Notretsam

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I wish I had the time to make fan-made stuff for this, I have had many good ideas for this visual novel but my ideas are more plot twists and would require many images to be made.
 

JinxtheCumCannon

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I've been a Lurker in this thread for a year now. I've wanted to ask this for a long time; and its that...recently... does it seem like LP originally thought Dylan and Ellie were just side-note prop characters.?.. And is only NOW building them up to be core to AWAM's story? I've played since the beginning and the story of A Wife and Mother seemed to be about Sophia building deeper relationships with so many others (Neighbours/Workers/Boss/Students) rather than her own family.

I think LP REALLY underestimated how popular the incest fanbase was, especially Dylan/Sophia routes. In the beginning, her "moments" with her son seemed to be tongue-in-cheek means to add to her "filthiness" as opposed to building up that incest story-line. One moment two years ago that really had me for loop was Sophia would be absolutely fine to french kiss her own daughter naked in the shower...whilst (in the same day) her son taking a peek at her in a dress... ABSOLUTE NO NO

Sophia had this wall with Dylan that just seemed so off EVEN with players going the filthy route. But the worst was yet to come

It reached its Apex of confusion when players found out that to increase Dylan's incest relationship with his mom, they had to "willingly" take part in being exploited by her son's bully, and then send Dylan away to boarding school (Like... wtf! I'm still reeling from LP's thought process for that even after a year!)

After playing the new patch it's obvious... LP did a complete 180 with Sophia/Dylan's relationship and although I very much enjoyed the update. I feel as though LP is rushing to add in these moments which should have been there since the beginning. To make Ellie/Sophia or Dylan/Sophia story-lines work...Wife and Mother needs to do some trimming before to the full game is released.

LP needs to REMOVE storylines people have no interest in pursuing. A poll to see the most unpopular storylines/relationships should be done for LP's community. The character popularity poll showed which characters people want more out of this game and it surprised no one (except LP) that Dylan and Ellie were the most popular.

I believe LP can make an amazing full release, but it def needs more build up with the characters the fanbase likes. Even if LP didn't think much of Dylan and Ellie since AWAM's inception, I believe LP is making the correct steps to building up their relationship. It just needs to happen organically in the patches to come
 

armion82

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considering the development time and the % at 40 I would say 12-13 animations
You misses a 0 at the end.Surely it should be at least 120-130 animations.
After all if a team of 3-4 people can make 120-130 animations in 2 weeks,surely that animator can make same number for 4 months.
 
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I've been a Lurker in this thread for a year now. I've wanted to ask this for a long time; and its that...recently... does it seem like LP originally thought Dylan and Ellie were just side-note prop characters.?.. And is only NOW building them up to be core to AWAM's story? I've played since the beginning and the story of A Wife and Mother seemed to be about Sophia building deeper relationships with so many others (Neighbours/Workers/Boss/Students) rather than her own family.

I think LP REALLY underestimated how popular the incest fanbase was, especially Dylan/Sophia routes. In the beginning, her "moments" with her son seemed to be tongue-in-cheek means to add to her "filthiness" as opposed to building up that incest story-line. One moment two years ago that really had me for loop was Sophia would be absolutely fine to french kiss her own daughter naked in the shower...whilst (in the same day) her son taking a peek at her in a dress... ABSOLUTE NO NO

Sophia had this wall with Dylan that just seemed so off EVEN with players going the filthy route. But the worst was yet to come

It reached its Apex of confusion when players found out that to increase Dylan's incest relationship with his mom, they had to "willingly" take part in being exploited by her son's bully, and then send Dylan away to boarding school (Like... wtf! I'm still reeling from LP's thought process for that even after a year!)

After playing the new patch it's obvious... LP did a complete 180 with Sophia/Dylan's relationship and although I very much enjoyed the update. I feel as though LP is rushing to add in these moments which should have been there since the beginning. To make Ellie/Sophia or Dylan/Sophia story-lines work...Wife and Mother needs to do some trimming before to the full game is released.

LP needs to REMOVE storylines people have no interest in pursuing. A poll to see the most unpopular storylines/relationships should be done for LP's community. The character popularity poll showed which characters people want more out of this game and it surprised no one (except LP) that Dylan and Ellie were the most popular.

I believe LP can make an amazing full release, but it def needs more build up with the characters the fanbase likes. Even if LP didn't think much of Dylan and Ellie since AWAM's inception, I believe LP is making the correct steps to building up their relationship. It just needs to happen organically in the patches to come
How many hot moms are really out there in real life? By that I mean a mom who has 2 teenage kids but is always the hottest woman wherever she goes. I've seen some attractive moms but I can't remember a time when I saw a mom with two teenagers who was so hot that I wanted to fuck her. Maybe if there were more hot moms like Sophia than the teenage son lust/incest trope would be more common than it is now. Most people immediately think of their own mom when it enters the mind and go, yuck, disgusting, no way, etc. How can we truly know unless we had a mom like Sophia in real life and maybe the son lusting after mom would be more common?
 
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Notretsam

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would love to see your ideas
  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach.
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell.
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties.
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along.
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows as well.
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious.
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them.
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.
 
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Dave98424

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You misses a 0 at the end.Surely it should be at least 120-130 animations.
After all if a team of 3-4 people can make 120-130 animations in 2 weeks,surely that animator can make same number for 4 months.
You are making a rather large assumption that the developer is really working hard on the game vs milking it. Why produce 120+ animations when you can get by doing as little work as possible and drag the game on and on so you have more money to spend.
 

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  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach.
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell.
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties.
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along.
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well.
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious.
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them.
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.
i like 2,3.4.7.8
 

kimber700

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  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach.
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell.
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties.
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along.
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well.
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious.
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them.
  10. A scene with
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.
  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach.
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell.
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties.
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along.
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well.
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious.
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them.
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.
I would like to see a scene that two couples, Sam with Sophia and Dylan with Amber, have a very intimate and erotic date in a public place.
 
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  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach.
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell.
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties.
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along.
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well.
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious.
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them.
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.
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  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach. I don't think so. Zac is the most innocent of the three and he ought to have his own special go at Sophia
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra So how plausible would something like that occur?
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell. I would think a Ellie/Julia scene be better for Ellie's first lesbian experience and maybe for Julia as well. If Sam and Sophia get caught like that, the whole plot is destroyed
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties. Isn't that pretty much how the tasks have gone save for the really stupid ones? It would have been better if the tasks were narrow and more corrupting of Sophia with Aiden getting most of the benefit
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower...sure that one works
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along. Ummm No. Sophia doesn't share any of her misadventures with anyone. Plus that is the send worst plot ridden disaster of the whole story. If anything the last tutoring session was when she was on the phone and getting groped that could have been plausible if somehow Sophia enjoyed it too much
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well. best use of the mom would be on a tutoring day something serious comes up and the mom asks Sophia to babysit for a few hours and things go very bad or naughty and the end of the whole tutoring job. But I think that part of the story is dead anyhow so... it is what it is or wasn't
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious. that tuns afoul of Sam's real feelings for Sophia and Dylan for that matter
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them. that makes sense and is plausible as far as having a Antonia in the first place
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber... actually that SHOULD be in the mix. With Sam and Sophia its in the cards already. But there is no closure with Amber/Dylan in the offering, nor a plot device to further educate Dylan when is his turn with Sophia
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.

The problem with a lot of stories in porn games, plausibility, timing, subject and just an over all rush to get to the good bits ruin the whole game. "Aiden's Revenge" which I stumbled across "HAD" a good potential and could have gotten off to a fast start with the juicy bits, but in rushing things and forgetting the character makeup of the individuals, dooms the game to bottom feeder status of most H-games
 
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  1. The bikini show should have been followed up with a bra and panties show which may or may not include Zach. I don't think so. Zac is the most innocent of the three and he ought to have his own special go at Sophia
  2. birthday party for Dylan, Sophia comes out with the cake, her top pops open and she not wearing a bra So how plausible would something like that occur?
  3. Julia catches Sophia and Sam who is naked and having sex with her because there is no way Sam does not try to have sex with her. Julia tells Ellie, which then leads to heaven or hell. I would think a Ellie/Julia scene be better for Ellie's first lesbian experience and maybe for Julia as well. If Sam and Sophia get caught like that, the whole plot is destroyed
  4. The task in the classroom is for Sophia to not wear a bra or panties, she has to prove at the back of the class she not wearing panties by showing Aiden. then she has to show the whole class she not wearing panties. Isn't that pretty much how the tasks have gone save for the really stupid ones? It would have been better if the tasks were narrow and more corrupting of Sophia with Aiden getting most of the benefit
  5. Julia stays over and joins Ellie and Sophia in the shower...sure that one works
  6. Sophia learns from Dylan the tutoring boys are tricking her but she plays along. Ummm No. Sophia doesn't share any of her misadventures with anyone. Plus that is the send worst plot ridden disaster of the whole story. If anything the last tutoring session was when she was on the phone and getting groped that could have been plausible if somehow Sophia enjoyed it too much
  7. The tutoring boy's mum has been recording the lessons the whole time and the woman their mum introduced Sophia to knows is aware as well. best use of the mom would be on a tutoring day something serious comes up and the mom asks Sophia to babysit for a few hours and things go very bad or naughty and the end of the whole tutoring job. But I think that part of the story is dead anyhow so... it is what it is or wasn't
  8. Dylan knows his mum is wanted by all his friends, something Sophia doesn't believe. Dylan dares her to recreate the swimming lesson scene with his friends but this time Sophia is not to wear a bra, Dylan states his friend's reaction will tell her how wrong she is. Sophia learns she was tricked by Dylan and Sam in the swimming event but agrees to do it as she is curious. that tuns afoul of Sam's real feelings for Sophia and Dylan for that matter
  9. Sophia tries Antonia again when it's only Alyssa around, this leads to more with Alyssa, Zach may or may not walk in on them. that makes sense and is plausible as far as having a Antonia in the first place
  10. A scene with Sam and Sophia + Dylan with Amber... actually that SHOULD be in the mix. With Sam and Sophia its in the cards already. But there is no closure with Amber/Dylan in the offering, nor a plot device to further educate Dylan when is his turn with Sophia
off the top of my head, that is 10 ideas I have but I'm too busy with my own visual novel, maybe someone else has the time to do them.

The problem with a lot of stories in porn games, plausibility, timing, subject and just an over all rush to get to the good bits ruin the whole game. "Aiden's Revenge" which I stumbled across "HAD" a good potential and could have gotten off to a fast start with the juicy bits, but in rushing things and forgetting the character makeup of the individuals, dooms the game to bottom feeder status of most H-games
Doesn't Lust & Passion
ruin the logic of playing Sophia, who only allows her nipples to be sucked but won't let herself be fucked? In what reality would this end with further learning to play instruments?
Or is it Sophia going to meet Aiden, with that not being her task ?
Logically, the only logical option is a good wife.
 
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