VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Holy Bacchus]

So, if somebody is supporter of this for only moderate 10$ a month, by now that person would give to dev about 300$.
Is to call those people retarded insult or euphemism?

Yes, it's definitely an insult.

And how to call people that give more than that?

People with a good job and disposable income, perhaps?

This whole concept is broken and it stimulates milking.

Of course it does, and not everyone is guilty of it. There's nothing to suggest L&P is guilty of it and up until recently, I believe, they were still a student doing this part-time and now they're full-time and perhaps more capable of doing it faster. Also, how good their hardware is is a major factor in development speed and the best shit is expensive, so not everyone can churn out renders quickly.

So take that judgmental attitude and dial it way down.

 

[lockerxx]

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What do you think this bonus stuff is about?

what a bomb!!!

 

[Old Dog]

what a bomb!!!

I have no idea about the bonus event as we have no evidence that either Claire or Marie maybe bi-sexual.
So maybe Sophia will fantasize about them if they wear a low cut top and short skirt
Also Claire and Marie work in the beauty parlor so maybe bumping into them at the sauna or even outside of work.All guess work

 

[afterlights]

I thought there was a hint when Sophia and Claire first met. Like a little bit of Sophia noticing something in Claire's reply.

 

[Old Dog]

I thought there was a hint when Sophia and Claire first met. Like a little bit of Sophia noticing something in Claire's reply.

I know that one of the masseurs girls said that they liked Sophia but can't remember if it was Zara or layla

 

[afterlights]

Zara, I believe, was the boob-toucher.

 

[Dom Toretto]

i think everyone need to stay calm lol. we all know it sucks the updates r slow coming out and we also know it sucks it taking forever for this story to build and they have to many people wanting to have sex with Sophia but with that but with that said what really can we do we can bitch about it and it probably wont do any good or we can take it as what it is which a group of people with a great story board and great charactors but with very poor equipment to produce it faster. so like the saying goes
it is what it is.

 

[AlienEDM]

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What do you think this bonus stuff is about?

That Vandheer Lorde should look for a masculine (maybe gay) game than.

 

[lockerxx]

I have no idea about the bonus event as we have no evidence that either Claire or Marie maybe bi-sexual.
So maybe Sophia will fantasize about them if they wear a low cut top and short skirt
Also Claire and Marie work in the beauty parlor so maybe bumping into them at the sauna or even outside of work.All guess work

something crazy like patricia and claire kissing each other or claire and her daughter.

 

[jnkstuff]

New to this game and site. Is there a way besides tons of saves to see what different actions will open up? Like an on the fly points redistributor ?

 

[sergey matveev]

Holy Bacchus
I think the player of Holy Bacchus mixed game with real life. If Sofia is a playable character, then she does not need any excuses or compelling motives for certain actions. The decision of the author and she will become a lesbian, bestiality, masochist, lover of humiliation or group sex ... If the author claims to create the most realistic game, it is necessary to take into account the characteristics of female psychology. It is enough for a man to see his bare chest or ass and he is ready for sexual exploits. A woman must convince herself that her betrayal is the only possible way of her future life. For some this is a faster process, for others it is a long process, but it is always there. This is the objective reality of the psychology of a married woman.
This woman, especially if she depends on her husband, and here are all signs that the family has financial well-being, its social status in society, Liam's merit, above all. I don’t think your teachers get more model business workers.
Will be:
1. Until the last opportunity to avoid direct betrayal and satisfy their wishes with improvised means (dildos and other toys). Or drown them in other ways: work, fitness, alcohol ...
2. To the last limit, he will hide any signs of a change in behavior, clothing style (especially if the husband works in the modeling business) and, of course, some shocking tricks, especially in public.
The penultimate and especially the latest update showed that Sofia is nothing more than a set of code characters in the game, and not a character close to reality.
Is it worth breaking spears, anticipating upcoming events. If the author collects a team and manages to master those areas of the game that are already indicated, then we will see, perhaps, a game masterpiece.
If this does not happen, then how the game can be three developments.
1. The game will be abandoned for some more financially interesting project.
2. It will also be awkward and slowly updated for another 5-7 years.
3. It will end in a crumpled form and all the harsh forms of debauchery with which fan art is filled can be realized by Sofia.
It may make sense to perceive this character as a game and not try to come up with his fate and behavior model. Anyway, the author will do it his own way. Users may or may not agree with him, but they cannot really change anything. Everyone has already made sure that he does not even listen to really sensible proposals that sound from experienced players or just people with good imagination. This is his game, his cross and his Calvary. He will do it himself and get what he deserves. Respect or oblivion.

 

[Matt1]

There are fans and supporters of the game who enjoy the Aiden and/or Bennett storylines.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I have no idea about the bonus event as we have no evidence that either Claire or Marie maybe bi-sexual.
So maybe Sophia will fantasize about them if they wear a low cut top and short skirt
Also Claire and Marie work in the beauty parlor so maybe bumping into them at the sauna or even outside of work.All guess work

The only thing I could find was that Claire has a relationship stat (currently unused), and that Marie/Claire in DoL are tenant/Landlady. Also that Marie has a boyfriend (Devon). So it's indicative, but not actual evidence.

Claire was very complimentary about Sophia's appearance on day 2, but that could just be her style as a hairdresser. But on the other hand, she's a good friend of Patricia's, which could mean she's up for anything.

I suspect like Morello, it's one of those things that we've been told so little about that we're grasping at straws trying to piece things together, particularly if it appears to fit our favourite route.

I know that one of the masseurs girls said that they liked Sophia but can't remember if it was Zara or layla

Vicky is one of Layla's usuals, so it was Sophia with Zara. Best I could find was this:

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[roro]

Holy Bacchus
I think the player of Holy Bacchus mixed game with real life. If Sofia is a playable character, then she does not need any excuses or compelling motives for certain actions. The decision of the author and she will become a lesbian, bestiality, masochist, lover of humiliation or group sex ... If the author claims to create the most realistic game, it is necessary to take into account the characteristics of female psychology. It is enough for a man to see his bare chest or ass and he is ready for sexual exploits. A woman must convince herself that her betrayal is the only possible way of her future life. For some this is a faster process, for others it is a long process, but it is always there. This is the objective reality of the psychology of a married woman.
This woman, especially if she depends on her husband, and here are all signs that the family has financial well-being, its social status in society, Liam's merit, above all. I don’t think your teachers get more model business workers.
Will be:
1. Until the last opportunity to avoid direct betrayal and satisfy their wishes with improvised means (dildos and other toys). Or drown them in other ways: work, fitness, alcohol ...
2. To the last limit, he will hide any signs of a change in behavior, clothing style (especially if the husband works in the modeling business) and, of course, some shocking tricks, especially in public.
The penultimate and especially the latest update showed that Sofia is nothing more than a set of code characters in the game, and not a character close to reality.
Is it worth breaking spears, anticipating upcoming events. If the author collects a team and manages to master those areas of the game that are already indicated, then we will see, perhaps, a game masterpiece.
If this does not happen, then how the game can be three developments.
1. The game will be abandoned for some more financially interesting project.
2. It will also be awkward and slowly updated for another 5-7 years.
3. It will end in a crumpled form and all the harsh forms of debauchery with which fan art is filled can be realized by Sofia.
It may make sense to perceive this character as a game and not try to come up with his fate and behavior model. Anyway, the author will do it his own way. Users may or may not agree with him, but they cannot really change anything. Everyone has already made sure that he does not even listen to really sensible proposals that sound from experienced players or just people with good imagination. This is his game, his cross and his Calvary. He will do it himself and get what he deserves. Respect or oblivion.

You take this game too seriously, it's only a game (an incest porn game!), not a Pushkin's or Dostoyevsky's grand novel that the author can publicly gain respect from. When L&P said it's going to be realistic, you have to remember that everything is relative. In no realistic world, a woman like Sophia will have sex with her son and daughter, there's just no way for it to happen. But this is an Erotic game, soon (or later?) to be a porn game, and it's realistic approach is noticeably higher than of the typical incest game.

 

[nexer]

You take this game too seriously, it's only a game (an incest porn game!), not a Pushkin's or Dostoyevsky's grand novel that the author can publicly gain respect from. When L&P said it's going to be realistic, you have to remember that everything is relative. In no realistic world, a woman like Sophia will have sex with her son and daughter, there's just no way for it to happen. But this is an Erotic game, soon (or later?) to be a porn game, and it's realistic approach is noticeably higher than of the typical incest game.

I think L&P has touched on the subject.

If a VN copy the real life I don't think any Dev could make enough money. A game is a, how to say, "social taboos free" - zone.
Quite often we read about female teacher/young-students. And this is what comes out in the press. In the real life, I could say the situation is much more widespread.
Now, within a family, in real life, we find more or less prudish mothers. For example, a nudist family. Careful, I'm not talking about incest. But, so far, Sophia didn't cross the red line.

 

[sergey matveev]

nexer
it is me who I perceive as a game, not a life situation, and welcome the rational pursuit of fame. Pushkin wanted to be famous and the artist making comics and the car mechanic want fame. For fame is the sister of success and the mother of financial solvency. I believe that this is absolutely certain. Show me a person who will argue with this statement.
Therefore, if the author of this project is successful, it will be much easier for him to receive sponsorship assistance in creating the next game.
Now the situation in the game is developing according to all the canons of a porn game with sluggish action.
On the 11th day, she hardly forces herself to wash herself in the shower with her daughter, on the same day, completely unmotivated, takes off her underpants in a restaurant, in the presence of many strangers, then the situation with Zach in the solarium, when she calmly shows an almost naked body in underwear in front of the unfamiliar student, then showing underwear in the classroom, again, the motives for her consent to this demand of Aiden not clear, the situation in the soul with Ally are. Perhaps the sequence is slightly disturbed, but all actions occur in an extremely limited period of time.
Those. there are all signs of porn, when the meaning and logic are not important and the actions of the characters are explained solely by the belonging of the product to a certain category - XXX.
This is me for those who insist on the maximum realism of this game.
The speed of degradation of Sofia has increased many times and this would be very noticeable if the speed of updates became adequate.
It seems to me that another sign that the game is turning from an erotic novel into a standard porn toy is that long uninformative dialogues, meaningless unnatural actions take place between the characters, against their background is Sofia’s internal dialogue, in which she persuades herself to seduce herself, becomes the main engine of plot development.
This is an ordinary average game with well-detailed characters.
Therefore, the seriousness with which consumers discuss prospects and fantasize about possible options for the depraved actions of Sofia is amusing. This is just a game. Everything will be as it will be.

 

[Alleykatt]

nexer
it is me who I perceive as a game, not a life situation, and welcome the rational pursuit of fame. Pushkin wanted to be famous and the artist making comics and the car mechanic want fame. For fame is the sister of success and the mother of financial solvency. I believe that this is absolutely certain. Show me a person who will argue with this statement.
Therefore, if the author of this project is successful, it will be much easier for him to receive sponsorship assistance in creating the next game.
Now the situation in the game is developing according to all the canons of a porn game with sluggish action.
On the 11th day, she hardly forces herself to wash herself in the shower with her daughter, on the same day, completely unmotivated, takes off her underpants in a restaurant, in the presence of many strangers, then the situation with Zach in the solarium, when she calmly shows an almost naked body in underwear in front of the unfamiliar student, then showing underwear in the classroom, again, the motives for her consent to this demand of Aiden not clear, the situation in the soul with Ally are. Perhaps the sequence is slightly disturbed, but all actions occur in an extremely limited period of time.
Those. there are all signs of porn, when the meaning and logic are not important and the actions of the characters are explained solely by the belonging of the product to a certain category - XXX.
This is me for those who insist on the maximum realism of this game.
The speed of degradation of Sofia has increased many times and this would be very noticeable if the speed of updates became adequate.
It seems to me that another sign that the game is turning from an erotic novel into a standard porn toy is that long uninformative dialogues, meaningless unnatural actions take place between the characters, against their background is Sofia’s internal dialogue, in which she persuades herself to seduce herself, becomes the main engine of plot development.
This is an ordinary average game with well-detailed characters.
Therefore, the seriousness with which consumers discuss prospects and fantasize about possible options for the depraved actions of Sofia is amusing. This is just a game. Everything will be as it will be.

That's such an awesome post Sergey. I urge everyone to read it out loud in a very strong Russian accent.

 

[Alley_Cat]

That's such an awesome post Sergey. I urge everyone to read it out loud in a very strong Russian accent.

I was wondering if you'd make a reappearance .

 

[nexer]

Therefore, the seriousness with which consumers discuss prospects and fantasize about possible options for the depraved actions of Sofia is amusing. This is just a game. Everything will be as it will be.

I've written this before. If you put yourself in the shoes of L&P, writing the textscript has to have a logical line. Most of the games have one. Nobody write a single line of text forgetting everything he's written before. True, they have their own logic . But if you deal your entire life with bimbos and write a textscript about a lady, maybe, he's going to use the same stereotypes. It's an example, each with his own logic..
Now, about this game. Let's forget about "DayX". Good, bad, everyone's taste. Maybe a 1/4Day1 + 1/4Day10 + 1/4Day20 would have been another option.
What is important, IMO, is development of corruption in the game. And this it's not lineal, it's like Stock exchange graphic's evolution. One day you are strong, another day weak. Important it's the average evolution. One day she goes out with friends, gets drunk, let a friend touch her. The next day she's embarrassed, and she tries to stop everything.

 

[Alley_Cat]

...
What is important, IMO, is development of corruption in the game. And this it's not lineal, it's like Stock exchange graphic's evolution. One day you are strong, another day weak. Important it's the average evolution. One day she goes out with friends, gets drunk, let a friend touch her. The next day she's embarrassed, and she tries to stop everything.

The trick I've found, when I'm about to do something stupid, is to have the support of those around you, which is why I think the Dylan route will necessarily take longer - Sophia along this route is doing numerous risky things with inadequate support - the same complaint I make with Dylan's problems with Aiden.

Contrasted with the Ellie route, where Liam is now starting to find out about it, and is okay with it. He's even finally fixing the bathroom lock. And it's not even about sex yet, but about supporting each other through potentially difficult and confusing times.