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Hello.
In this game there is a etero path (.. with some options, I would say) and a lesbian path.
Okay
I wonder... why the protagonist can't be etero but with lesbian interests.. a sort of bi-curious (.. if not bisexual) ?
Or even just a sexually perverted mother who step by step discovers her true nature ?
So we don't necessarily have to choose between one path and another.
And she can take big ocks as well as she can lick juicy pussies)))
Do you agree ?
 

fishbrain

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Hello.
In this game there is a etero path (.. with some options, I would say) and a lesbian path.
Okay
I wonder... why the protagonist can't be etero but with lesbian interests.. a sort of bi-curious (.. if not bisexual) ?
Or even just a sexually perverted mother who step by step discovers her true nature ?
So we don't necessarily have to choose between one path and another.
And she can take big ocks as well as she can lick juicy pussies)))
Do you agree ?
Every character's path is basically standalone but there are some where you have to choose one or the other if you want full content. There's no specific straight or lesbian paths.
 
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palmtrees89

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Had a few back and forth with LP so I’m just summarising below.

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No info on the game of Basketball with Liam+Boss+Neil? Would be nice to know, but thanks for the infos anyway!

Too bad the Vicky event is supposed to be a lesbian only event. Was hoping to have DeShawn play a role in it. Oh well.

(By the way, actual screenshots of L&P's answers would be appreciated as that'd make it more...official, if you know what I mean. How do we know you're not just interpreting his answers like that? :D )
 

Bibifoc

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(By the way, actual screenshots of L&P's answers would be appreciated as that'd make it more...official, if you know what I mean. How do we know you're not just interpreting his answers like that? :D )
The answers, usually very precise, leave no room for interpretation :unsure:
 
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Gogo1236

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What you people are complaining about? This is definitely top 10 VN I have ever played even if the subject is not really my forte and I have only discovered it recently.

Great story with good and believable character arches. It's a fing big plus that the story unfolds in this pace. I hate the impossible "oh you brushed my thigh I am soo horny I must f everything now, despite it does not make sense and it wouldn't happened in real life in a million years" scenarios.

Characters stay consistent. Notice how Sophia behaves in situations that are compromising or she does not like, even when you go more daring route. She does not become dick crazed shell only does something that's beyond here system of values if forced.
She obviously changes and becomes more adventurous but again everything stays within the character definition. She does not suddenly change in someone else, like in "Good Girl Gone Bad" for example. Great game btw but this is its biggest flaw for me. Ashley is just someone else when you are done with the game.
Also noticed the difference between Dylan and Sam arch. How Sophia treats them completely different.

Story here actually has a chance of being plausible, which makes it so good. On top of that you have well written and consistent characters, good models and the art keeps getting better and better. Especially the recent updates. You can see how the artis grew with the project. On the downside from my own experience I know that good art takes time, so there is considerable break between updates, but I think at this point I am OK with the trade. I even wish they did part 1 remake on the side with the updated visuals.

You want fapping material, there is plenty of that on the internet. This visual novel is very unique. You can find plenty games that look really great and have beautiful art, character models, style, and graphics but it is a good story that makes the game great in my opinion. This is what so unique here.

Only downside for me is some of the lines are just "who the f talks like that" but I do get that it is mandatory to inform the player of main protagonist cup size and all that in this type of games :D

I was looking for some inspiration for my next painting or project. I might do some "A Wife and Mother" fan art. I already have some interesting ideas :)


P.S. I didn't expect to rumble that much, but I am just this impress with the title. Sorry for the wall of text :)
Lol, you only discovered it recently, even if I exaggerate it, let's say you discovered it last year. Now imagine the plight of people who discovered it 5 to 7 years back. People aren't angry cuz of renders or story, their anger is mainly targetted towards pace of the story. Characters had consistency but even that is heavily flawed. You had plenty of content to play in this recent past that's why you don't understand why people keep cribbing, give it time and you will crib too. I had the same view as yours but now I'm one of the naysayers. I still appreciate the game though, however flawed it may have become.
 

INOM_18

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Had a few back and forth with LP so I’m just summarising below.

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Some questions and answers.

ME

1) From the 0.200 scenes it seems like you had to speed up what happens to Sophia and Ellie. Will this acceleration of events also happen in the next events of the day with Dylan?
2) If this acceleration of events is confirmed, do you intend to eliminate some playable days to reduce the time needed to make the game?
3) The next update will be the same scene but only with Ellie and without the Boys. You mentioned that the size of the update will be approximately similar to the previous one. You also said you will keep the .200 animations. In addition to these animations, will you have to add any new ones?
4) Did the changes you had to make to the plot also change the importance of some secondary characters? For example, Tayler seemed like he shouldn't have any particular impact on Sophia's story, but now it seems like he could be very important in future events. Monday?
5) Some time ago I asked you if you were also thinking about re-evaluating the timing in which Sophia will cheat with a full hetero relationship. Can we say that this evaluation has been and will be applied?
6) Will the addition of Sam and Vicky events on matchday 14 be mentioned with events dedicated to them or will they just be brief appearances within events dedicated to others, such as Dylan?
These last two questions are more of my considerations.
7) In the last playable days, will there only be wild sex events of Sophia, Dylan, Sam, Ellie or will they be dedicated to the consequences of what came before?
8) On the dirty course, will Sophia have the chance at the end of the game to emerge victorious, therefore not being discovered for her betrayals and living a happy life?

L&P ANSWERS


1) To be honest, this was due to the pressure to finally deliver “something more”. And I thought about slowing down a bit in terms of speed. The problem is simply that there are too many characters, which was a big mistake. But now I have them and I can't let some of them die in the middle of the game. I've written most of the scene with Dylan, but I still have to think about it a bit. So I can't and don't want to say anything about it this early on.

2) Here again, I can say that there are so many characters that there are new ones every day. But it gets even more varied, also through Dylan's own scenes later on.

3) So the next update is really only about the middle part in the sauna, this time without the boys. This middle part will probably be as long as the one with the boys. The ending will be exactly the same, just with slightly different dialogs, of course.

4) Tyler is just important on the "Ellie bitch" path. But Sophia can prevent this to a certain extent. Sophia has already made decisions to “educate” Ellie.

5) I can't say at this point in time.

6) Sam will be a very short scene with maybe 4-5 renders at the max. Vicky will be an actual event which I forgot to mention in my preview post in July 2022. Also don't know why.

7) Yes, after the sex scenes there will be still other scenes. And also multiple endings.

8) You can't say that across the board. It depends on the storyline and the character
 

BillieKimochi

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CREDIT - info71

Some questions and answers.

ME

1) From the 0.200 scenes it seems like you had to speed up what happens to Sophia and Ellie. Will this acceleration of events also happen in the next events of the day with Dylan?
2) If this acceleration of events is confirmed, do you intend to eliminate some playable days to reduce the time needed to make the game?
3) The next update will be the same scene but only with Ellie and without the Boys. You mentioned that the size of the update will be approximately similar to the previous one. You also said you will keep the .200 animations. In addition to these animations, will you have to add any new ones?
4) Did the changes you had to make to the plot also change the importance of some secondary characters? For example, Tayler seemed like he shouldn't have any particular impact on Sophia's story, but now it seems like he could be very important in future events. Monday?
5) Some time ago I asked you if you were also thinking about re-evaluating the timing in which Sophia will cheat with a full hetero relationship. Can we say that this evaluation has been and will be applied?
6) Will the addition of Sam and Vicky events on matchday 14 be mentioned with events dedicated to them or will they just be brief appearances within events dedicated to others, such as Dylan?
These last two questions are more of my considerations.
7) In the last playable days, will there only be wild sex events of Sophia, Dylan, Sam, Ellie or will they be dedicated to the consequences of what came before?
8) On the dirty course, will Sophia have the chance at the end of the game to emerge victorious, therefore not being discovered for her betrayals and living a happy life?

L&P ANSWERS


1) To be honest, this was due to the pressure to finally deliver “something more”. And I thought about slowing down a bit in terms of speed. The problem is simply that there are too many characters, which was a big mistake. But now I have them and I can't let some of them die in the middle of the game. I've written most of the scene with Dylan, but I still have to think about it a bit. So I can't and don't want to say anything about it this early on.

2) Here again, I can say that there are so many characters that there are new ones every day. But it gets even more varied, also through Dylan's own scenes later on.

3) So the next update is really only about the middle part in the sauna, this time without the boys. This middle part will probably be as long as the one with the boys. The ending will be exactly the same, just with slightly different dialogs, of course.

4) Tyler is just important on the "Ellie bitch" path. But Sophia can prevent this to a certain extent. Sophia has already made decisions to “educate” Ellie.

5) I can't say at this point in time.

6) Sam will be a very short scene with maybe 4-5 renders at the max. Vicky will be an actual event which I forgot to mention in my preview post in July 2022. Also don't know why.

7) Yes, after the sex scenes there will be still other scenes. And also multiple endings.

8) You can't say that across the board. It depends on the storyline and the character
Oh boy he still refuses to drop any character for the time being, gotta milk that cow
 

Mars88

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The problem is simply that there are too many characters, which was a big mistake. But now I have them and I can't let some of them die in the middle of the game.
2) Here again, I can say that there are so many characters that there are new ones every day. But it gets even more varied, also through Dylan's own scenes later on.
Either he has some kind of severe mental disorder, or he has officially admitted that he is milking. He understands how many characters and how long it will take to develop them, but he doesn't want to do anything about that.
 
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