Sabertooth__

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That is the most pathetic message I've seen from you and it really shows your pettiness.

Why would I stop the funding for development of a game that I like and take someone's livelihood away just because I don't agree with the way it's being developed?
You realize that that game is absolutely breaking a ton of Patreon rules ? And that all it takes is some well written report for patreon to shut it down which is something we shouldnt even discuss here before some smooth brain gets any ideas?
Exactly, attacking someone for years on end just because you don't agree with the way it is developed is also not Rational. A normal human being stops after a while.

This is not the first time you have lifted the possibility of the game being stopped and it pisses me off a lot too. I too have raed the guidelines. The chances of that are low even if the whole thing is reported. Hence why i even screenshoted those guidelines and patreons thought process.

Also you just ignored the whole issue where your rational made no sense. You like the game but i literally spelled all the things you say about the game on this thread and none of it adds to you liking the game so much that you will spend years attacking the dev for it.
 

Kristof29

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You guys know that once the animations for .155 are completed the next reason to delay the update would be that he is going to release .160 so that there can be a substantial release, but .160 needs a few more animations (50?) to complete so it will be delayed a few more weeks ( that will add up to months).

I left this thread last year. Seems there is even more drama this year.

I can understand why the dev focuses so much on quality because that is the only thing he really has going for him. If he drops that he loses the rest of his patreon subs.
 
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ashitanojoe

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Maybe the forum page isn't displaying well for you but in my answer I even put in bold the " you get upset because he has patrons ".

What's the opposite of having patrons? Not having patrons.
Was this an hyperbole too? So you doubled down on it? Seriously it's like I'm discussing things with my 10 year old niece, it's pathetic.
Because I can use that argument also: All I've said so far it's an hyperbole, the development pace isn't bad, it's only a little little bit bad. See how easy that is?
No, that's not how an hyperbole works. You can write an hyperbole and the people can identify it as such, without having to explain it later. If I had to say that it was an hyperbole, it was because you took it literally, which it was not my fault but yours.

Look, my paragraph was:

"What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster. "

To me, and I believe for the most of the people, it's pretty evident that I don't think that you can believe that a game like this one could have 0 patrons. That expression is obviously an exaggeration. That's why that later I told you that his numbers are already low compared to its popularity.

The "0 patrons" expression was used in a way to say you something like: "Hey, his numbers are already low (considering its popularity), what do you pretend? to be even lower?"

And then I put the examples of the most popular devs in this site to expose my argument.

You are accusing me of being childish, when in my first response in any moment I insulted you. Then, you used the: "Are you a child? How old are you?" expression, which in my terms is very childish and disrespectful, instead of responding with arguments, like an educated grown up person would do.
 

Alley_Cat

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You guys know that once the animations for .155 are completed the next reason to delay the update would be that he is going to release .160 so that there can be a substantial release, but .160 needs a few more animations (50?) to complete so it will be delayed a few more weeks ( that will add up to months).

I left this thread last year. Seems there is even more drama this year.

I can understand why the dev focuses so much on quality because that is the only thing he really has going for him. If he drops that he loses the rest of his patreon subs.
L&P has already said .160 wont have animations, so I don't think animations will be a reason for delays.
 

Yamakasi20

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Honestly, more than devs/programmers/animators, L&P needs a PR.
Would do wonders for him and probably double his income.

Just my 2 cents.
 

JorellMartis

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LOL unknowingness at its best again in this troll contaminated forum! I checked these animations just for fun from the latest update and explain you how things really are my friend.

These are 1-2 sec loop animations done with Daz Studio! And not that they're not 60 fps! I hardly believe that this is even 20 fps! It's totally easy quick back and forth movements without any realistic body effects or anything extraordinary at all! Plus there are no volumetrics or any other effects used!

So, 1-2 days for 60 fps animations? OK, then let's talk about the real deal comparing to my scenes and upcoming animations. You got 10 seconds animations with volumetrics and blooming effects. And you don't use amateur programs for the animation like Daz Studio but Blender. And here you use Cycles for rendering. So, please render a 10 seconds long animation with 60 fps, volumetric effects in Blender using Cycles with even two 3090 RTX, at least 10k samples per frame, with denoiser (lower than 10k samples would usually give aweful results) and look how far you will get in 1-2 days LOL! Have fun!
And it's not just the rendering per se which comes only at the very end, it's the freaking hard creation of a realistic and detailed animation!

But main thing, first just talking bullshit again with zero knowledge of the stuff, right?
But I keep quiet. Sooner or later everyone will form his own opinion on my upcoming and future animations;)
Then he should settle this argument by sending us about 4 new teasers today of the previous update
 

Arr0gant

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unfortunately they haven't created enough of them all that time
Υou are sarcastic i get it. Actually there're tons of those in the past 2-3 years but very few are actually above average. Most of them don't know how to balance teasing and fucking, so in the end most of them are kinda brainless sex scenes. I like it when the Creator "fucks" my mind first. That's why i like AWAM. So i'm curious if there are any more of these worth playing.
 

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

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No, that's not how an hyperbole works. You can write an hyperbole and the people can identify it as such, without having to explain it later. If I had to say that it was an hyperbole, it was because you took it literally, which it was not my fault but yours.

Look, my paragraph was:

"What do you mean by patrons are starting to speak up? You were a patron as many others and you have been speaking since a long time ago. What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons? His numbers are actually low considering the popularity of the game, precisely because many people as you and me think he should develop his game faster. "

To me, and I believe for the most of the people, it's pretty evident that I don't think that you can believe that a game like this one could have 0 patrons. That expression is obviously an exaggeration. That's why that later I told you that his numbers are already low compared to its popularity.

The "0 patrons" expression was used in a way to say you something like: "Hey, his numbers are already low (considering its popularity), what do you pretend? to be even lower?"

And then I put the examples of the most popular devs in this site to expose my argument.

You are accusing me of being childish, when in my first response in any moment I insulted you. Then, you used the: "Are you a child? How old are you?" expression, which in my terms is very childish and disrespectful, instead of responding with arguments, like an educated grown up person would do.
I said that patrons are finally speaking ("speaking up") about these constant delays on his patron and you come back at me saying I wish he had less patrons. That doesn't make any sense.

Hyperbole is valid in a discussion where your whole argument isn't based on it. In this case it is. It's a fallacious argument because you can't just assume something I'm thinking, act like it's the truth and start a discussion from there.

I didn't bring his popularity vs other patrons to the table (you did), I said some of his patrons are speaking about the delays, that was it. Your response: "What do you suggest? That he should have 0 patrons?"

How you could come up with this conclusion, hyperbole or not, after what I said, is beyond me.

And then after I explain this to you: whats your answer? "Lets double down":


" you get upset because he has patrons "
Again, the same argument now with no hyperbole, which had nothing to do with what I said. So either stick to the point (there are people complaining on his patron) and we can discuss or just ramble around with that fantasy that I wish he had 0 patrons. If it's the second, don't bother quoting, It's a discussion I'm not willing to partake.

As for my expression: it was an hyperbole.
 

Jude6

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Does anyone else question why L&P chose to mark this (pending) update as Version 0-155 instead of Version 0-151...?
(rhetorical question)

It wouldn't be perfect, because days with over 9 events (like the current day) would bump up into the second decimal place without ending the day - but it would avoid the version numbers spiralling up into the 0-1000's by game's end.
Just seems less messy

I know, porn game developers aren't coders, so actual iterative version numbers aren't something you should realistically hold them too... but still.
Also yes, I know the game will never actually reach those late stages... but stiiill.
 

AlfredBundy4

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So apparently patrons are starting to speak up.

One of L&P's answers was:




This tells you what you need to know about his mindset. How can he fail to launch what was supposed to be the quickest update so far, takes 2 more months to do it, doesn't even update, and then has the sass to even hint that he should take a month vacation lmaooo.
He thinks he's being such a great developer, this is comical.
The genuine shame is that he knows he can do it and his diehards - those essentially held hostage for a sexual release they'll never get - will support him for fear that he'll quit. No matter what he does or says.

They are all the guy in 'Idiocracy' that keeps paying for the prostitute that tells him she'll have sex with him tomorrow.
They're all this guy:

 

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

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Exactly, attacking someone for years on end just because you don't agree with the way it is developed is also not Rational. A normal human being stops after a while.

This is not the first time you have lifted the possibility of the game being stopped and it pisses me off a lot too. I too have raed the guidelines. The chances of that are low even if the whole thing is reported. Hence why i even screenshoted those guidelines and patreons thought process.

Also you just ignored the whole issue where your rational made no sense. You like the game but i literally spelled all the things you say about the game on this thread and none of it adds to you liking the game so much that you will spend years attacking the dev for it.
No you did not. You've said multiple stuff in this thread that isn't the truth. It's your version of what people said. That is why quoting people is the best way to do this. So either quote it and then we can have a discussion or don't and there's nothing to discuss.

Just because people say Game A is a better game than GameB doesn't mean they dont like GameB but your take is that people only like GameA and think GameB is shit like it's impossible to like both games.
I've said it plenty of times what I like about AWAM and what I don't like. Only ill will makes you lump me into the group that doesn't like the vn.

Last thing, I don't attack the dev, but I never see you so eager to defend people when he or his people come here to attack people (and he was he first one to do it years ago.).

edit: the chances of the patreon thing happening are as low as the chances of him pissing of some idiot (so, high) because there's so many things he's breaching that every single one of them is suspend/ban material per patron guidelines.
Im not lifting the possibility as some sort of sadistic threat, but it is indeed a possibility and something he should have prepared for (by moving to SS) as soon as possible.
 
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