GingerSweetGirl

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There is hardly any backlash(on his patron page)as a lot of patrons are happy and drooling over the Dylan/Sophia and Aiden/Sophia events.
Right, so where it counts most he's getting support.

Everything is going to come down to how this update is received once it's released. The only time patrons will revolt is if the actual update us underwhelming.
 

Talcum Powder

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What people here think is a lack of organization is part of the creative process for L&P.
And they will never, never, agree with Him on this.
... But even here these goals are subordinated to what he considers to be much more important. HIS way of telling the story.
And they will never agree with him on that either.
I think a fair criticism of L&P's "creative process" is that they are not using an appropriate "creative process".

Writing, painting, illustration, etching/printing and so on are generative art forms. From nothing something is created. Photography is not - the something must exist in order to be captured.

Given the attention to lighting and all the camera settings, depth of field and deep/shallow focus, I wonder if L&P's background is in photography and not a generative art form.

Even before the advent of digital, a photographer could set up their subject and shoot two or three or four rolls of film, develop them and print contact sheets and look them over, find the right/best images to print at full size.

In generative art you simply cannot do this - you must work out the plan in advance and stick to it. That is not to say there aren't opportunities for improvisation or adjustment along the way, but a painter doesn't change the size of the canvas half the way into a painting, a sculptor can't increase the size of stone they're using. And a print maker sure as shit ain't carving into their block with out a really firmly established idea of the end product.

Also, L&P seems completely oblivious to a hard fact about generative art-making: The two most important lines in any drawing are the ones you don't make and the ones you take out.
 
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Talcum Powder

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I quite like your point of view.
I totally understand what you mean.
For me, you have to distinguish the creative process from the organization.

In the creative process, it is normal that the ideas flow and that it is confused, badly arranged, there is enthusiasm to put a lot of things. In this part, we allow ourselves complete freedom.
Then comes the organization process, the ideas collected, we sort them (sorting, it's putting everything in place and also throwing away) and then we can move forward with a guideline and we can check that what we do corresponds to what was expected.
Of course there is still room to change things, but normally there are no major changes.
Yes, all of this.
 

hzjujk

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In generative art you simply cannot do this - you must work out the plan in advance and stick to it. That is not to say there aren't opportunities for improvisation or adjustment along the way, but a painter doesn't change the size of the canvas half the way into a painting, a sculptor can't increase the size of stone they're using. And a print maker sure as shit ain't carving into their block with out a really firmly established idea of the end product.
That's not true. I understand what you mean. But painter in particular is a bad example. There are many paintings in which one can prove that they have been painted over or changed many times. The "Mona Lisa" is an exceptional example. Loeonardo da Vinci changed the details again and again until the end of his life. Although I definitely don't want to see L&P compared to Leonardo!
 
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hmc15

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Can someone explain me the difference between "Created Scenes" and "Rendered Scenes"?
I'm probably understanding something wrong else this is ridiculous at this point
Might also refer to storytelling. Created scenes could mean that the writingand dialogue are completely done and what's left is to convert to images
 

Leldorin

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Maybe this doesn't mean anything, but in the script, when Patricia mention the Sunday horse riding event, it is not tied to anything, there are no conditions for that dialogue to happen. So it seems logic to expect that it will happen no matter what.
Obviously, he can always limit or condition that later on (i.e. Patricia calling to cancel or not calling at all etc).
But like you I found strange the you have to be in Aiden's task route to have the event. Not being on Aiden's task route could make a little bit more sense because then it could be the alternative event to the horse riding (i.e. Aiden's 5th task). But in that case we gonna have 3 tasks in the space of 4 (real) days, maybe too much?

On a side note, the horse riding happens on Sunday, while the PD 14 is a Saturday I think. Otherwise Patricia has to call Sophia some time on PD 13 (Friday) and we skip one day.
And in the evening of PD 14 we have the museum guy event (because the museum is closed). So either it will be at end of the horse riding event (PD 14 is a sunday) or before the horse event (PD 14 is Saturday, and PD 15 sunday).
In that case (and in any case) the sentence:

can be a little ambiguous. Is he meaning also end of day 14 or just day 14 in general?
Not that it makes a big difference, we know that it won't a sex scene. Also it depends on his concept of hot scene, once we will see his idea of hot scene for the Mayer's boy maybe we can think about something ;)
You’re totally right on the quote . It can be interpreted in different ways (I was thinking the exact same thing as you did while reading it)

If I misremembered the date of the riding event, that was a pretty long rambling for nothing.:whistle:

On an other note, the “hot hetero events” being especially for end of day 13 and 14, means that nothing crazy will happen for the Sam concert event.
I can see a kiss and/or some boobs grabbed at best.

As for the kids on the second side job, I don’t know what to think of it.
I don’t care if they are under age, this are just computer generated characters
not real people.
The thing is, that even if it’s not supposed to be a real story it’s at least supposed to be “realistic”.
So all I can see “realistically” speaking is, the kids having a bonner at most.
What I would really like however would be for Sophia to “corrupt” the mom. I don’t give two shit about the daughter (a young girl who’s attracted to Sophia, how original...).
But on the contrary, if it could be about Sophia loosening up the mom a little, at least that would something we don’t see often in this game (Sophia doing the corruption and not the other way around).

Well,as you said, we’ll see what happens in the next update.
And for end of day 13 and day 14, we’ll just have to wait. (Between a year and a half and 3 years...:ROFLMAO::confused:)
 
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I'm curious about "Spanking" as listed as part of the genre. I assume it's not in the "Headmaster" vein, but is it just a single butt slap as with Sophia and Patricia stretching after they run in the park?
 
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xxxorro

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I'm curious about "Spanking" as listed as part of the genre. I assume it's not in the "Headmaster" vein, but is it just a single butt slap as with Sophia and Patricia stretching after they run in the park?
Also the yoga event, always Patricia. ;)
Actually, who chooses the tags for the games? The moderator that starts the thread? If so, maybe he/she just classified the slapping as spanking.

On an other note, the “hot hetero events” being especially for end of day 13 and 14, means that nothing crazy will happen for the Sam concert event.
I can see a kiss and/or some boobs grabbed at best.
Well he says next 3 PDs, so 12 is also included. But what happens at the concert or after is (allegedly) less hotter than Sophia/Dylan PD 13 and PD 14 (probably the museum). But here we are really milking every possible hint and word of his sentences ;)
 
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