VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205] [Lust & Passion]

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Nakirin

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How many deaths do I need in my country for an update to come out? There are a lot of orcs, say the number) It's just that the time update does not work, it probably needs victims (sorry dark humor)
 
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DarthSpitz717

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Do you even play the Ellie route? Ellie doesn't actually like meatheads. She dates them because that's what's expected of her in order to be the popular head cheerleader, but why she's never gone all the way with a guy. We learn this in the last Ellie shower. It's her relationship with Jules that's based on liking and caring about another person.

The bonus storyline that you're playing has little at all to do with the Ellie route. You can even choose for Sophia to watch Dylan's football match, so that Sophia never takes Ellie to the sauna, and Ellie never actually meets Logan.
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Actually, I am going on the conversation Elle had with Sophia in the shower and her own words. Then there are her actions, like at the dance club. But it's fine actually that a young inexperienced girl would like the bad boys. To be sure there is peer pressure as a teenager would have as you correctly point out. Those reading these posts already been down that road and gotten the t-shirt to understand what it was like growing up. Question are the DEVs deliberately using this trope as part of their storyline or just capitalizing on how novias teenage girls are.

As to storyline paths that open x, y, and z content--sure. You got me there. But the path you take proves your point and the path I took proves mine. Damn better than just reading a book I say and having black and white outcomes. Hell, if one wants they can just pick good wife options making this all moot. But were we both can agree is it's a work in progress and right now both options are alive and there maybe things that surprise us both depending on paths taken and not taken.
 
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Actually, I am going on the conversation Elle had with Sophia in the shower and her own words. Then there are her actions, like at the dance club. But it's fine actually that a young inexperienced girl would like the bad boys. To be sure there is peer pressure as a teenager would have as you correctly point out. Those reading these posts already been down that road and gotten the t-shirt to understand what it was like growing up. Question are the DEVs deliberately using this trope as part of their storyline or just capitalizing on how novias teenage girls are.

As to storyline paths that open x, y, and z content--sure. You got me there. But the path you take proves your point and the path I took proves mine. Damn better than just reading a book I say and having black and white outcomes. Hell, if one wants they can just pick good wife options making this all moot. But were we both can agree is it's a work in progress and right now both options are alive and there maybe things that surprise us both depending on paths taken and not taken.
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Yes the writing was good but the quality decreased lately to be honest. I am sensing that the author is rushing things. Trying to take a direction that will satisfy the crowd with erotic scenes, while giving up on the build up. And to me that's where AWAM shines.

And it is getting worse lately with the sam - dylan scenes. I feel like sam's story had a proper build up while dylan's is a bit rushed. We don't really know yet what will happen in the upcoming update but from what people are saying it will most likely be the case. So overall i have mixed feelings about the writing to be honest. Sometimes it's great, and sometimes not that much.
 
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DarthSpitz717 said:
I just stumbled upon this game, and I am very impressed! Storyline, art, plot it's like a 9.5 out of 10.

I am a writer--and half the battle is the story. I think the game I am thinking of is "Christine Watson" at this moment were there is great artwork, but the storyline just is dreadful and the plot weak. Not sure how many here have read JRR Martin's "Game of Thrones" series but its nonlinear. It makes the story and a lot of the subplots because it connects other plots. I can just image how much labor goes into the programing and the renders let alone editing. I wager it's like watching snails racing each other at the Daytona 500.

Almost 6000 posts about just this one game is its own testament how good the game is. Another good game "Summer Story" is shy of 120 posts. Its own success though has its own pitfalls though. The biggest potential flop is the Sam/Sophia plotline. How those two finally make love and how its depicted is the test stone. The make out scene in second part totally works. But there are another plotline involving Dylan and his sister (maybe) and eventually the two mothers of Dylan and Sam and how they are going to react when they discover each other's involvement with their sons.

Seriously the only way really to speed things is more programmers working with a director/writer.
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As for the writing, I can't agree with you. In my opinion, there are better authors who are far ahead of L&P in terms of both narrative style and dialogue. L&P's dialogues are almost always stilted and are far from humorous and easygoing. But this is just a very personal impression, because I've learned from reading many books that different authors have different writing styles and I sometimes have a hard time adapting to them.
But what is pretty unique about L&P is the connection between dialogue/story and the pictures. Hardly any other author takes so much trouble to illustrate the flow of an event, the interactions of the characters and the dialogues (with elaborately rendered images) in such a way that the basic erotic mood is conveyed very well. That is what characterizes the VN for me. The combination of image and word.
Of course, this has its price if you are a lone fighter and obviously have a working style that is incompatible with the idea of a team.
After six years of development, there are gaps in the story, logical errors that a proofreader would notice and that, as you might have noticed as a writer, disrupt the flow of the story quite a bit while reading.
But now it is the case that here in this forum many mosquitoes are inflated to elephants. If you read further back in this thread you will find a discussion of the capacity of a handbag that illustrates this very well.
It is also the case that due to the long development time, which also due to L&P's thoroughness and Obsession with detail, some fetishes and characters do not appear again for a long time. I have the suspicion that some of the narrative problems discussed here, and the recurring demand to shorten the story because it is too long, cumbersome and not very effective, have very selfish reasons.
Finally, I would like to join one of the previous speakers. I'm staying because I'm curious, not about what abysses the story is still based on, but about how it will continue, because I enjoy the detailed pictures, because for me, unlike others here, there is something in almost every update and that's so ridiculous sounds, the virtual character Sophia looks simply breathtaking in some pictures.
 
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Lol there definitely is, so don't worry about this. Plus it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
 
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Anyone new to AWAM & playing for the first time could be impressed. It has high quality renders with an attention to detail, as a refreshing change from the majority of corruption games. There were so many possibilities & potentially several hours of game play. There was the slow burn which helped to distinguish this VN/game, (VN= as it was when I started playing 6 years ago), from average 3D porn. Early in the development of AWAM there existed a veneer of realism, not often present in other games. It had the "class" that the developer claimed in his mission statement & a very individual method of tale telling. Back then the proliferation of characters, kinks & storylines almost seemed to be an advantage, with something for everyone. As for my own POV, having played a large number of games, AWAM looked set to become THE great 3D adult game, making full use of the artistic medium's potential in a way that was unique, as well as long overdue. Overall, in comparison to 3D sex gaming norms, this was not straightforward porn but a piece of genuine erotica. It was as if, at last, there existed a 3D erotic fiction, written by a grown-up for grown-ups. It carried on in this style for the first couple of years. Here was a developer with creativity, vision & ambition. Interest was & remains high. AWAM is a success story, judging by the Dev's ability to maintain a paying consumer base, while occasionally working on a game, where even the personalities of the main characters are not consistent but which, nevertheless attracts & retains a hard core of uncritical fans, for whom L&P is worthy only of congratulations & gratitude. If 1 render was released every 5 years, there'd still be many to sing the developer's praises.

Regrettably, with the exception of high quality renders, none of the above is now the case. AWAM proved too big a project for one person. Promises to recruit a team once particular targets had been achieved turned out not only to be untrue but resulted in targets, once met, having the goalposts moved. Several changes, over a number of years, in the pace of development announced as the means to speed up, had the opposite effect, as AWAM slowed to the current situation, of one event on one day taking 2 & a half months. AWAM's ending is thus estimated as being anywhere from the 2050s to 2070. Slowness helped to destroy the continuity & coherence of the various routes & plot threads, which themselves became riddled with plot-holes. Characters disappearing anywhere from 5 to 11 years are now the norm, making immersion from a player's POV impossible. There are various other examples of unforced errors, traceable with a trawl through this thread.

Even the accomplished writing skills, often in evidence, no longer seem to be applied, Sophia & Sam's encounter in his bedroom being, from my POV, the latest evidence of the complete abandonment of any attempt at realism. There is now a second MC, (the original MC's son), despite "2 MCs" being a contradiction in terms. AWAM is now average teen porn, reduced to the level of 2 virgin schoolboys engaged in an improbably manufactured 'race' to see how far they can get in their sexual relationships with their favourite MILF & as we've seen, being mightily impressive, when the opportunity arises. AWAM is now all about wish fulfilment for the under-18 audience, "where the market is."

If you stay with this game for a while, you'll see what I mean. That's if you've got 30-40 years to spare. I stick around for 2 reasons, i) curiousity, to see how bad this can get & ii) quality renders, still a cut above the rest. So, I'll end with the most positive thing I can still honestly say about this once-great game.
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drax 4998 said:
Brother this game is running over just our imagination

Everyone is waiting for their imaginations came true in upcoming years but we always get disappointed by L&P
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Well, not always, there were some bad and shitty events in my opinion, but there were some damn hot and original ones, I literally haven't seen that in other games (Aiden's tasks 3)
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p.s Just as an example of the brightest representatives of good and bad events
 
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Watch the hype guys, it is part 1 out of 2 and probably Lust will leave us wanting more.

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I'm sure it will, but I hope he delivers and that there's some hot content in part 1 as he said.

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Lol there definitely is, so don't worry about this. Plus it's pretty story heavy where you learn more about Sophia's/Dylan's past and expand Sophia's and Dylan's relationship further. And additionally the renders and characters look even better than before.
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Well for the fourth time, L&P confirms that this Sophia/Dylan event part 1 will have HOT CONTENT, based on previous material and knowledge I think we can tell 3 possible SUPER HOT scenarios that could occur

Number 3: "The fabric touching with questions about the origin and manufacturing"

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Number 2: "Showed the breasts (again and remember that they are not special) with the possibility of questions if they are too heavy"

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Number 1: "Pinky kiss on the lips (without tongue) and this time it will be by mutual agreement"

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I don't know about you children but I'm dying to know which on is ;) :p :ROFLMAO:
 
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