VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Deleted member 3727657]

Let's bless Sofia's first handjob ✊ Let's celebrate this day every year ✊ This day is in history, future generations will remember this day, today Sofia did not die, today a new Sofia was born, Sofia is stronger than ever ✊✊✊

 

[Galaktur]

Let's bless Sofia's first handjob ✊ Let's celebrate this day every year ✊ This day is in history, future generations will remember this day, today Sofia did not die, today a new Sofia was born, Sofia is stronger than ever ✊✊✊

You still tell me to erect a 50-meter monument to her in Times Square))))

 

[XaGnard]

I feel like this game is very feminine in a lot of ways, so if this developer is a woman and she has a girlfriend and this female developer has homosexual tendencies, I think a lot of the arguments that have been going on could be resolved.

I believe that this developer is ignorant of men's culture and owns women's fantasies.
At the same time, others are saying that this developer's values toward women are narrow-minded and degrading.
And I agree with them and say that this developer views women as objects of exploitation and instrumentalizes women.

This is the epitome of radical feminism.

They are not friendly towards relationships between men and women and are aggressive towards women who have deep relationships with men.

They believe that all women are sexually instrumentalized/brainwashed, which is why they regard men as enemies and women who stay close to men as foolish traitors.

And their fantasy about the man they want and the way they view men are well expressed in this game.

And now they are fighting to abolish the titles 'man/woman' and they are destroying traditional femininity and encouraging homosexuality.

(However, I have not yet decided which developer this is.)

I don't understand the point of this post. It is a strange mix of your own prejudices and the prejudices you perceive exist in society. Also, I do not get why do you try to analyze AWAM (a porn game) in the context to 3rd wave feminism? It's already nonsensical to try to infer the gender of the author from the content of the game, but then to also try to link this to 3rd-wave feminism is just useless jibberish.

AWAM is a fucking porn game. Such games are intentional filled with stereotypes and exaggerations. Moreover, there are various scenes in the game that contradict your statements. For example, the game has both strong female characters (like Patrica and Marie) and those who are more conservative and weak in decision making (like Sophia) or even shy (like Emma). Also, If you look at Dylan and Sam as the male "heroes" in this game, you can see that they both come off quite well. This is at max neutral and absolutely not 3rd wave feminism.

The only thing someone can really blame L&P for is the high number of villains (which are actually all male). But here I would not blame feminism, but simply L&P's tendency to incorporate the same idea over and over again into the story. This is simply bad gamedesign. In the end, however, AWAM follows the normal porn logic in most of its storylines, which I think is the right decision for a porn game.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I feel like this game is very feminine in a lot of ways, so if this developer is a woman and she has a girlfriend and this female developer has homosexual tendencies, I think a lot of the arguments that have been going on could be resolved.

I believe that this developer is ignorant of men's culture and owns women's fantasies.
At the same time, others are saying that this developer's values toward women are narrow-minded and degrading.
And I agree with them and say that this developer views women as objects of exploitation and instrumentalizes women.

This is the epitome of radical feminism.

They are not friendly towards relationships between men and women and are aggressive towards women who have deep relationships with men.

They believe that all women are sexually instrumentalized/brainwashed, which is why they regard men as enemies and women who stay close to men as foolish traitors.

And their fantasy about the man they want and the way they view men are well expressed in this game.

And now they are fighting to abolish the titles 'man/woman' and they are destroying traditional femininity and encouraging homosexuality.

(However, I have not yet decided which developer this is.)

It is going to be interesting to see if many of the complaints about non-sensical plot and dialogue will continue into the Ellie route events on PD14, since that is likely to be the next lesbian event in the game.

Unless it's more about setting up the Ellie/Sam branch, since Sam is due to make an appearance in between the events.

 

[tofhdns]

I don't understand the point of this post. It is a strange mix of your own prejudices and the prejudices you perceive exist in society. Also, I do not get why do you try to analyze AWAM (a porn game) in the context to 3rd wave feminism? It's already nonsensical to try to infer the gender of the author from the content of the game, but then to also try to link this to 3rd-wave feminism is just useless jibberish.

AWAM is a fucking porn game. Such games are intentional filled with stereotypes and exaggerations. Moreover, there are various scenes in the game that contradict your statements. For example, the game has both strong female characters (like Patrica and Marie) and those who are more conservative and weak in decision making (like Sophia) or even shy (like Emma). Also, If you look at Dylan and Sam as the male "heroes" in this game, you can see that they both come off quite well. This is at max neutral and absolutely not 3rd wave feminism.

The only thing someone can really blame L&P for is the high number of villains (which are actually all male). But here I would not blame feminism, but simply L&P's tendency to incorporate the same idea over and over again into the story. This is simply bad gamedesign. In the end, however, AWAM follows the normal porn logic in most of its storylines, which I think is the right decision for a porn game.

Everyone has two sides.
In the post above, I explained why this ambivalence arises.

The starting point for me to form an opinion about whether this developer was a woman or a man was for a rather trivial reason.

I commented that this game was very feminine in many parts and that the developer seemed very ignorant of male culture.

That's all I was saying and then someone said "This developer is a woman" and the fire started, but then someone said again "It was a joke" and that's how the conversation ended.

Recently, someone said, "I know someone who worked with this developer, and this developer is a woman," and the debate started again, and I joined in because I had my own thoughts.

As I've written before, it doesn't matter to me whether the developer is a woman or a man.
Regardless of whether this developer is a woman or a man, to me, the fact that this developer is ignorant of male culture remains the same.
However, what is helpful to me is that it helps me determine how the developer is trying to take this game forward.
That's it.

I haven't yet decided whether this developer is a woman or a man, and even if this developer is a woman, I'm not sure if it's feminist.

However, if this developer were a woman, it is assumed that she would have been influenced by feminist ideas.

The basis for this has already been written in the post above.

And I don't understand why you react so sensitively to the comment, "This developer might be a woman."

As you said, this developer has been criticized for her many mistakes, frequent lies, and irresponsibility.
She has never been criticized because this developer might be a woman. Even now.

 

[tofhdns]

It is going to be interesting to see if many of the complaints about non-sensical plot and dialogue will continue into the Ellie route events on PD14, since that is likely to be the next lesbian event in the game.

Unless it's more about setting up the Ellie/Sam branch, since Sam is due to make an appearance in between the events.

I'm not really interested in the lesbian route, so I have nothing to say.

However, the lesbian route has never failed so far and Sofia has never had any regrets, so it seems like it will go smoothly.
(Again, I did not read the lines properly.)

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'm not really interested in the lesbian route, so I have nothing to say.

However, the lesbian route has never failed so far and Sofia has never had any regrets, so it seems like it will go smoothly.
(Again, I did not read the lines properly.)

And I'm not particularly interested in the Sam or Dylan routes. When I started playing it was the GW route, I found it to be quite a bore, but the lesbian route started well and has only got better.

As I've said before, unless you're invested in a particular kink, like Mother/Son, or blackmail, or MILF/boy, there isn't anything particularly appealing about the Sam or Dylan routes. They've taken too long to get to where they need to go. And start badly.

Whereas the Ellie route starts just by Ellie complimenting Sophia on her looks. That Ellie has noticed the stares that Sophia still gets at places like the beach.

But while I don't play the routes, I've noticed a lot of complaints that since Part 2 started, much of the comments have been complaints about poor dialogue, not being able to get scenes without using the gallery, etc, etc.

 

[tofhdns]

And I'm not particularly interested in the Sam or Dylan routes. When I started playing it was the GW route, I found it to be quite a bore, but the lesbian route started well and has only got better.

As I've said before, unless you're invested in a particular kink, like Mother/Son, or blackmail, or MILF/boy, there isn't anything particularly appealing about the Sam or Dylan routes. They've taken too long to get to where they need to go. And start badly.

Whereas the Ellie route starts just by Ellie complimenting Sophia on her looks. That Ellie has noticed the stares that Sophia still gets at places like the beach.

But while I don't play the routes, I've noticed a lot of complaints that since Part 2 started, much of the comments have been complaints about poor dialogue, not being able to get scenes without using the gallery, etc, etc.

I think I offended you, but I didn't mean to and I was just trying to explain my ignorance about it.

Good luck to you.

 

[tofhdns]

Bibifoc, funny?

 

[Bibifoc]

Bibifoc, funny?

I'm a simple guy, I give a Haha like every time I burst out laughing when I read a post.

In this case, it's a reward for your work as a whole, but I confess the laugh was especially triggered by the use of the word irresponsibility.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I think I offended you, but I didn't mean to and I was just trying to explain my ignorance about it.

Good luck to you.

Offended? Not in the slightest. If you offended me, I likely wouldn't be dignifying your post with a response.

I was just making a point that just because you don't play a route, doesn't mean you can't be informed about it.

I don't get offended if someone plays a different route to me. One of the things I've enjoyed about this game ever since I started playing is precisely that you can choose what route you want to play. All of the games I financially support have this option. What does tend to offend me and put people on my ignore list is when they try and invalidate my opinion just because I don't share their kinks.

 

[XaGnard]

Offended? Not in the slightest. If you offended me, I likely wouldn't be dignifying your post with a response.

I was just making a point that just because you don't play a route, doesn't mean you can't be informed about it.

I don't get offended if someone plays a different route to me. One of the things I've enjoyed about this game ever since I started playing is precisely that you can choose what route you want to play. All of the games I financially support have this option. What does tend to offend me and put people on my ignore list is when they try and invalidate my opinion just because I don't share their kinks.

I'd be interested to know how many times this year you've written that you don't actually play the game.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'd be interested to know how many times this year you've written that you don't actually play the game.

Considering that I do actually play the game, you're not making the point you're trying to make. I haven't downloaded an update in a while, but that's not the same thing.

Last time I played the game (or replayed) was just after the recent discussion about Emma. Discovered I identified her hair incorrectly (turns out it's an asset called "Emma Hair").

As I've said ad nauseum, I may not play all the same routes as others, but the routes I do enjoy I enjoy very much. I might complain about the game a lot recently, but there's a reason it's still linked in my signature. I still do recommend the game to people on occasion.

And I look forward to downloading updates again, when there's content I find interesting. The game hasn't gone to the dogs quite yet.

 

[wolverutto]

Hello guys,
I accidentally deleted the folder where I had saved my games and saves, I had finished AWAM 0185, now I wanted to play AWAM 0190 and future update but I no longer have the saves, files etc.
How can I continue playing AWAM? Unfortunately I lost all the files I had...:-(
I have to download only part 2 or part 1 also?
Thanks

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Fairly sure you're not wrong about points #2 and #3. I've been arguing that Patricia has been the most corrupting influence in the game so far. Some characters like the movers might have achieved a little, but not as much as she has.

As for Liam, since I haven't downloaded the game in over a year I can't even check the code, but I'm fairly sure the reason Sam and Dylan manage to get as far as they do is precisely because Liam isn't around. It's Liam's focus on work and the promotion he's seeking that prompts him to invite the boss over to watch the game, over date night with Sophia. She wouldn't have even been around for the Dylan event if Liam didn't make that decision.

He's not cheating on Sophia, just neglecting her, but that's almost just as bad. Still means she's not getting the affection she deserves

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Fairly sure you're not wrong about points #2 and #3. I've been arguing that Patricia has been the most corrupting influence in the game so far. Some characters like the movers might have achieved a little, but not as much as she has. Oddly, Patricia is the perfect character build out of the entire story. And that build is a shallow one. A rich trophy wife who is bored giving in to her impulses with a husband willing to indulge many of them. And you are 100% correct about Patricia being the strongest corrupting influence. If I am right about how the story is being created (the developer bringing all the main characters to the very edge of getting Sophia), this is how the dominos should fall:
Patrica calls up Sophia to go on a private viewing of the Muesum with the two college students they met earlier in the game. Lots of playful banter as they are viewing the paintings and sculptures. (It's a little pass 1:00pm). It takes 4 hours to go through the museum and the two boys ask Patrica and Sophia to have dinner at a pizza place--it sparks up a conversation among the group about what it was like for Patrica and Sophia going to college and how they and their friends always seemed to find themselves at a pizza place. More stories are shared about college in the old days; then the story turns to some of the wilder times. Patrica convinces Sophia to go visit the boy's dorm like they did in the old days. At the dorm room the boys had a secret stash of wine or mixings for cocktails...one of the boy's turns on the stereo and Patrica asks one of them to dance. Time passes (a song or two), Patrica is dancing while Sophia is talking to the other. The two boys are making small moves on the two women when Sophia and the other boy start to dance too.***** There needs a point when Sophia has to "fall" or meaning someone has to be the first to get it on with her. Right now, Sophia is "slipping", and this might be the perfect moment that sets everything off. Some event has to happen where wall of morality is breached to where she gives in to Sam, Dylan, etc. A lesbian scene happening beforehand isn't as damaging as actually getting it on with one of the male characters so there is room how events go down.

As for Liam, since I haven't downloaded the game in over a year I can't even check the code, but I'm fairly sure the reason Sam and Dylan manage to get as far as they do is precisely because Liam isn't around. It's Liam's focus on work and the promotion he's seeking that prompts him to invite the boss over to watch the game, over date night with Sophia. She wouldn't have even been around for the Dylan event if Liam didn't make that decision. All too true--an inattentive Liam has allowed events to unfold. I think some people have missed an important part though. Enough hints as to Sophia's behavior shows her very personality puts her at risk of straying from her marriage. So she is vulnerable to begin with and Liam's self absortion just adds gasoline to the fire.

He's not cheating on Sophia, just neglecting her, but that's almost just as bad. Still means she's not getting the affection she deserves....I just wished that angle was hit a little harder to lend more credibility and plausibility to the story

 

[Bibifoc]

Hello guys,
I accidentally deleted the folder where I had saved my games and saves, I had finished AWAM 0185, now I wanted to play AWAM 0190 and future update but I no longer have the saves, files etc.
How can I continue playing AWAM? Unfortunately I lost all the files I had...:-(
I have to download only part 2 or part 1 also?
Thanks

All Renpy games have 2 separate save folders. If you just deleted the folder where the game usually is, you didn't lose your saves.

 

[Tsunade96]

It come from the Combined Edition, see at the top op

I don't see any such filter. Where can I find this combined version?

 

[wolverutto]

All Renpy games have 2 separate save folders. If you just deleted the folder where the game usually is, you didn't lose your saves.

Thanks for your answer but i have deleted my big folder not only save folder.
I do not have all the files I had downloaded, I do not have anything anymore....

 

[wolverutto]

All Renpy games have 2 separate save folders. If you just deleted the folder where the game usually is, you didn't lose your saves.

I am now downloading the game version 0190 and 0150, do you think if I reinstall the game I will find all the old saves?

 

[wolverutto]

All Renpy games have 2 separate save folders. If you just deleted the folder where the game usually is, you didn't lose your saves.

i have installed 0.190 and i see all my old save but if i load my last save i cannot continue the game, maybe i have to install 0.150 or 0185?