VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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Talcum Powder

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gingersweetgirl said:
I think there is a persistent language barrier in this conversation. I get the impression that Bane reads L&P (and us) very literally, while I (and many native English speakers) infer more things from L&P. So I don't really know how to help this conversation.
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Yes, there is a lot of nuance being lost in translation - literal translation vs actual English usage.

gingersweetgirl said:
Here's what I'll say though Bane: Yes everyone makes mistakes, but when it comes to L&P we're talking about "mistakes". L&P strikes me as the kind of guy who looks at his renders, and then looks at them longer, and then looks at them even longer until he finds a "mistake". I put "mistake" in quotes because I don't know how serious to take his ideas of mistakes. I seriously doubt he has deep flaws in any of his images that he renders- but I can totally see him obsessing over the smallest detail and calling it a "mistake". This process almost certainly costs him days for each render that he obsesses over.
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This paragraph of yours makes me think of a scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off (John Hugh's best movie IMHO). During the art museum sequence, Cameron is staring at George Seurat's
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. He's captivated by the painting as a whole but as he focuses in more, he starts to see that the "colors" he's seeing aren't really the colors that are there, they are actually different colored individual dots of paint which in proximity to one another trick our eye into seeing a single color [check Mark Rothko for more on color/sense manipulation]. The camera alternates between Cameron's face and the painting's surface. Each cut pulls in ever closer on the painting's surface and Cameron's eyes. The closer we get to Cameron's eyes the more intense his focus and expressions become. The closer you get to the painting's surface the less representative everything gets, the more abstract it gets, until you end up so close to the canvas that the daubs of color blur together and there is no longer any representation left. We no longer see the cheek of a child standing next to her mother under a tree in the mid-ground of an epic outdoor scene.

L&P needs to realize that each pixel within each shot within each scene within each event within each update within each sub-plot within this project does not carry the same weight as the look on Sophia's face as she watches Ellie rub one out.
 
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ashitanojoe said:
Why don't you form a team with other fan art devs and create scenes of the upcomming events? Like a fan AWAM's unofficial version? So, we enjoy AWAM twice. Something similar to what people do with Dragon Ball, there are a lot of fan series between releases. :)
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As for me it very difficult to find time to create and render a scene. My GPU is not powerful enough to create a AWAM scene(Environments are huge and they take lot of VRAM).That means render time is too much for me to handle. Asset reorganization for each new place L&P creates is not easy either
Alley_Cat said:
The problem with that is that there aren't enough of us working on asset identification in order to do something as simple as Sophia walking down the top floor hallway, or walking into the living room. Or the front lawn

All the assets required for her bedroom haven't even been entirely identified. To my knowledge none of the things on her vanity are known.
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considering the things in her vanity table, I think I identified most of them
 
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gkdanuka said:
As for me it very difficult to find time to create and render a scene. My GPU is not powerful enough to create a AWAM scene(Environments are huge and they take lot of VRAM).That means render time is too much for me to handle. Asset reorganization for each new place L&P creates is not easy either

considering the things in her vanity table, I think I identified most of them
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To my knowledge I don't know of anyone that has bothered to render the photo of Dylan and Ellie that's on the vanity, and it's things like that, that when missing, break immersion.

But then that comes down to player engagement. If L&P was more supportive of the community here, he could have a lot more fans. Both of the devs I'm a patron of are active here, and have told me what assets they use in their games.
 
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Our friend now has an assistant, an American, who helps him with the translation. Excellent!
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I think I will start with the last part Thu or Fri this week. But there are 43 Word pages of text to translate plus program. Then I have also to prepare the new features into the new version. You will have the option to cheat now, to name your savegames, to view the walkthrough and character directory directly in the menu, plus there will be a new update button where you will be able wo download only the new stuff without downloading the whole game again and again. This will give me the option to release updates faster. And I don't want to make any mistake anywhere. So, there's still a lot of work in front of me. I will have an American who will help me with the translation via Discord. But it's absolutely impossible to finish this all in only 1,5 weeks! Of course, I'm working every day around 11 hours on it now. But I think first half of June is the more realistic prediction.
 
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bayrischman said:
sam is a slimy guy.
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Yes, it comes off a little slimy. But maybe he's just a total romantic.
When you look at his arrogant and hurtful grin at the pool event, that's an expression on his face that can't be ignored. If you are in love, we assume that this applies to Sam, you can be selfish. But that expression shows my opinion more than that. It shows the contempt for the loser, Dylan, about whom he knows that Dylan is also pissed off that Sam approaches his mother in an inadmissible way and touches her. It's an expression like, "I know you're upset, but there is nothing you can do about it". No friend would do that.
Now one can argue that Dylan is a stupid, perverted loser who deserves it. But Dylan loves and respects his mother.
And even if he thinks of his mother that tits are tits, at least in Sophia's eyes it makes him a lovable, stupid and
perverted loser.
I don't know whether this quality of Sam's character will also have an impact on the further story or whether the
developer only gives the players the opportunity to rate the character Sam only for themselves.
 
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hzjujk said:
Yes, it comes off a little slimy. But maybe he's just a total romantic.
When you look at his arrogant and hurtful grinat the pool event, that's an expression on his face that can't be ignored. If you are in love, we assume that this applies to Sam, you can be selfish. But that expression shows my opinion more than that. It shows the contempt for the loser, Dylan, about whom he knows that Dylan is also pissed off that Sam approaches his mother in an inadmissible way and touches her. It's an expression like, "I know you're upset, but there is nothing you can do about it". No friend would do that.
Now one can argue that Dylan is a stupid, perverted loser who deserves it. But Dylan loves and respects his mother.
And even if he thinks of his mother that tits are tits, at least in Sophia's eyes it makes him a lovable, stupid and
perverted loser.
I don't know whether this quality of Sam's character will also have an impact on the further story or whether the
developer only gives the players the opportunity to rate the character Sam only for themselves.
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I think that's the reason why, although I won't get the event in my playthrough, I'm so curious Dylan doesn't get an invite to the concert. Seems to show a breakup in the friendship that's the complete opposite of Ellie and Jules.

Meanwhile, what's a "grinat"?
 
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Alley_Cat said:
I think that's the reason why, although I won't get the event in my playthrough, I'm so curious Dylan doesn't get an invite to the concert. Seems to show a breakup in the friendship that's the complete opposite of Ellie and Jules.
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I also noticed that Dylan was not invited to the first live concert. It's not comradely at all, I think so.
 
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Alley_Cat said:
I think that's the reason why, although I won't get the event in my playthrough, I'm so curious Dylan doesn't get an invite to the concert. Seems to show a breakup in the friendship that's the complete opposite of Ellie and Jules.
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I'm just as surprised! Dylan is his best buddy. Why wouldn't Dylan want to go there too? Or what about his mother? Sophia takes Ellie and Patricia, but doesn't ask Amber if she's going to or if they're meeting there? And why is Patricia going with them anyway? What has she had to do with Sam (so far)?
 
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There's a possibility that Ellie and Patricia won't go to his gig, maybe they find something better to do and Sophia ends up going alone
 
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