VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[tofhdns]

One of the reasons I really like about this game is, the devs DON'T ask me to write for them. Serious! Because if I did, then I know what would happen... I like this game because despite all the "little" things it's a good game. It's a roller coaster of good plot, bad plot, hits and misses.


Anyone ever watch, "Game of Thrones?" How many like seasons 1-3 better than the last seasons? I was lucky my favorite characters made it to the end... So come the end of this game, I will either be happy, or disappointed.

But in the end, like in "Game of Thrones," my input didn't matter-- my only vote I had been with my wallet, and in the grander scheme of things, it's a pretty poor bit of leverage. Because what will happen, will happen or so says the devs, polls be damn--LOL!

I'm not sure if I understood your post correctly.

If you want to say that it doesn't matter if the voting result doesn't affect the game, I'd say no.

Voting is a reward given to high-tier sponsors of £15 or more.

If voting results are not reflected in game development, there is no need to vote.

Because sponsors aren't voting to send Dylan to America's Got Talent.

 

[karleston]

It's fairly easy to tell when that point is: the release of the afternoon/evening update of PD11. This is when the story got thrown out the window and began the turn into your typical teen porn game. With the introduction of the Dylan/Marie path and Dylan's POV, this is where L&P doubles down on focusing on Dylan content. And focusing on Dylan content at the expense of other characters, even Sophia.
And just after the release of this update, he even backtracks on it, removing one of the events (the Twist) because it upset Dylan fans.

I think he deviated from the original plan due to financial motivations, i think he is using shota and incest content left and right for that same reason. He is adjusting the story to meet his clients expectations. He is making more money like that but he is also ruining the story.

 

[MrD812]

In any case, AWAM has to become more streamlined. There are just too many stories.

I wouldn't base the selection solely on the popularity of individual characters, but rather on which stories you really need to tell the story of Sophia as a wife and mother. Then characters like Liam or Amber are important, because they are strongly tied to the main story and give the game more depth.

However, characters that simply represent a certain kink, but otherwise have almost nothing to do with the main story, are unnecessary. Here I see especially the two sides jobs, Emma, the mafia story, Aiden, etc. etc.

Agreed, absolutely way to much unnecessary nonsense.
After doing test runs with um, think it's called Motel.. can't remember off hand.
Gave this a go and hung in there best i could, with all the crappy filler side-stories but......

Got to Aden, with that terrible hair and said.. oh HAIL NO!!
This is just, NO.. FAWK NO....DELETE!!

For those of You into this, hope the Dev hits it outta the Park for ya ALL.
Best Wishes

 

[tofhdns]

Life is change... change is life and people's minds can change. Or the plot forces a change in plans...even with Sam. If it was absolutely set in stone that Sam is "last" it would mean the following:

A) the devs are going to stop with Dylan and move on to ALL the other plots, subplots, or creating new ones. SO sometime right around this time of year in 2024, Sam & Dylan are up

B) the devs don't give any alone time with Sam and Sophia

C) When, where and why, Sophia is "passed around," the devs left open the pregnancy element. Remember Sophia and Liam still are using the condom and made it clear that once things get settled with work, having another kid is in the offering. So, by the setting in stone Sam is Last or among the last, the old men, the Myer's boys, the janitor, the mobster, or etc... etc... are going to get the job done before Sam gets a chance to unleash the tadpoles

D) Regardless of A, B, or C, there still is the "Good Wife" content to crank out. And recall Liam has also brought up wife sharing with the soon to be blushing bride and her to be husband--plots already part of the storyline that some don't care about and rather not take that path. That's what? Some 90days of programing and rendering?

E) Assume the devs wake up one morning, make a really good and strong cup of coffee and realize the issues of A, B, C, and D, they are going to see a MAJOR plausibility plot hole in their whole story. Because, unlike Sophia's other love interests, she actually has stronger feelings for Sam. So if the ending is where Sam and Sophia ride off into the sunset hand-in-hand, then the devs just laid a stinker of an egg.

I am critical of this developer.

But when I criticize a developer, I base my criticism on his words and the games he makes.

We never know if he will win the lottery, if he will change his development plan or if he will change his mind.

1. There is no evidence, and no reason, that a new plot will emerge after the Dylan story. till now.

2. So far neither Sophia nor Sam has any reason to involve anyone else in their relationship.

3. So far, only Liam, Dylan, Sam, and Natalie are likely to have sex with Sophia, and only Aiden's gang is likely to be added.

4. And I think the only story in this game without holes in plausibility is the story of Sam and Sophia.

 

[Talcum Powder]

It's fairly easy to tell when that point is: the release of the afternoon/evening update of PD11. This is when the story got thrown out the window and began the turn into your typical teen porn game. With the introduction of the Dylan/Marie path and Dylan's POV, this is where L&P doubles down on focusing on Dylan content. And focusing on Dylan content at the expense of other characters, even Sophia.
And just after the release of this update, he even backtracks on it, removing one of the events (the Twist) because it upset Dylan fans.

You are referring to the Dylan POV during the yoga event, I presume? I remember having some pretty strong thoughts on that particular piece of shit writing. Though I believe the first time the Dylan POV poked it's head up was the fixing Ellie's computer scene.
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From September 2020 (the good ol days?)
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Doing the whole yoga event from two perspectives was a childish hackneyed decision and a complete waste of your (and our) time. What on earth were you thinking? What is the rationale for changing the point of view?

From Sophia's point of view, I get dialogue and (some, but not much) development. The changing room, the yoga and the shower scenes were all high quality, erotic, and continue the slow-burn build up. Nice.

From Dylan's perspective, I learned that Dylan, an ['over 18 years old'] boy is horny as hell and gets a woody when fantastically attractive women put on skin tight clothing and gyrate and stick their asses up in the air. Since that's true of just about every boy his age, I didn't actually learn anything at all about him. To your credit, I did learn that side boob is good but man o man wouldn't full frontal be better. And spying in the shower? Come on, that is some weak, lame, cut-and-paste bullshit, a routine that has played out in cinema (not to mention a substantial percentage of adult VN games) hundreds of times dating back to at least the mid-1970's. At least in Revenge of the Nerds it was part of an actual revenge plot carried out by actual nerds.

Honestly, and I dare you to actually be honest: what the heck were you thinking when you decided that dross was worthy of your talent? You should be embarrassed that didn't get cut from the script before you even finished typing it out.

A Wife and Mother has so much going for it, but for the love of all that is good in the universe, and so we may continue to count A Wife and Mother among all that is good in the universe, learn to edit yourself.

 

[Alley_Cat]

You are referring to the Dylan POV during the yoga event, I presume? I remember having some pretty strong thoughts on that particular piece of shit writing. Though I believe the first time the Dylan POV poked it's head up was the fixing Ellie's computer scene.
--
From September 2020 (the good ol days?)
...
Doing the whole yoga event from two perspectives was a childish hackneyed decision and a complete waste of your (and our) time. What on earth were you thinking? What is the rationale for changing the point of view?

From Sophia's point of view, I get dialogue and (some, but not much) development. The changing room, the yoga and the shower scenes were all high quality, erotic, and continue the slow-burn build up. Nice.

From Dylan's perspective, I learned that Dylan, an ['over 18 years old'] boy is horny as hell and gets a woody when fantastically attractive women put on skin tight clothing and gyrate and stick their asses up in the air. Since that's true of just about every boy his age, I didn't actually learn anything at all about him. To your credit, I did learn that side boob is good but man o man wouldn't full frontal be better. And spying in the shower? Come on, that is some weak, lame, cut-and-paste bullshit, a routine that has played out in cinema (not to mention a substantial percentage of adult VN games) hundreds of times dating back to at least the mid-1970's. At least in Revenge of the Nerds it was part of an actual revenge plot carried out by actual nerds.

Honestly, and I dare you to actually be honest: what the heck were you thinking when you decided that dross was worthy of your talent? You should be embarrassed that didn't get cut from the script before you even finished typing it out.

A Wife and Mother has so much going for it, but for the love of all that is good in the universe, and so we may continue to count A Wife and Mother among all that is good in the universe, learn to edit yourself.

I was referring to the yoga event from Dylan's POV, but now that you mention it, I think the bonus storyline started that update too.

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

When did you find out that the progress would be 5% per week!

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[Ohhyeahbabe]

Brace yourself guys something is about to happen...L&P is cooking something. Either he will fuck up or Dylan.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Brace yourself guys something is about to happen...L&P is cooking something. Either he will fuck up or Dylan.

 

[MyFirstPornAcc]

Why it feels like progress bar moves 5% per week now

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

You give 10-15% a day! + 10000000 in karma and + 900000000 patrons of the maximum level!

 

[XaGnard]

Brace yourself guys something is about to happen...L&P is cooking something. Either he will fuck up or Dylan.

The probability is high that L&P is simply on vacation.

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Experts, Amateurs, Professionals, Stalkers..... Have any ideas what the next task (task) will be Aidan!?

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Spoiler: Maybe so!

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[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Experts, Amateurs, Professionals, Stalkers..... Have any ideas what the next task (task) will be Aidan!?

We’ll know in about 5 years when his next scene comes up

 

[ancienregimele]

Experts, Amateurs, Professionals, Stalkers..... Have any ideas what the next task (task) will be Aidan!?

If Aiden ever reappears, who can say? He's due back 6 years from now & counting, (originally it was 5 years but his last scenes were in Nov 2022 & things have slowed down some more). Aiden is a possible candidate for being written out because, despite his popularity, he's not related to Sophia, he's not a virgin, seems too old for his years & is no longer really required to tell Dylan's story, who is the real MC now & due for parity of appearances (& POVs?), with Sophia, according to the Dev. Add in the Steam preparation, the redrafting of the early part of the game & the inevitable "festival" issues creating more delays & 6 years seems too optimistic.

If he had any genuine importance he wouldn't be absent for so long. He's what employers call "redundant," as are many other sexually active characters who may not come back, such as Alyssa & Nathalie. It could be a trial run to see if enough people, i.e. Patrons, (who didn't have him ejected via the Don Morello solution), miss him & want him somewhere in AWAM. He would need to resume the smooth development of the tasks, needlessly & unrealistically interrupted at his gang HQ. IMO, he should seek to re-establish some kind of rapport by telling Sophia that the 'meeting' was indeed the 5th task, after all & move on to task 6.

Many games will have been started & finished or abandoned in the next 6 years. That's an AWAM weekend.

 

[palmtrees89]

Why it feels like progress bar moves 5% per week now

Almost. Tuesday and Saturday were the last 5% "jumps". A release in July is now pretty much out of question, though. Photoshop+Programming/Translation are most likely gonna take 2 weeks alone.

 

[LucidLover]

Progress is stalled and no teaser as well. Hmm, not cooking.

 

[Deleted member 4420830]

Spoiler: Maybe so!

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yes, I'm sure we'll see what her pussy lips look like in this update.

 

[Notretsam]

alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?