PaxHadrian17

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I don't disagree. And I have no quarrel with people who lose interest or otherwise find the pace frustrating, due to the slow progress. What drives me nuts is when people are getting something for free here but still act like L&P is ripping them off. If supporters on Patreon complain about the pace or other issues, that's the place for it. People can certainly come here and express their disappointment, frustration, etc., but when page after page is just anger and complaining, it undermines the community and makes this a really shitty thread to visit. I wish the game would move faster but in the meantime, there are plenty of other games out there.
I am a former Patreon and then SS supporter.

I just got tired of his lies - over promise and underdeliver.

I tried to have these kind of discussions while I was a supporter (along with other Patreons) but we were systematically ignored and a number of our posts were outright deleted.

He wields a heavy hand for those who are not his lemmings and praise him for sliding down the slope of diminishing returns.

I continue to praise most of his individual releases but point out that these are no longer cohesive parts of the AWAM story, just vignettes in the AWAM universe, where we are Very unlikely to ever see PD 30 content.

Do you know how many times L&P has promised his supporters that he would build a team when X or Y or Z happened? Did you notice that, once those milestones were reached, L&P became Lots of Possible excuses for why there was no team?

He does not owe me anything.

I tend to maintain a sense of loyalty to creators who are, I feel, giving it their best and HONEST with me.

I am no longer a supporter or willing to make excuses for him because L&P no longer meets either of those criteria.
 

TomUK

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I am a former Patreon and then SS supporter.

I just got tired of his lies - over promise and underdeliver.

I tried to have these kind of discussions while I was a supporter (along with other Patreons) but we were systematically ignored and a number of our posts were outright deleted.

He wields a heavy hand for those who are not his lemmings and praise him for sliding down the slope of diminishing returns.

I continue to praise most of his individual releases but point out that these are no longer cohesive parts of the AWAM story, just vignettes in the AWAM universe, where we are Very unlikely to ever see PD 30 content.

Do you know how many times L&P has promised his supporters that he would build a team when X or Y or Z happened? Did you notice that, once those milestones were reached, L&P became Lots of Possible excuses for why there was no team?

He does not owe me anything.

I tend to maintain a sense of loyalty to creators who are, I feel, giving it their best and HONEST with me.

I am no longer a supporter or willing to make excuses for him because L&P no longer meets either of those criteria.
So like I and others have said before, go moan on those forums. If you tried like you said and felt ignored you sound more like you want attention, which I'm now at fault for giving you more. You've made yourself heard on forums where you paid for the game by stopping your support of it, but here you are still complaining to others who don't pay for the game.

It's their game and they can make it how they like, you have already done your part in showing your dislike of the devs decisions by stopping your subscription, moaning on a pirate website isn't going to change anything except to just piss off people with your incessant whinging about it.
 

tofhdns

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So like I and others have said before, go moan on those forums. If you tried like you said and felt ignored you sound more like you want attention, which I'm now at fault for giving you more. You've made yourself heard on forums where you paid for the game by stopping your support of it, but here you are still complaining to others who don't pay for the game.

It's their game and they can make it how they like, you have already done your part in showing your dislike of the devs decisions by stopping your subscription, moaning on a pirate website isn't going to change anything except to just piss off people with your incessant whinging about it.
I can speak the way you speak.

If you are a follower of LP, prove it by sponsoring.
And leave this forum LP doesn't visit, and stay on the Patreon page.

This is not just a space for sponsors or supporters.

this is where you should be


If you're a sponsor, there's no reason to fight anyone here, and if you're not a sponsor, you're lying to yourself.
 

Lupercalia

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hmmmm... so l&p promised to hire a team? :unsure: I've been following this game for less than a year so I don't know much about the developer
 
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TomUK

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I can speak the way you speak.

If you are a follower of LP, prove it by sponsoring.
And leave this forum LP doesn't visit, and stay on the Patreon page.

This is not just a space for sponsors or supporters.

this is where you should be


If you're a sponsor, there's no reason to fight anyone here, and if you're not a sponsor, you're lying to yourself.
You're not speaking the way I speak because I'm not crying about the game and believe me or not, if I was a sponsor I would be using the forum I would be supporting instead of listening to cry-babies who are complaining about the game on a pirate site.
 

tofhdns

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You're not speaking the way I speak because I'm not crying about the game and believe me or not, if I was a sponsor I would be using the forum I would be supporting instead of listening to cry-babies who are complaining about the game on a pirate site.
You told the person who sponsored the game then stopped, don't complain and leave.

After seeing that, I told you, if you're a sponsor, you can go to Patreon and make a lot of noise.

Again, if you're a follower of LP, you can sponsor him and head over to Patreon.

Your paradise is not here and this is not just a space for sponsors and supporters.

Sponsor him and sing a serenade for him there.
 

L0b0ts

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You're not speaking the way I speak because I'm not crying about the game and believe me or not, if I was a sponsor I would be using the forum I would be supporting instead of listening to cry-babies who are complaining about the game on a pirate site.
So you aren't even a patreon, ahh, except I use to be a Patreon for L&P, your just like everyone else, ba ha ha
 

TomUK

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So you aren't even a patreon, ahh, except I use to be a Patreon for L&P, your just like everyone else, ba ha ha
Like I said, you done the appropriate thing for you in stopping your subscription for the game and yet you decide to come on a pirate site and complain.
 

karleston

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You're not speaking the way I speak because I'm not crying about the game and believe me or not, if I was a sponsor I would be using the forum I would be supporting instead of listening to cry-babies who are complaining about the game on a pirate site.
you are most likely wasting your time my friend, these people especially the one you've been answering to, is far from being smart (we are talking light years). and i am trying to be nice . Just look at the guy, he gave AWAM a 1 star rating stating that it is the worst game ever and still the only game he has on his signature is AWAM :KEK:. And spends his days talking sh*t about it on this forum.

Are you really trying to have a conversation with this guy ?!! I think you need to draw simple shapes for that so he can understand :KEK:

Now i just don't bother because they don't deserve an answer. You should do the same
 

tofhdns

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Like I said, you done the appropriate thing for you in stopping your subscription for the game and yet you decide to come on a pirate site and complain.
Don't stress out here, go to Patreon.
Are you unwilling to sponsor LP?
 

tofhdns

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you are most likely wasting your time my friend, these people especially the one you've been answering to, is far from being smart (we are talking light years). and i am trying to be nice . Just look at the guy, he gave AWAM a 1 star rating stating that it is the worst game ever and still the only game he has on his signature is AWAM :KEK:. And spends his days talking sh*t about it on this forum.

Are you really trying to have a conversation with this guy ?!! I think you need to draw simple shapes for that so he can understand :KEK:

Now i just don't bother because they don't deserve an answer. You should do the same
When you say you were trying to be nice, I just laugh.

I want to say the same to you.

Sponsor for him.
And go to the cozy Patreon.
 
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TomUK

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You told the person who sponsored the game then stopped, don't complain and leave.

After seeing that, I told you, if you're a sponsor, you can go to Patreon and make a lot of noise.

Again, if you're a follower of LP, you can sponsor him and head over to Patreon.

Your paradise is not here and this is not just a space for sponsors and supporters.

Sponsor him and sing a serenade for him there.
I'm not sponsoring him and I'm not serenading him, I don't think I've praised him at all on this forum, but then I guessing if I complain about you complaining about the dev of a game that doesn't even come to this forum, then I must be sucking his cock.

I'm on this forum to find and play porn games, if I like the concept of a game then I will play it, I play it with the understanding that I have no say in the development of the game, if want a say I will subscribe to his pay forums. But I'm quite quite happy to play for free until I get fed up with the game or direction it is going in and then I will just move on. I follow this thread because I want to know about the game when the next update will be. I don't follow it to hear the same people constantly moan and complain about it, through your own actions you are now like me, someone who plays a porn game for free understanding that is a project and not a complete game so things can change and do change, some changes annoy me as well, that is usually the only time I'll gripe, but then I try to find why I can't play a certain update and try to find a workaround.

Basically if you have a problem with the dev then subscribe to a forum he actually follows so he can ignore you there instead of coming here, just don't play his game, if he releases the game on steam go there and complain, instead of us having to hear this same shit every day.
 

kewlbigdan

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I'm not sponsoring him and I'm not serenading him, I don't think I've praised him at all on this forum, but then I guessing if I complain about you complaining about the dev of a game that doesn't even come to this forum, then I must be sucking his cock.

I'm on this forum to find and play porn games, if I like the concept of a game then I will play it, I play it with the understanding that I have no say in the development of the game, if want a say I will subscribe to his pay forums. But I'm quite quite happy to play for free until I get fed up with the game or direction it is going in and then I will just move on. I follow this thread because I want to know about the game when the next update will be. I don't follow it to hear the same people constantly moan and complain about it, through your own actions you are now like me, someone who plays a porn game for free understanding that is a project and not a complete game so things can change and do change, some changes annoy me as well, that is usually the only time I'll gripe, but then I try to find why I can't play a certain update and try to find a workaround.

Basically if you have a problem with the dev then subscribe to a forum he actually follows so he can ignore you there instead of coming here, just don't play his game, if he releases the game on steam go there and complain, instead of us having to hear this same shit every day.
Ok...then dont read the forum everyday. Go read the LP safe_zone fan page. Why does he need to change his behaviour to fit your demands?
And not sure it was stated that only intellectual elites were allowed to post in this forum.
 
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tofhdns

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I'm not sponsoring him and I'm not serenading him, I don't think I've praised him at all on this forum, but then I guessing if I complain about you complaining about the dev of a game that doesn't even come to this forum, then I must be sucking his cock.

I'm on this forum to find and play porn games, if I like the concept of a game then I will play it, I play it with the understanding that I have no say in the development of the game, if want a say I will subscribe to his pay forums. But I'm quite quite happy to play for free until I get fed up with the game or direction it is going in and then I will just move on. I follow this thread because I want to know about the game when the next update will be. I don't follow it to hear the same people constantly moan and complain about it, through your own actions you are now like me, someone who plays a porn game for free understanding that is a project and not a complete game so things can change and do change, some changes annoy me as well, that is usually the only time I'll gripe, but then I try to find why I can't play a certain update and try to find a workaround.

Basically if you have a problem with the dev then subscribe to a forum he actually follows so he can ignore you there instead of coming here, just don't play his game, if he releases the game on steam go there and complain, instead of us having to hear this same shit every day.
You said you never sponsored this game.
You said you never praised this game.

Still, you said you hate the criticism and want to play it for free.

What you need to know is that the people writing the criticisms you're uncomfortable with are the ones who have been sponsoring the game for a while.

There is no reason to assume that your words are worth more than those of people who write critiques.

Also, you say "if you have any complaints, sponsor him."

Don't you think there is a contradiction?
 
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TomUK

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Ok...then dont read the forum everyday. Go read the LP safe_zone fan page. Why does he need to change his behaviour to fit your demands?
And not sure it was stated that only intellectual elites were allowed to post in this forum.
Guess that discounts you then.
 

TomUK

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You said you never sponsored this game.
You said you never praised this game.

Still, you said you hate the criticism and want to play it for free.

What you need to know is that the people writing the criticisms you're uncomfortable with are the ones who have been sponsoring the game for a while.

There is no reason to assume that your words are worth more than those of people who write critiques.

Also, you say "if you have any complaints, sponsor him."

Don't you think there is a contradiction?
Why is there a contradiction, you're complaining to people who have no say on the games development, yet you say you used to sponsor him, so all I am saying is go there and complain, it makes no point to complain here.
 
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