Sabertooth__

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Amber Dylan event may be Hot af, but still dont understand how its fit in the game. the game (as the title suggests) should be all about Sophia and Sophia only. Dylan's storyline should be sidetracked in a different spinoff game, or only should be happen if Sophia is present there or at least if one of the character involved (either dylan or amber) tell her what happened in the flashback. The op should change the female protagonist tag to multiple protagonist, if these keep happens
If you are writing a good story, multiple characters need to be explored and given screentime. If you have 10 characters and we know only about the lead and nothing about the rest they will be forgetten, a proper and well rounded story gives every character something to be remembered by or for.

Also this is done so that the audience doesn't get bored following the same person. Too much screentime with the main lead will cause a decline in her popularity. There is a saturation point. A video i watched long time back of a reviewer as he termed this as franchise fatigue. People get tired of the same thing. Even if your favourite food is given to you everyday you will eventually not like it. There has to be a break.

Similiarly in storytelling this gives the audience a breather from the main protagonist and also an opportunity to flesh out other characters. All series or shows, books, basically any form of long and well written stories do that.
 
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PietruccioTheHilander

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Amber welcomes Dylan, dressed in a chef's apron. Sam and Neil went out to do some shopping. She invites Dylan to wait inside for his buddy.

Depending on if the "chicken fight" happened on day 17 (and its outcome), this scene will have different unfoldings.

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oh, what a coincidence, sam and neil are not there ...
 
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Dan5k74

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Amber Dylan event may be Hot af, but still dont understand how its fit in the game. the game (as the title suggests) should be all about Sophia and Sophia only. Dylan's storyline should be sidetracked in a different spinoff game, or only should be happen if Sophia is present there or at least if one of the character involved (either dylan or amber) tell her what happened in the flashback. The op should change the female protagonist tag to multiple protagonist, if these keep happens
In my opinion, this is all part of L&P's pairing plan for the characters in his game and more specifically their eventual availability as Sophia's LI.
So, for example, according to this hypothetical plan:
- if Dylan got a girlfriend his own age (Emma or Christine) or a (Amber) he might no longer be available for Sophia,
- if Ellie left Logan she might become Sam's girlfriend. So Sam may no longer be available for Sophia.
In order to continue these paths, L&P can only defer to the players' choices and then asks them to briefly play the role of characters (Dylan and Ellie) who are not Sophia.
At the moment I don't know what these choices might entail in terms of closing the various game paths, but I think sooner or later we will have to make some hard choices.
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looks like no mom and son event this time. Thought there'd be some interactions between Mother and Son after that boarding school time away!
 

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if Ellie left Logan she might become Sam's girlfriend. So Sam may no longer be available for Sophia.
In order to continue these paths, L&P can only defer to the players' choices and then asks them to briefly play the role of characters (Dylan and Ellie) who are not Sophia.
At the moment I don't know what these choices might entail in terms of closing the various game paths, but I think sooner or later we will have to make some hard choices
you forget Julia and maybe that Guy ellie mention in the shower the basketball player.
 

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If you are writing a good story, multiple characters need to be explored and given screentime. If you have 10 characters and we know only about the lead and nothing about the rest they will be forgetten, a proper and well rounded story gives every character something to be remembered by or for.

Also this is done so that the audience doesn't get bored following the same person. Too much screentime with the main lead will cause a decline in her popularity. There is a saturation point. A video i watched long time back of a reviewer as he termed this as franchise fatigue. People get tired of the same thing. Even if your favourite food is given to you everyday you will eventually not like it. There has to be a break.

Similiarly in storytelling this gives the audience a breather from the main protagonist and also an opportunity to flesh out other characters. All series or shows, books, basically any form of long and well written stories do that.
I disagree. It may be true for movies or passive media, but not for video games. I wasn't tired of Shepard in Mass Effect or of Lara Croft in Tomb Raider. Characters can be explored and given screentime with the MC. I don't think it's the cause of a saturation point, people lose interest with time
 

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I thank the author for the game.
I would like to give advice that will speed up development a bit and enrich the game with an additional direction. I advise you to add Sophia's reflections on the events that have occurred, which will show the change in her psychological attitude towards the sexual sphere. Drawing this is quite simple, since it will be 1-2 locations in which Sophia will be shown from 2-3 angles. And at the same time, the events with Sophia will not just happen "suddenly", but will show her awakened personal interest in further sexual activities. And the beginning of this was already laid when she watched porn on TV in the evening. You can continue this idea, revealing in these reflections her current desires.
 

Koiaj

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Hello guys, I have a problem with this game :\

After Aiden task, on day 20, sophie could accept to tease students opening her shirt and lifting her skirt, she slaps the other student for touching her ass, than she goes back to see Dylan's game, all ok for now.
Than, the story goes automatically back to broke shower event and all story re-begins from that point, what's happening? :|
 

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I disagree. It may be true for movies or passive media, but not for video games. I wasn't tired of Shepard in Mass Effect or of Lara Croft in Tomb Raider. Characters can be explored and given screentime with the MC. I don't think it's the cause of a saturation point, people lose interest with time
This isn't a video game. This is a Visual Novel. This is just a story being told and what i said applies to any proper long story. Short stories can't afford this. In your perspective maybe no one but the main character matters but it is a widely accepted and praised method of storytelling to give screentime away from the MC as well. Another popular point followed is to have calm moments or episodes after a few big and thrilling episodes, this is done to relax the audience and setup up for the next big moment later on. These are just storytelling conventions. Letting us understand and see other characters and then when they come back in a later scene with the MC or against the MC we can understand their perspective, motivations and relate to why they are saying or doing what they are.
 
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Bibifoc

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Hello guys, I have a problem with this game :\

After Aiden task, on day 20, sophie could accept to tease students opening her shirt and lifting her skirt, she slaps the other student for touching her ass, than she goes back to see Dylan's game, all ok for now.
Than, the story goes automatically back to broke shower event and all story re-begins from that point, what's happening? :|
Post a save before the story loops.
 

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Or Amber is wearing a top and shorts ?
Pouring cold water on mu hopes and dreams!!

Sure - yes you could be right. But it would be nice if L&P could give us a hot sexual scene between those two, as might be easier to accelerate their progress whilst Sophia is a couple of days away in game from sexual scenes.
 
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