VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

[Sabertooth__]

Ok, so I play The Office, and it is nowhere near the level of quality of AWAM. You hear that Lust&Passion, that's an unqualified compliment, so don't say I never do or say nice things about you.

The Office is sloppy and hamfisted, and that scene only adds to my opinion. Such a scene in AWAM would be beneath of quality that we expect from L&P. Here we are debating the merits of a romper that Sophia is wearing and criticizing it for a perception that it diminishes the efforts towards realism that we want from the game. If Sophia were to parade around in a skirt/dress that short, while addressing an audience with a remotely controlled sex toy inserted, this thread would erupt into mutiny. Everyone has their kinks, but we shouldn't expect every game to include every kink. If you like the fantasy of something like that, then by all means knock yourself out, but please don't bring it to AWAM. Go play The Office, a game where you can check your expectations at the door and just enjoy a mindless fantasy (and I don't mean that as an insult).

I would like say something regarding this.
That whether a scene works or not totally depends on how it is presented.

I have always hated an art class scene. I played it in 5-6 games and each and everytime it came off as cheap,pathetic, logic less and unpleasant scene. When I came to know that the scene was an art class model one I was extremely disappointed, I played the scene and it was wonderful, it didn't come off like the others. It genuinely was a great scene.

The kind of scenes in Awam are also present in other games, but awam stands a cut above them because of the execution. L&P's scenes don't come off as cheap as they are in other games. Most scenes L&P has done won't work in other games at all. So i don't rule out anything from this game. I just believe if he can execute it well any scene is plausible.

So it isn't unreasonable to imagine a scene with vibe or anything else that may come to his mind.

 

[Scarlet56]

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Patricia picks Sophia up to drive to the rock bar where Sam and his band will have their first real performance.

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Patricia is sexy as hell.
It's the dessert of the evening.

On the other hand, Sophia cut out a pair of curtains, didn't she?
Did she have nothing more to wear?
And don't tell me that she will have shoes in her bag and that there is room.

 

[mad_hungarian]

It gets the goods out in Sam's view. Also, easily slipped off and on. Speed is life.

...and smooth is fast.

 

[Scarlet56]

Don't know where to download this game for android? so Dylan Wiggrvl is in the park .. otherwise he always loses no matter what I do (((does my adnago have a current problem or claw too?)

You know that it is not necessary to create several accounts to come and say exactly the same thing as with the 2 previous ones?
A little "facepalm?"
Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[NewTricks]

I'm laughing my ass off at how quickly this thread devolved into the meanest episode of Project Runway.

 

[ancienregimele]

Pls check where you are now... taste and class never appeared on this thread with the exception of GingerSweetGirl and 2 o 3 other people that barely can see here, dev for sure cannot be different from his audience

You're right, sadly but this game/VN was so close, at one time, to fulfilling the promise of the mission statement/promo blurb, written by L&P himself. Over 3 years ago, when I started playing, I thought that at last I'd found an erotic game, written by an adult, for adults, which nevertheless would still be a welcome departure from RL. Now it's still being written by an adult but it's for teenagers & pre-teens. As I've said lately, I don't blame them, I even used to be one, so I know what they want, (up to a point) & if they're paying L&P's bills, he must feel obliged to cater for them.

So, along with the massive jugs, "mutton dressed as lamb" revealing clothes, endless potential teenaged sexual partners, genuine shota etc., what else can we expect? "Loli," we already have in some form, with possibly much more to come. Talk of pregnancy is heard sometimes.....aargh!

 

[nexer]

Patricia will think Sophia dressed that way for her, and Sam will think it was for him.
The question is, who did Sophia dress up for? and if Patricia realizes that Sam wants some.
Anyway, I think we have a book for everything, including: "How to get someone's attention without appearing desperate"

 

[Old Dog]

You're right, sadly but this game/VN was so close, at one time, to fulfilling the promise of the mission statement/promo blurb, written by L&P himself. Over 3 years ago, when I started playing, I thought that at last I'd found an erotic game, written by an adult, for adults, which nevertheless would still be a welcome departure from RL. Now it's still being written by an adult but it's for teenagers & pre-teens. As I've said lately, I don't blame them, I even used to be one, so I know what they want, (up to a point) & if they're paying L&P's bills, he must feel obliged to cater for them.

So, along with the massive jugs, "mutton dressed as lamb" revealing clothes, endless potential teenaged sexual partners, genuine shota etc., what else can we expect? "Loli," we already have in some form, with possibly much more to come. Talk of pregnancy is heard sometimes.....aargh!

I agree with you and I have had these same thoughts myself for quite sometime now as I didn't like the direction that the game now seems to be going.
I am no longer a patron so please don't ask me for teasers as I cannot provide them.

 

[t3alqdansam]

Sophia didn't need a romper with mystical boob pockets that is simultaneously form fitting and baggy to look hot. There are plenty of assets that could have replicated real world fashion and incorporated physics to make an attractive outfit that could be worn to a garage band's first show. You may think it's a hot outfit, I won't argue with your personal taste, the issue is that it's a stupid looking outfit because it's so unrealistic and overly sexual.

I am not disagreeing with you GingerSweetGirl. I am just saying for the fact that "class" has disappeared from the game so why does he care now. I have also seen plenty of women make incredibly poor choices of outfits all over the world. Why not Sophia? Then, if we place this in the context that she was just, essentially naked, in front of a bunch of teenagers, was groped by Aiden (almost to third base I might add), and went a bit overboard in her side jobs (whatever nanananana not listening, eyes closed) L&P is starting to push the envelope. In the previous update she almost did a strip tease in prison. Class, taste all by the wayside. He is pushing Sophia into the path of someone else. Even in the GW path he is driving it, if I read Alley_Cat correctly. Just sayin'!

Just FYI. My tastes tend to run Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly elegant. The rocker outfit with jeans, not shredded denim, would have been fine for me.

 

[Old Dog]

I am not disagreeing with you GingerSweetGirl. I am just saying for the fact that "class" has disappeared from the game so why does he care now. I have also seen plenty of women make incredibly poor choices of outfits all over the world. Why not Sophia? Then, if we place this in the context that she was just, essentially naked, in front of a bunch of teenagers, was groped by Aiden (almost to third base I might add), and went a bit overboard in her side jobs (whatever nanananana not listening, eyes closed) L&P is starting to push the envelope. In the previous update she almost did a strip tease in prison. Class, taste all by the wayside. He is pushing Sophia into the path of someone else. Even in the GW path he is driving it, if I read Alley_Cat correctly. Just sayin'!

Just FYI. My tastes tend to run Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly elegant. The rocker outfit with jeans, not shredded denim, would have been fine for me.

Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly, elegant,classy,chic the list goes on.
Audrey Hepburn happens to be one of my favorite actresses along with Katherine Hepburn

 

[t3alqdansam]

I would like say something regarding this.
That whether a scene works or not totally depends on how it is presented.

I have always hated an art class scene. I played it in 5-6 games and each and everytime it came off as cheap,pathetic, logic less and unpleasant scene. When I came to know that the scene was an art class model one I was extremely disappointed, I played the scene and it was wonderful, it didn't come off like the others. It genuinely was a great scene.

The kind of scenes in Awam are also present in other games, but awam stands a cut above them because of the execution. L&P's scenes don't come off as cheap as they are in other games. Most scenes L&P has done won't work in other games at all. So i don't rule out anything from this game. I just believe if he can execute it well any scene is plausible.

So it isn't unreasonable to imagine a scene with vibe or anything else that may come to his mind.

I agree with exception. Not all his work is wow! I will not go down the path of that BS scene from the last update. That is far enough and we all know what I mean. He has failed and he has succeeded. We hope he will be in the success column more. His artwork is better than others for the most part (If KillJoys, wynlard, Pixil, Mando Logica, Jack Adams, St-pol got into actual production they all are as good IMO). Not really a question there. His writing however took a hit last update. Let's see what he does this update. No pressure. He is slowing production to the point of frustration.

Basic successful sales = Under promise and Over deliver. He is going with Over promise and Under deliver.

 

[Deleted member 1536527]

So ummm, I only recently discovered this game. Don't know much of anything about the history of its development. But reading the last 3-4 pages of complaining about clothes and "class" this is the kind of vibes I'm getting from this community:

 

[nexer]

You definitely need to upgrade your standards guys, look at her: elegant, classy ,chic
Sorry short, fat, ugly as hell is the new beauty standard nowadays

 

[Deleted member 396172]

Nice one !

 

[Bahraini]

it seems like she is not wearing bra

 

[nexer]

L&P could save the scene with a discussion between Patricia and Sophia about how they will dress. It could be a loophole, all intended as a way to shock the audience.
Otherwise, the lack of a bra will be a red flag for Patricia, and suspicions should show up in the discussion between them.

 

[ancienregimele]

So ummm, I only recently discovered this game. Don't know much of anything about the history of its development. But reading the last 3-4 pages of complaining about clothes and "class" this is the kind of vibes I'm getting from this community:

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Where did you get that picture of me from?! Seriously though that couldn't be more wrong. I grew up in a place that's within the top 2% of deprived areas in my country, ie 98% of the country was better off. Class & taste don't originate from the actual socio-economic group to which you may belong, or the area from which you come. Yes, I am a bit of a snob when it comes to Sophia's taste in clothes, or at least that's one way of looking at it. I prefer to think I've developed better taste over the years than the pre-pubescent school-boy I used to be.

 

[ancienregimele]

L&P could save the scene with a discussion between Patricia and Sophia about how they will dress. It could be a loophole, all intended as a way to shock the audience.
Otherwise, the lack of a bra will be a red flag for Patricia, and suspicions should show up in the discussion between them.

That gives a ray of hope & how I wish that it's true but I'm not putting any money on it.

 

[Sabertooth__]

I agree with exception. Not all his work is wow! I will not go down the path of that BS scene from the last update. That is far enough and we all know what I mean. He has failed and he has succeeded. We hope he will be in the success column more. His artwork is better than others for the most part (If KillJoys, wynlard, Pixil, Mando Logica, Jack Adams, St-pol got into actual production they all are as good IMO). Not really a question there. His writing however took a hit last update. Let's see what he does this update. No pressure. He is slowing production to the point of frustration.

Basic successful sales = Under promise and Over deliver. He is going with Over promise and Under deliver.

My thoughts on the 2nd job scene are just that I don't have a problem with the fetish portrayed but the way it went was not very good. He rushed it unlike all his other storylines and it came off as a scene thriving on porn logic.

As I stated before for this scene, all he needed to do was show that Sophia tried and tried and tried, a lot of different ways but failed to get the kids to understand and in the next class ( day ) accepted after trying once again. He didn't even need to spend time making full fledged scenes for that. Montages of Sophia trying different methods would be enough. Within 30 renders he could have shown Sophia having tried over 4-5 methods of teaching. An experienced teacher giving up immediately and letting the boys strip was indeed a poor and lazy effort. Which is indeed shocking considering how much effort he generally puts into the scenes. None of the other Storylines ever derailed so much from logic. So it is an exception. Though still not as bad as some other games I have played but from Awam standards not good at all