ancienregimele

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Idk. I agree. This "hard core", INCEST story should be concentrating more on her attraction to her son and daughter and their friends and her degeneration into putting out to them, not random blackamiling adult men
Well, that's one POV but I prefer blackmail, (in fact anything except bestiality) to incest, which isn't interesting to me, at any & all times, so there's another, just as valid POV. We can all voice opinions here. It's what happens in most forums but whether they have much influence on the development of the game is highly doubtful.
 

Poser_Voyeur

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I wanna skip the whole them snogging in club and seeing each other for coffee, smacks too much of NTR for my tastes. But in doing that I miss the shower scenes and guessing any further relationship development.
How is NTR for Ellie to snog Logan at the club. Ellie was not previously going out with anyone and at that point, had nt yet got "friendly" with Julia.

I agree that going forward, I my playthrough, Ellie will dump Logan at the next available opportunity. Which Alley Cat has noted is on playable day 16.
 

Alley_Cat

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How is NTR for Ellie to snog Logan at the club. Ellie was not previously going out with anyone and at that point, had nt yet got "friendly" with Julia.

I agree that going forward, I my playthrough, Ellie will dump Logan at the next available opportunity. Which Alley Cat has noted is on playable day 16.
Actually all I said was that's when I believe the Logan route starts as a branch, so likely when they can get serious and official. We'll see Ellie again on day 14, so depending on what happens in the meantime (like how the coffee date happens during the bikini fashion show), Ellie and Logan may have already parted ways, if you chose the Ellie/Julia events so Ellie decides she'll dump Logan if he has a problem with her relationship with Jules.
 
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Qixoni

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Well, that's one POV but I prefer blackmail, (in fact anything except bestiality) to incest, which isn't interesting to me, at any & all times, so there's another, just as valid POV. We can all voice opinions here. It's what happens in most forums but whether they have much influence on the development of the game is highly doubtful.
There is an interracial score marker in Sophia's board. Kind of interesting that só far it's the only marker not explored, at all
 

Alley_Cat

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There is an interracial score marker in Sophia's board. Kind of interesting that só far it's the only marker not explored, at all
Fairly sure the Vicky event will cover that, since we meet DeShithead (the black basketballer boyfriend) then, which has the potential to lead to the swingers event which is apparently a thing. Which is why I don't count the Vicky event as a lesbian one.
 

PaxHadrian17

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alright, lets put the arguments to rest 1st of all, its not soft core porn... it shows penetration...
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as well as a long dragged out trail to incest...
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So lets cut the soft core porn bs. What this game is is a 3yr tease. either the producer is too embarrassed to actually go all the way with his characters or he is milking his patrons with the dragged out tease
L&P has always said that this is an erotic VN. It IS a slow burn with character development and relationships that evolve. These screen shots represent different character scenes based on how the story develops and the choices that have to be made for the scene to be available 'in game.'
There are more than 8,200 images in this VN and you chose these 11 ... a proof that this is more than soft core porn, as though these 11 images represent the totality of AWAM. I could take the same number of images and say that this is a school VN or a car VN or a business VN or a travel VN. If I did - I'd be taking the images out of context the same way you did.
Yes - AWAM has a number of erotic scenes and these will continue to get hotter through time and yes - there will be penetration - all within the context of character development based on the choice each one of us make, and that story will take time to play out.
No one is forcing you to be part of the journey. If you don't like the 'tease' - F95 has a multitude of VNs that offer hard core scenes very early in their stories. Perhaps some of these are more to your liking.
As for me - I'm looking forward to the next release in roughly 2-3 weeks.
 

cakeny

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Well the graphic pictures and the fact that we're given choices to move the main character's story along, suggest that its a game, not a visual slow burn novel
It's kinda the definition of a visual novel. Think Choose Your Adventure books that were popular in the 80's.
 
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JohnnyP

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Yeah it is taking a long time, but I think the development in this game is more realistic and pretty compelling.
 

Captain Bipto

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It's kinda the definition of a visual novel. Think Choose Your Adventure books that were popular in the 80's.
oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
 

Alley_Cat

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oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
I believe you're the only one recently calling it a porn game, soft-core, hard-core or otherwise. So in terms of proving things, all you managed to do is to prove it's not something no-one else is claiming it to be.

This is L&P's own description from Patreon "I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism, combined with a slowly developing story full of lust and passion, to create an aesthetic, realistic adult game", which is why some of us refer to it as an erotic novel, as opposed to the porn game others think it is.

And as for incest, how can this be considered an incest game when the sex scenes are with the husband? That during the Ellie/Julia scene, Jules gets further than Ellie precisely because they're not related? And that the other major character on the straight route is Sam, also not related to Sophia, yet the second highest male in the favourite character poll? Yes the game will have incest, but it also has non-incest content too.
 

cakeny

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oh man, 1st you guys say its soft core porn, proved that wrong, proved it has a heavy base in incest. And, if you think a choose your own adventure book is a novel, I don't think you're old enough to be on this forum
This is the first I have interjected into this argument. Secondly, I was reading Choose Your Adventures 30 years ago.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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Don't shit on Choose Your Own Adventure books. I read Moby Dick for the first time a few years ago and it was, without question, the worst novel I've ever read. I would happily read a Choose Your Own Adventure story before ever reading a single page of Moby Dick ever again.
 
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