loli13

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It's not "Milking" it is "Blue Balling". Too many people confuse these two words.

Blue Balling = Long build up, lots of teasing, no or low on hardcore sex.

Milking = Lying, not working on it and not pausing patreon, over promising and under delivering, ect

The amount of hardcore sexual content in a game has no effect on if a game is milking or not. Milking is about dishonest business practices, and blue balling is about making it seem like sex is about to happen but not fucking.
Thank you for your conclusion :cool:

I dervied the milking from Milking&Passion :geek:

Btw still hope it will be a great update with a lot of fabrictouching/handbags/stockings and birds :D
 

McZoy

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It's not "Milking" it is "Blue Balling". Too many people confuse these two words.

Blue Balling = Long build up, lots of teasing, no or low on hardcore sex.

Milking = Lying, not working on it and not pausing patreon, over promising and under delivering, ect

The amount of hardcore sexual content in a game has no effect on if a game is milking or not. Milking is about dishonest business practices, and blue balling is about making it seem like sex is about to happen but not fucking.
IMO we are facing a combination of the mentioned situations :cool::cool:
 
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Sadowdark

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So before the thread gets hold hostage of the "when update?" "why not update?" "what addon?" "any hero?" "when next update" (if it is not already the case) let's make a little recap of what's to come in the update.

Development

This is gonna be the Chapter 2 of AWAM, meaning we won't get the previous events released with this one and a new automatic(?) update system is put in place to download only the new content, at least for the patrons. We won't see this in action before 0.160. It's not clear if this is related to the mysterious "add-on" that has been delayed the release, that should be more something related to the game itself.

There will be probably a patch to download and install in the old 0.150 that enables to save all your choices and load them in the new version as explained here.

Content

4th Task during the literature lesson
View attachment 1670134 . View attachment 1670137
Sophia has to dress in a "lascivious business style with sexy stockings" as per Aiden order in the previous Nathalie's event.
From the first teaser we know that "She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work." (patreon post)
She is wearing a bra contrary to Aiden requests, so it is to see if she will remove it just before class or she will e.g. decide to try to bargain with Aiden.
In any case from the second teaser we know she is not wearing it, so it will be interesting to see at which point she will need to take it off, how and where.

Now, the common speculations is that the task will play along the lines of the first 2 at different extents and seemingly in a more daring challenge to embarrass Sophia in front of the class. More than that, including explicit nudity or sex acts in front of the whole class, is highly improbable and most likely not in the spirit of the story (at least so far).

The second teaser obviously made speculations go wild. What is she doing in that squatting position in the classroom? Is she still wearing panties (it seems so) or is she removing them? Can the other students (Evelyn) see that? Is it really part of the task? Are all the students still actually in the classroom or e.g. is that happening during the break with only Aiden and possibly Andre? (and Jennifer)? Or is it just some red herring to mislead us as usual?

Another interesting aspect, beside the nature of the task itself, would be to see if the 3 possible endings[1] for the previous 3rd tasks will somehow affect this event. Whether it will be just a matter of slight changes of the dialogues or some actions will be different. **For example** whether Sophia went through all the groping with Ares **could** be tied to the following bonus event?


Bonus event
View attachment 1670139 View attachment 1670142 . View attachment 1670141
We have been given 3 teasers for the bonus event. All we know is that Sophia is watching something happening in the corridor (1st teaser), probably Aiden, Andre and Jennifer furtively entering an empty classroom (2nd pixelated teaser) and once inside everything is set to make believe that Jennifer is putting up a show for Aiden and Jennifer (3rd teaser).
Now, so many questions here! First, why the pixelated teaser?? What's hiding behind the pixelated cloud? After the 3rd teaser it might seem obvious that they are Andre and Jennifer. But why then covering them? Could it be Sophia instead? Or is it hiding the fact that the 2 students are signalling Sophia to join them?
Is Sophia going to peep on them from the glass of the door? Or is she even inside the room with them? And why? And, above all, where is her purse??? :D
Are they now involving Sophia in a recurrent routine they had? In any case, will there be the inevitable, usual interruption, like someone walk on them (like in the alternate teasers by eastdot. )?

L&P has said that this update will be "hot af" and that the new feature/addon will play a fundamental role for better experiencing the scene, hence the delayed release. Most of us agree that it cannot be anything else that animation, given the various hints (e.g. converting the asset for Blender). There could be also sound involved and someone I think went as far as proposing a full navigable 3D environment... Probably too much?!! :)

Sure thing the update has been hyped a lot, already when it comes to Aiden's tasks there are always a lot of expectations and curiosity, now with all the mysterious teasers and the new "feature" they are at a new high.


Don Morello - quid pro quo?
View attachment 1670144
This is supposedly a very short scene in which Sophia will ask for help to deal with Aiden, but with a potential big turn in the whole story.
From how the things are at the moment it seems that it will only happen if Sophia made Larry particularly happy showing at least her breasts. That's the condition for her to think about asking for help right after the call during Nathalie event.
And it is to see if Sophia has the choice to go to Morello refusing the 4th task or **after** the task, in a "enough is enough" moment.

It will be also interesting to see if she can ask for help even if she didn't go that far. If so, there could be a deal to be made with Morello, as it may have some conditions on his own. If Sophia made Larry very happy, Morello, beside scratching the whole debt, is even feeling in debt with her, so he **could** do it for "free". In all the other conditions, if it were to be the case, there could be some strings attached. Which, obviously, is going to open new interesting developments in the story.

Unrelated to this release but more for the story down the road, it will be interesting if Bennet is mentioned at all in this update as we know that Morello can be a solution for him as well. But only for either of the 2 of them. Probably Aiden has the "priority" and if you choose to stay on Aiden's path will you get the option later? Or, like, there will be a quick and surprising appearance of Bennet that instills the dilemma on which one of the two use Morello's card?


As usual all the information about this update and the next events are available here thanks to the hard and strenuous work of Apollodore (even from his mountain retreat! ;) ).



[1] Once she accepts to meet with Aiden, the task is automatically fulfilled.
On the other hand depending on the choices during the art class there are 3 different paths:
1) she refuses to dress as Aphrodite, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and no Ares/Aiden at all.
2) if she stop Ares from groping her, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and Aiden won't reveal Ares was him.
3) if she has wine and allows Ares, she will look at the paintings at the end and Aiden reveals he was Ares.
You could also add that Sophia has partially completed Aiden's fourth task.
Maybe Sophia is behind the desk and Aiden told her to take off her bra. When everyone is in class


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neronxx

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So before the thread gets hold hostage of the "when update?" "why not update?" "what addon?" "any hero?" "when next update" (if it is not already the case) let's make a little recap of what's to come in the update.

Development

This is gonna be the Chapter 2 of AWAM, meaning we won't get the previous events released with this one and a new automatic(?) update system is put in place to download only the new content, at least for the patrons. We won't see this in action before 0.160. It's not clear if this is related to the mysterious "add-on" that has been delayed the release, that should be more something related to the game itself.

There will be probably a patch to download and install in the old 0.150 that enables to save all your choices and load them in the new version as explained here.

Content

4th Task during the literature lesson
View attachment 1670134 . View attachment 1670137
Sophia has to dress in a "lascivious business style with sexy stockings" as per Aiden order in the previous Nathalie's event.
From the first teaser we know that "She also won't go exactly like this "revealing" above to work." (patreon post)
She is wearing a bra contrary to Aiden requests, so it is to see if she will remove it just before class or she will e.g. decide to try to bargain with Aiden.
In any case from the second teaser we know she is not wearing it, so it will be interesting to see at which point she will need to take it off, how and where.

Now, the common speculations is that the task will play along the lines of the first 2 at different extents and seemingly in a more daring challenge to embarrass Sophia in front of the class. More than that, including explicit nudity or sex acts in front of the whole class, is highly improbable and most likely not in the spirit of the story (at least so far).

The second teaser obviously made speculations go wild. What is she doing in that squatting position in the classroom? Is she still wearing panties (it seems so) or is she removing them? Can the other students (Evelyn) see that? Is it really part of the task? Are all the students still actually in the classroom or e.g. is that happening during the break with only Aiden and possibly Andre? (and Jennifer)? Or is it just some red herring to mislead us as usual?

Another interesting aspect, beside the nature of the task itself, would be to see if the 3 possible endings[1] for the previous 3rd tasks will somehow affect this event. Whether it will be just a matter of slight changes of the dialogues or some actions will be different. **For example** whether Sophia went through all the groping with Ares **could** be tied to the following bonus event?


Bonus event
View attachment 1670139 View attachment 1670142 . View attachment 1670141
We have been given 3 teasers for the bonus event. All we know is that Sophia is watching something happening in the corridor (1st teaser), probably Aiden, Andre and Jennifer furtively entering an empty classroom (2nd pixelated teaser) and once inside everything is set to make believe that Jennifer is putting up a show for Aiden and Jennifer (3rd teaser).
Now, so many questions here! First, why the pixelated teaser?? What's hiding behind the pixelated cloud? After the 3rd teaser it might seem obvious that they are Andre and Jennifer. But why then covering them? Could it be Sophia instead? Or is it hiding the fact that the 2 students are signalling Sophia to join them?
Is Sophia going to peep on them from the glass of the door? Or is she even inside the room with them? And why? And, above all, where is her purse??? :D
Are they now involving Sophia in a recurrent routine they had? In any case, will there be the inevitable, usual interruption, like someone walking on them (like in the alternate teasers by eastdot. )?

L&P has said that this update will be "hot af" and that the new feature/addon will play a fundamental role for better experiencing the scene, hence the delayed release. Most of us agree that it cannot be anything else than animation, given the various hints (e.g. converting the asset for Blender). There could be also sound involved and someone I think went as far as proposing a full navigable 3D environment... Probably too much?!! :)

Sure thing the update has been hyped a lot, already when it comes to Aiden's tasks there are always a lot of expectations and curiosity, now with all the mysterious teasers and the new "feature" they are at a new high.


Don Morello - quid pro quo?
View attachment 1670144
This is supposedly a very short scene in which Sophia will ask for help to deal with Aiden, but with a potential big turn in the whole story.
From how the things are at the moment it seems that it will only happen if Sophia made Larry particularly happy showing at least her breasts. That's the condition for her to think about asking for help right after the call during Nathalie event.
And it is to see if Sophia has the choice to go to Morello refusing the 4th task or **after** the task, in a "enough is enough" moment.

It will be also interesting to see if she can ask for help even if she didn't go that far. If so, there could be a deal to be made with Morello, as it may have some conditions on his own. If Sophia made Larry very happy, Morello, beside scratching the whole debt, is even feeling in debt with her, so he **could** do it for "free". In all the other conditions, if it were to be the case, there could be some strings attached. Which, obviously, is going to open new interesting developments in the story.

Unrelated to this release but more for the story down the road, it will be interesting if Bennet is mentioned at all in this update as we know that Morello can be a solution for him as well. But only for either of the 2 of them. Probably Aiden has the "priority" and if you choose to stay on Aiden's path will you get the option later? Or, like, there will be a quick and surprising appearance of Bennet that instills the dilemma on which one of the two use Morello's card?


As usual all the information about this update and the next events are available here thanks to the hard and strenuous work of Apollodore (even from his mountain retreat! ;) ).



[1] Once she accepts to meet with Aiden, the task is automatically fulfilled.
On the other hand depending on the choices during the art class there are 3 different paths:
1) she refuses to dress as Aphrodite, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and no Ares/Aiden at all.
2) if she stop Ares from groping her, there will be small talk with students at the end but not showing of the paintings and Aiden won't reveal Ares was him.
3) if she has wine and allows Ares, she will look at the paintings at the end and Aiden reveals he was Ares.

What is the meaning of the "hot af"?
What words does the "af" stand for?
 

dolfe67

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First, why the pixelated teaser?? What's hiding behind the pixelated cloud? After the 3rd teaser it might seem obvious that they are Andre and Jennifer. But why then covering them? Could it be Sophia instead? Or is it hiding the fact that the 2 students are signalling Sophia to join them?
I think he wanted to hide who were with Aiden but following patron's dissatisfaction he released another teaser to show them instead of the same one uncensored, no other meaning
 

naughtynafz

Creating "Aiden's Revenge"
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Yes, Part 2 is a new download to reduce the current file size of Part 1. Part 1 is 6+ GB. However, there will be a feature to move your save files over so you can keep the points you have accumulated from Part 1.
i hate detaching games... everytime i have to play through a new path and move the save file to play next phases
 
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yihman1

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i hate detaching games... everytime i have to play through a new path and move the save file to play next phases
Well... games get to a certain size and they new game. It slows game down, and the the download if things get too big.

There are of course solutions for this so you can use old saves, or start new on part 2 and probably ask a few questions to get on the save route you were looking for.
 

Old Dog

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Well... games get to a certain size and they new game. It slows game down, and the the download if things get too big.

There are of course solutions for this so you can use old saves, or start new on part 2 and probably ask a few questions to get on the save route you were looking for.
Your saves are stored in a different location and not just in the in game save folder.
My computer/AppData/Roaming/RenPy/AWifeAndMother
 

Losersriot

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Why can't L&P create a script that would allow you to simply add a folder with updated content to the game? This is a problem for an 8th grade student.
 
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