tofhdns

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Regarding the interesting (if sometimes somewhat aggressive) debate about what is realistic and what is not. I can only provide the following: The climate of the world epoch implies the absolute distortion of any notion of objective, crude and hard reality. Post-truth pervades all our spheres, and relativizes any objective notion of reality. But that simple and objective reality is still there. What we reinterpret of it is not a "new reality", but just our own interpretation of it. The only basic "reality" of the game, then, starts from the initial statement raised by the developers themselves. What is interesting, in the case of a game, is the richness of interpretation that it offers. But this will mean that there can never be agreements in a forum about what is real or what is not real ;-)
This is why people say that reality in games does not mean the real reality that is boring and obvious.

And that's also why I say reality is important for persuasiveness.

Reality starts from the background initially set by the developer.

But now, the developer is breaking the background he initially set up.

That is why it is said that consistency, validity and reality are broken.

As for what is realistic, you may or may not agree with me.

However, reading your post, I felt a little relieved of my cramped feeling with arsenic.

I hope there will be a discussion about what is realistic.

Rather than the ridiculous statement that reality should be ignored.
 
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I recently stumbled on this game and I personally enjoy it, despite the slow update schedule. I do not play the game, as from what I have seen, it tends to be slow paced. However, the "action" sequences are well-rendered, and although not 100% plausible, are exciting for me to watch. Especially, the 12 tasks she is required to do for Aiden. In my case, I am married to an attractive high school teacher who is also a bit of an exhibitionist, which would explain the appeal. The idea of her in some of those scenarios has crossed my mind.

My attitude is let's wait and see what the developer comes up with, I am not in a huge rush. The lesbianism hold no interest for me, and the incest with Dylan is not my thing either. I tend imagine him as more of a step-son at least, or an adopted child, and preferably the lame dad would be out of the picture.
 

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I recently stumbled on this game and I personally enjoy it, despite the slow update schedule. I do not play the game, as from what I have seen, it tends to be slow paced. However, the "action" sequences are well-rendered, and although not 100% plausible, are exciting for me to watch. Especially, the 12 tasks she is required to do for Aiden. In my case, I am married to an attractive high school teacher who is also a bit of an exhibitionist, which would explain the appeal. The idea of her in some of those scenarios has crossed my mind.

My attitude is let's wait and see what the developer comes up with, I am not in a huge rush. The lesbianism hold no interest for me, and the incest with Dylan is not my thing either. I tend imagine him as more of a step-son at least, or an adopted child, and preferably the lame dad would be out of the picture.
It's a good game to stumble across now. The first 4 years were unbearably slow progress.
 

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It's a good game to stumble across now. The first 4 years were unbearably slow progress.
At least now we're getting erotic content and not just fabric touching and Tarantino-like (movie) content dialog :HideThePain:
The scene with Sam is the best in the game so far precisely because Sophia has some interaction with the character
(I'm not a Sam fan, but that scene was something that should have happened two years ago.)
 
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Lust & nipple

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Actually is the other way around.The 4 years after first and second,were the slow progress.
I guess he means erotic content in that sense, since for 4 years there was nothing practically going on, it was literally light erotica about mommy
(In the last updates part one alone there were 3 task , 2 good Lebsian events (poolside and massage) , and Sam as a finale, if you think about it, there was hardly anything else going on in the game)
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Personally, I think it's more stimulating to follow the evolution of actors when it's evolving. Sophia should have had the same physical gestures before the Myers with her boy. She left the dimension to teach her son the art of having satisfying sex. That she allows herself to be seduced in certain situations is pleasant. That she maintains a role of guide is also pleasant. What leads me to ask myself the question? In the development of the game: would it be nice if she always wears more transparent lingerie? or more exhibitionist. At this time the actors around Sophia share their thoughts with us. I think updates with a lot of text and images that make the game evolve slowly are possible. Could this give us faster updates? It's a game with so many possibilities. I find it unfortunate that the updates are so few in time. My launches of monetary contributions for game creators correspond very much with the updates of their games. The slower it is, the less I contribute. The faster it is, I believe, to discover a new talent and my curiosity gets carried away and I want to encourage them. (I used a translator too much to say)
 

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This is why people say that reality in games does not mean the real reality that is boring and obvious.
And that's also why I say reality is important for persuasiveness.
Reality starts from the background initially set by the developer.
But now, the developer is breaking the background he initially set up.
That is why it is said that consistency, validity and reality are broken.
As for what is realistic, you may or may not agree with me.
However, reading your post, I felt a little relieved of my cramped feeling with arsenic.
I hope there will be a discussion about what is realistic.
Rather than the ridiculous statement that reality should be ignored.
I just took the trouble to read through the L&P About page for AWAM. Here the word "realistic" is used exactly two times , but each time in a specific context:

"... ambitiously staged, realistic, high-quality 1080p images ... I even pay attention to the right sun position and light, according to the time of day and much more ..."

This is clearly only about the visual quality of the game and not about the story itself.

" ... slowly developing story and gradual character development of the protagonist, to create an arc of suspense (actually all characters have their own personality)! Showing too much skin right at the beginning ruins the suspense. In my game everything is adapted to the story! And there will still be a lot of sizzling scenes! ... And all this is set in a big, realistic world, where the protagonist will eat, sleep, take showers, work etc., all accompanied by a realistic daily rhythm. ..."

This is about explaining the slow burn and then talking about the characters going through actual days in the game. It's basically explaining why L&P is so fixated on packing so many events into each game day. The point here is that the individual characters are more than mere shells, i.e. they eat, practice bodily hygiene, go to work, etc.

Nowhere in this text does it say that the story itself is, or should be, realistic. From my point of view, this makes sense, because you can't write a fun to play incest story in a realistic way.

BTW, I found something else that affects all those who are upset about L&P unexpectedly leaving decisions to Dylan. L&P seems to have planned this as a possible option from the beginning:

" ... Playing as a MILF just brings an approach wind into the adult game world! Furthermore I'm thinking about maybe switching the playable character to a male one a few time later on and letting him make decisions! ... "

It's crazy to think how many people here have been crying about this as a supposed change in the plan. LOL.

It is time to remember that AWAM is only a porn game (L&P calls it a adult game). From the beginning, the story had many events that would never have worked in the real world. I have given a few examples that do not even fully cover all events. Nothing has changed, except that the game is slowly progressing in the slow burn and coming into the mid game. There will be a lot more real world unrealistic events coming up, we can all be sure of that. If you think that's not good, that's your problem, I think everyone who wants to play the story in AWAM to the end at some point should celebrate that something is finally happening. Especially since compared to other games here, AWAM is still a slow burn game.
 

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" ... Playing as a MILF just brings an approach wind into the adult game world! Furthermore I'm thinking about maybe switching the playable character to a male one a few time later on and letting him make decisions! ... "

It's crazy to think how many people here have been crying about this as a supposed change in the plan. LOL.
My critique isn't that there was a change in the plan, it's that the idea for the story and main character was always very solid and encouraging but the plan to have a male POV (originally Liam, iirc) was bad from the start and the changes in the plan have made things worse.

While I've ranted and raged a few times over the years I've certainly shed no tears about the plan or changes in the plan. I've long thought that adding a male teenager's POV is dumb, as redundant as Meatballs 4 - as if it was telling a story that hadn't been told a thousand times before. There's no reason we can't get Dylan's thoughts (or anyone else's, for that matter) by conversation with Sophia. And as far as giving Dylan agency (choices), those opportunities could easily be achieved from Sophia's POV by allowing the player to choose Sophia's interpretation of events. For example, the swimming lessons event - instead of a choice of "Dylan gets jealous: Yes/No", it could be Sophia thinking "Sam is getting a bit touchy-feely: Dylan looks jealous/Dylan seems to enjoy watching".
 

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I just took the trouble to read through the L&P About page for AWAM. Here the word "realistic" is used exactly two times , but each time in a specific context:

"... ambitiously staged, realistic, high-quality 1080p images ... I even pay attention to the right sun position and light, according to the time of day and much more ..."

This is clearly only about the visual quality of the game and not about the story itself.

" ... slowly developing story and gradual character development of the protagonist, to create an arc of suspense (actually all characters have their own personality)! Showing too much skin right at the beginning ruins the suspense. In my game everything is adapted to the story! And there will still be a lot of sizzling scenes! ... And all this is set in a big, realistic world, where the protagonist will eat, sleep, take showers, work etc., all accompanied by a realistic daily rhythm. ..."

This is about explaining the slow burn and then talking about the characters going through actual days in the game. It's basically explaining why L&P is so fixated on packing so many events into each game day. The point here is that the individual characters are more than mere shells, i.e. they eat, practice bodily hygiene, go to work, etc.

Nowhere in this text does it say that the story itself is, or should be, realistic. From my point of view, this makes sense, because you can't write a fun to play incest story in a realistic way.

BTW, I found something else that affects all those who are upset about L&P unexpectedly leaving decisions to Dylan. L&P seems to have planned this as a possible option from the beginning:

" ... Playing as a MILF just brings an approach wind into the adult game world! Furthermore I'm thinking about maybe switching the playable character to a male one a few time later on and letting him make decisions! ... "

It's crazy to think how many people here have been crying about this as a supposed change in the plan. LOL.

It is time to remember that AWAM is only a porn game (L&P calls it a adult game). From the beginning, the story had many events that would never have worked in the real world. I have given a few examples that do not even fully cover all events. Nothing has changed, except that the game is slowly progressing in the slow burn and coming into the mid game. There will be a lot more real world unrealistic events coming up, we can all be sure of that. If you think that's not good, that's your problem, I think everyone who wants to play the story in AWAM to the end at some point should celebrate that something is finally happening. Especially since compared to other games here, AWAM is still a slow burn game.
Do you have bad eyesight or do you have good editing skills?




Hey guys and welcome to my Patreon page!

I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game,

What makes my game special and what is my focus?
1.) Primarily my very ambitiously staged, realistic, high-quality 1080p images, in which I keep a very close eye on even the smallest detail, to make them look as realistic as possible

"Playable" means that sometimes the story will be continued a week later, for example, in order to make it more authentic.

In my opinion the best adult games are the easiest (playable) ones with good stories.
 

XaGnard

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Do you have bad eyesight or do you have good editing skills?




Hey guys and welcome to my Patreon page!

I've decided to develop my own ambitious, realistic, detail-oriented, quality-focused adult game,

What makes my game special and what is my focus?
1.) Primarily my very ambitiously staged, realistic, high-quality 1080p images, in which I keep a very close eye on even the smallest detail, to make them look as realistic as possible

"Playable" means that sometimes the story will be continued a week later, for example, in order to make it more authentic.

In my opinion the best adult games are the easiest (playable) ones with good stories.
That is exactly what I said. Nowhere does it say that the story is realistic. Again, this is the text were he write about what is realitic about his game ....

Point 1 is about the images:


"... ambitiously staged, realistic, high-quality 1080p images ... I even pay attention to the right sun position and light, according to the time of day and much more ..."

Point 4 is about a ...

" ... slowly developing story and gradual character development of the protagonist, to create an arc of suspense (actually all characters have their own personality)! Showing too much skin right at the beginning ruins the suspense. In my game everything is adapted to the story! And there will still be a lot of sizzling scenes! ... And all this is set in a big, realistic world, where the protagonist will eat, sleep, take showers, work etc., all accompanied by a realistic daily rhythm. ..."

Where you interpret a realistic story into this is beyond me. If L&P had wanted that, he would have written it, don't you think?


Jeez, I think at some point you have to realise that no one can seriously think that you can put a realistic incest story in a porn game. This is a stupid idea and cannot work.
 
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