Alley_Cat

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Ok...I finally figured it out from reading the comments, this game is meant for the blue ballers that love slow burns, man how desperate can someone be waiting years just to see a tit from a Daz render model.
We've been able to see tits in the game for quite a while. Pussy on the other hand is often hidden.

I did notice curiously that Jules doesn't seem to have much in the way of pussy hair. While it might be because she's a blonde, it does make me wonder if she knows more about "intimate shaving" than her innocent image would imply.
 

RockSpice

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Ok...I finally figured it out from reading the comments, this game is meant for the blue ballers that love slow burns, man how desperate can someone be waiting years just to see a tit from a Daz render model.
Well, most people here just enjoy in good story. But, what do you expect from this game? Maybe some quick bang, to jerk off? Really? In a world with a millions of porn sites .... in a world where you can easily get real thing with a little help of Tinder ... you really need sex in a game to jerk off? Oh poor boy, do you realize how pathetic that sounds.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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Well, most people here just enjoy in good story. But, what do you expect from this game? Maybe some quick bang, to jerk off? Really? In a world with a millions of porn sites .... in a world where you can easily get real thing with a little help of Tinder ... you really need sex in a game to jerk off? Oh poor boy, do you realize how pathetic that sounds.
A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either.
 

Sabertooth__

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A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either.
What does the story have to do with the development pace. It is L&P who is on the slower side and his story is massive. And anything that is done by a single person with emphasis to quality takes it's time.

1.5 hrs of a Disney movie takes around 5 years to make even with a 100 animators. Anime generally having 12 episodes ( 4 hours ) generally take 10 months to one year in production, sometimes even that is not enough. Some extremely mesmerizing scenes which last only 2-3 minutes take 3-4 months to make. A manga chapter not containing more than 10-15 minutes of reading time takes 1 month, some with higher quality art take 2-3 months for 10-15 minutes of content.

The story itself can be told in very less time if done through text or shot with real people, when it has to be drawn or animated it takes time to get all the details right. So good storys can take a little extra time but the real time taker is the length of the story, the medium chosen to narrate it,the number of people behind it and the quality at the which the product is intended to be delivered.
 

Jimmy Kimbolt

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Hi, How many saves do I need to play each paths . There is blackmails, a boarding school, side works and other choices. I don't know how to start it and choose the most interesting paths. Sorry for bad english.
 

Dr.SigmundFap

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What does the story have to do with the development pace. It is L&P who is on the slower side and his story is massive. And anything that is done by a single person with emphasis to quality takes it's time.

1.5 hrs of a Disney movie takes around 5 years to make even with a 100 animators. Anime generally having 12 episodes ( 4 hours ) generally take 10 months to one year in production, sometimes even that is not enough. Some extremely mesmerizing scenes which last only 2-3 minutes take 3-4 months to make. A manga chapter not containing more than 10-15 minutes of reading time takes 1 month, some with higher quality art take 2-3 months for 10-15 minutes of content.

The story itself can be told in very less time if done through text or shot with real people, when it has to be drawn or animated it takes time to get all the details right. So good storys can take a little extra time but the real time taker is the length of the story, the medium chosen to narrate it,the number of people behind it and the quality at the which the product is intended to be delivered.
First of all, this isn't a movie or animation, and to compare this to a film is like comparing apples and oranges. I never said it doesn't take time; I said again, "A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either." Second, A good story doesn't need complex storylines either. A direct, simplistic approach can work just as well. Other VN novels are good at the core and are linear, which don't branch out into 30+ different paths. He could have written the story based on six or seven characters and most likely achieved his results at a quicker pace.

If you read some of his Patreon comments, most want to see the core characters with Sophia more than anything else, Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, and Sam, plus some outside characters like Aiden. If he focuses on them more instead of having 90+ characters, I think he would achieve more significant progress with less, and his Patreon Member count would be higher than it is now.

He could have done this in less time if he didn't have, me being facetious here, 30+ routes with some of the routes having the same themes as others.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Hi, How many saves do I need to play each paths . There is blackmails, a boarding school, side works and other choices. I don't know how to start it and choose the most interesting paths. Sorry for bad english.
There's no real answer to that, since it depends on what you find interesting. To play all the scenes I think most have about 6 or so. But of saves for the "interesting scenes" some have dozens of saves, I only have one.

My advice would just be to play the Maximum Filthy route to see what appeals to you, but if a different choice looks interesting, start a different save.

EDIT:
Best walkthrough I've seen for the Maximum Filthy route with the major scenes is this one by Mamonetti. That will get you most of the major scenes barring the sex scenes with Liam (the husband), and a couple of minor scenes on the Dylan route.
 
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Sabertooth__

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First of all, this isn't a movie or animation, and to compare this to a film is like comparing apples and oranges. I never said it doesn't take time; I said again, "A good story doesn't have to take 20+ years to tell either." Second, A good story doesn't need complex storylines either. A direct, simplistic approach can work just as well. Other VN novels are good at the core and are linear, which don't branch out into 30+ different paths. He could have written the story based on six or seven characters and most likely achieved his results at a quicker pace.

If you read some of his Patreon comments, most want to see the core character with Sophia more than anything else, Dylan, Ellie, Patricia, and Sam, plus some outside characters like Aiden. If he focuses on them more instead of having 90+ characters, I think he would achieve more significant progress with less, and his Patreon Member count would be higher than it is now.

He could have done this in less time if he didn't have, me being facetious here, 30+ routes with some of the routes having the same themes as others.
My comment emphasised on the fact that anything of art require such manual attention to work takes time. The mediums are different, the effort here isn't. Be it anime, animated movies or manga or comics.

And just like visual novels with 5-6 Characters are good, VN novel with 20 characters can also be good and definitely way better if done right. This very thing would be celebrated because of a huge range of fetishes only if L&P could do 7000 renders a year instead of barely getting near 1800.

And what an exaggeration it is to call 90+ characters. Characters which have scenes are limited to only these

Nathalie, Aiden, Liam, Dylan, Alyssa, Sam Ellie, Julia, Morello Larry, Patricia, Amber,
Tutoring Job, Bennett, Janitor, Nursing Home, Zac, Vicky Deshawn, Neil, Jennifer,
Cathy, Principal, Movers, Thugs, Emma

Total - 25.

out of which Alyssa is hardly getting anything.
Morello's storyline isn't coming back for a while
Amber one or two scenes a week
Bennett Storyline has been cut short and currently only has 82 renders. Janitor is another with only 80 renders and no event in sight.
Neil is forgetten, Principal has no role, Movers aren't coming back till the end just like the Thugs.
Liam doesn't seem to have a seen for the next few days, even if he did no one here would be excited for it. So it doesn't matter.
Jennifer doesn't have route either. It is just a event or two.

So just tell me where are your 90+ characters, if you count 5 charcters from the 2nd job it makes no sense since we will only get one scene from it. Similar 3 movers make no difference, since whenever they have a scene it will be together. Same goes for the thugs. And it is downright non sensical to count all the students in Sophia's class in characters, they are just filling space or the gym Instructor,. Dylan's martial arts instructor who is likely to never have a scene. Logan and his friends too shouldn't be counted separately because they are just part of Ellie Sophia route. They don't have exclusive scenes. Whenever Sophia Ellie have their scene they will just be a part of it.


There are primarily only Pat, Ellie, Dylan Sam, Aiden, 2 jobs, Nathalie, Vicky, Alyssa, Zac, Liam. Not a huge number of main stay storylines. Rest of the characters have a once in blue a moon appearance and some might never even show up again
A streamlined linear game would be boring as hell with Sophia constantly pushing herself every next scene with the same 4-5 Characters, making it look like just a monotonous, run of the mill sex fest game in a span of 3-4 PD And the scenes will just look forced as there is nothing to show besides these same 5 people.
 
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PatreonTed

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Ok...I finally figured it out from reading the comments, this game is meant for the blue ballers that love slow burns, man how desperate can someone be waiting years just to see a tit from a Daz render model.
There's a lot of games where I just hammer on the space bar to see some titties, but once I realized this one was going to be a ridiculously slow burn, I started to enjoy it more. Variety is the spice of life!
 

Radoslaw Wolf

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Hi, How many saves do I need to play each paths . There is blackmails, a boarding school, side works and other choices. I don't know how to start it and choose the most interesting paths. Sorry for bad english.
I have three saves that seem to cover all possible events on the filthy path. I might have made a minor manipulation around the variables on the way, don't remember exactly. I know for sure I paired boarding school with one side job, and no boarding school with the other. Be creative ;)

P.S. Your English is fine, no need to be sorry.
 
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