Oliver Wendell Homely

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You are quite right. This falls under intellectual copywrite laws much as any artistically creation. The copywrite owner just need to prove that at some point you viewed his work.
But this is a very broad and open legal statute and unless the owner is making millions or you are, it is often placed under the fair use clause.
Not a lawyer either but we have a few on staff to stop our designers from infringing on copy protected works.
I work in the media, so have some exposure to this stuff myself. Fair use is generally limited to parody/satire, educational purposes, and news coverage. But as you say, unless there's a lot of money being made, there's not much point getting lawyers involved.
 
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Abserd Spud

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No movement on the progress bar. Its not a bug. This has been pretty typical as we get closer to Patreon rebill day, progress slows down.

I, being the cynic that I am, have never put much faith in the progress bar. I think of it as more of a countdown when LP intends to release. Not really reflective of the progression of the game. It could be further along, or way behind 85/80%.

I suspect the 1st wk in August it will be released. If it isnt it will be the first week in September.
 
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DarthSpitz717

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I am critical of this developer.

But when I criticize a developer, I base my criticism on his words and the games he makes.

We never know if he will win the lottery, if he will change his development plan or if he will change his mind.

1. There is no evidence, and no reason, that a new plot will emerge after the Dylan story. till now.

2. So far neither Sophia nor Sam has any reason to involve anyone else in their relationship.

3. So far, only Liam, Dylan, Sam, and Natalie are likely to have sex with Sophia, and only Aiden's gang is likely to be added.

4. And I think the only story in this game without holes in plausibility is the story of Sam and Sophia.
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I am critical of this developer.

But when I criticize a developer, I base my criticism on his words and the games he makes.

We never know if he will win the lottery, if he will change his development plan or if he will change his mind.

1. There is no evidence, and no reason, that a new plot will emerge after the Dylan story. till now.
Well--maybe... I can see a Dylan & Ellie opening. Which might bring Sophia into the middle of it. Of course, Patricia did flirt with Dylan in the Yoga event-- Sooooo... ??? who knows
2. So far neither Sophia nor Sam has any reason to involve anyone else in their relationship.
Your correct there and I don't think anyone else would be included, unless they get caught
3. So far, only Liam, Dylan, Sam, and Natalie are likely to have sex with Sophia, and only Aiden's gang is likely to be added.
There I wouldn't bet the farm at all. I really don't see the movers reentering the story but everything else is in play. Going back to the college boys...it's an opening for a Patricia rout. Natalie I think is a 'tool' to get Sophia to try it...or maybe once Sophia does now swing both ways, it's an event and maybe pushes a Sophia/Ellie combo
4. And I think the only story in this game without holes in plausibility is the story of Sam and Sophia. I see your point and I have to agree mostly. The sex-ed of Dylan in the tub and the need to "educate" yah pretty lame. Sex-ed with the Myers, would be better if Sophia is just Dirty and doesn't need to excuse her behavior. But as far as H-games go, this game leans way more into plausibility then most by a long mile.

The real thing is we don't know where the dev will take things. Hell we both could get surprised. Its why I hated watching most of the early CSI shows because most times I figured out the story, the how's and the who's halfway through the show :(
 
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ancienregimele

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alright, so I like to inject some questions into this thread and change the usual convos you see in here for a bit.

Let's say hypothetically speaking, you somehow end up with the complete IP rights to AWAM, you have everything, all the 3d assets, Ren'py files and written scripts you need to continue AWAM yourself.

What are the first few things you do?
An intriguing prospect & hypothetically possible, via winning the lottery & buying L&P out, for a fair price of course. There are 2 diametrically opposed ways to look at it. An individual could either take the stories down the route they wanted, by acting as creative advisor, to the highly skilled & motivated under contract team they'd recruited, or they could carry on as at present & attempt to deliver the product that L&P appears to believe the core fans want, which perhaps they do. Either way, the contracts would be drafted to a standard commensurate with current business practice, including stipulations on timely delivery.

I'd rewrite the mission statement to reaffirm a commitment to realism & class. I'd also include a phrase to the effect that so-called "porn logic," (whatever that is), would not generally apply to this game, as being contrary to the stated commitments. Any idea of 30 PDs, or a specific time limit would have to go but there'd be no question of AWAM lasting another 40 years. There'd be no more polls. There'd be no "2nd MC." Sophia's breasts would return to the size 36D, that they were for the first 3 or so years, i.e. no more beachball breast syndrome. Both side jobs would disappear at the start of the "under new management" regime. There'd be fewer virgins & no teen prodigies. Talented yes, genius no. Dylan & Sam would both have girlfriends, as befitted their lives as handsome, single young bachelors. Ellie would be a normal teenager, with all the hang-ups & opportunities that go with that status. She'd still have occasional bitchiness but wouldn't make a hobby out of it concerning Dylan.

AWAM's early days would be re-written to eliminate any & all references to Sophia's nun-like behaviour. She'd have the attitudes of a 'normal' upper middle class suburban wife, mother & professional woman. One scene would be deleted entirely, namely the drive across town to take a shower, having already had a bath, i.e. no more cleanliness OCD.

Apart from the side job characters being written out no-one else would be but several would slip seamlessly into the background & have no further sexualised roles to play, e.g. Mr. Murray. All adjustments would be made in order to streamline & simplify the various routes & sub branches. Some would go, or be merged. There'd be no more duplication of cast characteristics or kinks. It would take too long to list all the changes that would require.

If the decision was made to continue as at present, albeit with frequent updates, I will simply outline the final scenario as a possible concluding vignette. Sophia relaxes in a fairly well-appointed beach house, which she was able to afford after the divorce settlement. It's no more than a couple of hundred miles from San Alejo, with great views over the Pacific Ocean, so that Ellie & Patricia can be visited, or come to stay regularly. She may have had between a quarter & a half of her head shaved with geometric patterns included, in an effort to look younger & please her partner Dylan. She's naked & normally her pierced nipples would carry rings or bars, sometimes matching the stud through her tongue & the jewels through her navel. Her breasts are now of an indeterminate size but resemble medicine balls, after her new friends & colleagues convinced her that nature needed expansion. Many of the old codgers at the run down care home where she works love to have them thrust in their faces.

She's tattooed along her arms, with one full sleeve, which includes life-like portraits of Dylan. Her landing strip has gone to make visible a red heart & the words, "Property of Dylan." As I say, usually she has jewellery in her nipples but currently she's pregnant with her son's child & she still thinks highly of hygiene. As for the lad himself, he snuggles into the warmth, comfort & softness of his mother's huge breasts. He doesn't need to work & exists on his father's money but he is fully appreciative that all of his wildest fantasies have been realised. He's even the MC of his own game.
 
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palmtrees89

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I work in the media, so have some exposure to this stuff myself. Fair use is generally limited to parody/satire, educational purposes, and news coverage. But as you say, unless there's a lot of money being made, there's not much point getting lawyers involved.
The thought of it is funny tho. A porn game developer who is using BIG copyrighted brands (names, logos, products, movies) throughout his game going after someone over copyright claims. Let alone incest and sexual content involving minors. That lawsuit would be more hilarious than Depp vs Heard.
 

Radoslaw Wolf

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For me the reasons why the development of the story is slower and slower:
- after 6 years L&P is burnt out,
Poor thing... He'd be so much better off commuting everyday and flipping burgers for 10 hours at minimum wage...
Too bad someone put this burden on his shoulders and forced him into this line of business.
- he didn't manage to professionalize his work,
Ditto! He's incapable of any sort of professional growth.
- because he might already be working on the Steam version for profit optimization.
That would be so L&P of him, wouldn't it?
At the latest then he should have worked on distributing the development to several people.
Of all commentators here, you should perfectly know this was one of his first patreon goals, which he's never fulfilled and for which he should be called a liar and never forgiven.

P.S. Is this a change of hearts on your part? Or is it just a brief brain fart and you're gonna report me again? :p
 

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Let's assume that the author has no family, no friends, no social interaction, is physically healthy, and never gets sick :ROFLMAO:
As for LP working pace, he doesn't have to work more than 12 hours a day and 6 days a week.

Nonetheless, he enjoys a two to three week vacation once every three months.
 
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