VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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Some questions and answers.

ME

1) From the 0.200 scenes it seems like you had to speed up what happens to Sophia and Ellie. Will this acceleration of events also happen in the next events of the day with Dylan?
2) If this acceleration of events is confirmed, do you intend to eliminate some playable days to reduce the time needed to make the game?
3) The next update will be the same scene but only with Ellie and without the Boys. You mentioned that the size of the update will be approximately similar to the previous one. You also said you will keep the .200 animations. In addition to these animations, will you have to add any new ones?
4) Did the changes you had to make to the plot also change the importance of some secondary characters? For example, Tayler seemed like he shouldn't have any particular impact on Sophia's story, but now it seems like he could be very important in future events. Monday?
5) Some time ago I asked you if you were also thinking about re-evaluating the timing in which Sophia will cheat with a full hetero relationship. Can we say that this evaluation has been and will be applied?
6) Will the addition of Sam and Vicky events on matchday 14 be mentioned with events dedicated to them or will they just be brief appearances within events dedicated to others, such as Dylan?
These last two questions are more of my considerations.
7) In the last playable days, will there only be wild sex events of Sophia, Dylan, Sam, Ellie or will they be dedicated to the consequences of what came before?
8) On the dirty course, will Sophia have the chance at the end of the game to emerge victorious, therefore not being discovered for her betrayals and living a happy life?

L&P ANSWERS


1) To be honest, this was due to the pressure to finally deliver “something more”. And I thought about slowing down a bit in terms of speed. The problem is simply that there are too many characters, which was a big mistake. But now I have them and I can't let some of them die in the middle of the game. I've written most of the scene with Dylan, but I still have to think about it a bit. So I can't and don't want to say anything about it this early on.

2) Here again, I can say that there are so many characters that there are new ones every day. But it gets even more varied, also through Dylan's own scenes later on.

3) So the next update is really only about the middle part in the sauna, this time without the boys. This middle part will probably be as long as the one with the boys. The ending will be exactly the same, just with slightly different dialogs, of course.

4) Tyler is just important on the "Ellie bitch" path. But Sophia can prevent this to a certain extent. Sophia has already made decisions to “educate” Ellie.

5) I can't say at this point in time.

6) Sam will be a very short scene with maybe 4-5 renders at the max. Vicky will be an actual event which I forgot to mention in my preview post in July 2022. Also don't know why.

7) Yes, after the sex scenes there will be still other scenes. And also multiple endings.

8) You can't say that across the board. It depends on the storyline and the character

1. He was thinking of slowing down.
- I'm sincerely curious about this developer's mental state.

2. This developer admits that there are too many characters and it was his mistake, but he has no intention of reducing them.
- "10 years? No." 32 years.

3. Dylan scenes will continue to increase.
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4. The alternative versions have ‘exactly’ identical results.
- Why on earth do we need to see ‘the same result’?

5. Tyler is just important on the “Ellie bitch” path.
- Will the Tyler route be created now?

6. Number of renderings related to Sam: 4 to 5.
- It’s shorter than this front door event.

7. There are hidden events that are not mentioned.
- Is it just Vicki?

This developer apparently said he thought this game would be completed in five years, but he didn't keep his word.
After that, he said, he didn't want to spend another 10 years with this game.
Will those words be kept?

It can be completed within 3 years by uploading an update ‘one day (PD1)’ every 2.5 months.

Can you guys really trust this developer?

 

[crabboid]

5. Tyler is just important on the “Ellie bitch” path.
- Will the Tyler route be created now?

With the most recent update, and how much progress Tyler has made in such a relatively short amount of time, I’m actually kind of looking forward to the possibilities of Ellie’s prom now. Like maybe Tyler “distracts” Sophia so that Logan can seal the deal with Ellie without interference. Then there’s the whole culmination of Sam’s music lessons with Sophia after that.

I’m looking at probably 3-4 years of nothing in this game, between all the Patricia and Dylan stuff that I don’t care about, but assuming it’s still going by then, I’ll be eating good once we get to Monday.

 

[Boobybooba69]

Man the next update is just a waste of time

 

[Couto25]

Had a few back and forth with LP so I’m just summarising below.

Spoiler: Expectations for the rest of PD14

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I will go for Patricia and museum guys....I am done with Dylan....Go for sex with strangers. I just hope those scene will lead to sex and not just handjob and blowjob.

First sex of sophia should not be an incest scene. After that, no matter add 2/3 years of incest with Dylan and Ellie.

 

[fortuna95]

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[dbzf]

We can summarize this update as all of L&P's fucked up ideas and flaws piled up.
Sophia says with ellie that she shouldn't wash hair but then takes shower with ellie, i mean like whats the use of that dumb line if he going to fuck up his own cover up for needlessly changing her hairstyle.

Also someone please clear this up for me , did tyler finger sophia? Or she stopped him from entering her and he just played with her labia?

 

[hzjujk]

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Also someone please clear this up for me , did tyler finger sophia? Or she stopped him from entering her and he just played with her labia?

Why is that important?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

With the most recent update, and how much progress Tyler has made in such a relatively short amount of time, I’m actually kind of looking forward to the possibilities of Ellie’s prom now. Like maybe Tyler “distracts” Sophia so that Logan can seal the deal with Ellie without interference. Then there’s the whole culmination of Sam’s music lessons with Sophia after that.

I’m looking at probably 3-4 years of nothing in this game, between all the Patricia and Dylan stuff that I don’t care about, but assuming it’s still going by then, I’ll be eating good once we get to Monday.

Why would Sophia be at Ellie’s prom? Is she Sams date, no wait he doesn’t even go to there school. Is there a after prom party that Ellie said she would invite her mom and Tyler too? Actually I could see Sophia signing up to be one of the chaperones at the prom

 

[lockerxx]

Why would Sophia be at Ellie’s prom? Is she Sams date, no wait he doesn’t even go to there school. Is there a after prom party that Ellie said she would invite her mom and Tyler too?

i know Ellie will ditch Tyler and go with Sophie!!!

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

i know Ellie will ditch Tyler and go with Sophie!!!

Who does Dylan bring to the prom, Amber, Aunt Patricia, Christine or Maria?
Nope, he can’t forget his new homeless buddy

 

[crabboid]

Why would Sophia be at Ellie’s prom? Is she Sams date, no wait he doesn’t even go to there school. Is there a after prom party that Ellie said she would invite her mom and Tyler too?

Who said she’s going to be at the prom? Just that something might happen during or after the prom

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

(By the way, actual screenshots of L&P's answers would be appreciated as that'd make it more...official, if you know what I mean. How do we know you're not just interpreting his answers like that? )

 

[Couto25]

I also have stopped sponsoring this developer, so I cannot participate in the voting process.
I rely on the information provided by Dr.SigmundFap.

I calculate the instantaneous vote count by subtracting the previous cumulative vote count from the last cumulative vote count.

And below is the result.
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As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. The important thing is that they paid LP to see sex of Sophia with those characters, they were not freebies. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 11/12 years this way...I mean 12 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in the past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for sophia sex storyline.

 

[OgnjenaRavenWolf]

As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 12/13 years this way...I mean 13 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for Sophia sex storyline.

In short words : he prolonged story to milk thats why he introduced too many chars so focus can stay off Sophia because other project he milks from other Patreon accounts games he started here on the site.

INCSTR and AORRTA was like that. Except they actually finished few games many years ago then changed names or stated new projects under different accounts to milk ppl till they bleed...
But I agree with U

 

[packard1928]

How can this guy have 1900 paid members ! There are so many other deserving Dev's that produce a game with sex.... aterall that is what a porn game is suppose to have ! I do agree this has a godd story line. But man for as long as this has beed going.... this is not a good return for the money. I will never support this. I watch now just to see if by chance something DID happen. I have no hope there ever will. THe fan art is what keep this going...

 

[MixQQ]

How can this guy have 1900 paid members ! There are so many other deserving Dev's that produce a game with sex.... aterall that is what a porn game is suppose to have ! I do agree this has a godd story line. But man for as long as this has beed going.... this is not a good return for the money. I will never support this. I watch now just to see if by chance something DID happen. I have no hope there ever will. THe fan art is what keep this going...

true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls

 

[kalifrey20]

true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls

The problem also is that every time, he creates a new path letting all the previous ones unfinished, so the story never will go anywhere. So yes I agree with not waist money in patreon for this nosense

 

[Couto25]

true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls

yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.

 

[fortuna95]

How can this guy have 1900 paid members !

You must be registered to see the links

 

[hzjujk]

yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.

How do you know what the “people” pay L&P for? I ask because I haven't seen any figures on this.
After seven years of development, any newcomer should have enough information to know what the game is about and how slow the development speed is before they start paying.
Anyone who joins or stays with L&P at the highest developer levels should know exactly what to expect. Or it's a complete idiot who doesn't bother to ask what he can get in return before he invests.
That's why I think most of his supporters know exactly that they're getting a slow character development, a story with many characters and more eroticism than sex, and are happy with that for a while.