ihl86

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Like you said, because I know the facts, I take offense at the words of deluded people like you.

And I wrote because you agreed with the words of 'Emmanuelle' and something in your writing caught my eye.
Or maybe not.

I don't plan to find the first person to use the word 'apple'.

The point is, you said or agreed that this game is "like Emmanuelle" and I said "it's not".
Again, what did I write that made you think I am deluded. I am really curious.
I said there will be sex in this game. At some point in time. Unless this gets abandoned, it is a fact.
When I agreed with the Emmanuelle poster, I agreed with the fact that I consider AWAM to be erotica more than porn.
I also said I don't understand people like you. Clearly hating the content, or stating that you are hating it at least but still, checking every update, I imagine maybe every teaser. Why do this to yourself. There are plenty of games I tried, didn't like and didn't look back.
And if you don't think this is porn, and don't think this is erotic either, what do you think this is?
 

Claudi@

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Seriously what the fuck? There wasn't any sexual scenes in that video. :( Maybe its just because its on youtube, they don't allow nudity.
the video looks interesting, that's why I'm asking if they fuck or not in the update ... or is it something softcore like bj or hj
 

hu lover

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Why this game with each update is worst and worst ?
Possible reasons:
Not enough patron support.
Lack of experience for both artists and coders.

This is part of the reason why some games have poor character development and poorly written story.
 

tofhdns

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Again, what did I write that made you think I am deluded. I am really curious.
I said there will be sex in this game. At some point in time. Unless this gets abandoned, it is a fact.
When I agreed with the Emmanuelle poster, I agreed with the fact that I consider AWAM to be erotica more than porn.
I also said I don't understand people like you. Clearly hating the content, or stating that you are hating it at least but still, checking every update, I imagine maybe every teaser. Why do this to yourself. There are plenty of games I tried, didn't like and didn't look back.
And if you don't think this is porn, and don't think this is erotic either, what do you think this is?
I just re-read my post.

I was quoting two people texts at the same time, and 'Emmanuelle' was not your word and it was not my word to you.

The reason I quoted you was because of 'gangbang' and I wrote that I rarely saw anyone who said they wanted a 'gangbang'.

I said Emmanuelle is not porn but has sex and this game is a porn game but no sex.

Also, contrary to what you are saying, many people have said that they don't want cheap porn, they want high quality 'porn'.

So stop talking useless, like Emmanuelle.
 

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Overview:
My game is a choice-based visual novel, where you take the role of Sophia Parker, a happily married middle-aged woman and mother of a son and daughter. Due to her husband’s new job offer she just moved with her family from their sleepy, cold, small town to San Alejo, a hot megacity by the sea. And not only the city is bigger but also their new house and backyard.
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Release Date: 2023-08-26
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Version: 0.190
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Thanks for posting this long text :love:
Steam is not an option - no minors in sexual context whatever - it might be even a law against that... you can see he keeps everything on some hidden servers... and on Patreon there is for sure the same policy.
Steam approval required ID verification and each game is approved, content rating is audited ,etc... no way this is going public ...
He's probably going to jail (don't pass go and don't collect :ROFLMAO:) - when Dylan and Sam fucking 18 already !!! :devilish::coffee::unsure:
My guess is that he will age them up for Steam. I agree with you (this and the post below) that I'm not into them being underaged anyway. L&P did that because he's personally into it, he likes Shota. His little other work before AWAM are all about young boys molesting and having sex with milfs.
If Steam requires it, he'll just age them up like he probably should have done to begin with.

How I'd do it? A sudden change for the family. They have to move again for a couple years or Sophia is able to contain this desire to sexually reach out and it outright stops for a while. She makes whatever changes she has to for a year or two until the boys can be young men.

He already aged them up once, he'll just do it again to get on Steam. Another sign that he doesn't have a set script as claimed as much as general framework at most.

But yeah, I'm also not really into shota or even incest for that matter. In any VN where it's done I just image they're 18yo or it's a stepmom/stepson.
 

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There seemed to be 2-3 actual choices to be made and none that anyone would have to think about. It's all "do you want to see new content or not" decisions. Yet, even I have to admit that I have long been on the side of limiting them so that's not a bad thing in and of itself.
I think AWAM has in reality very few choices (except the ones you stated that are more do you want to see the content or not).
Those choice are actually what form the "routes". They define what you want to pursue in the game: get blackmail by aiden or send Dylan to boarding school, pursue something with the kids or only with adults, or whatever else you might want Sofia to experiment.
Unfortunately, in the current context, with slow updates, those choices could easily mean one or two years without any content, so it's more like: do you want to see the new content or do you want to ignore the game.


The bending of logic that still has to happen becajee the dev cannot write a coherent story is insane. This woman is - BY THE HOUR - fondling boys/men and being fondled by boys/men but turns into a prude when it suits the story for her not to go forward. Everyone rightfully mocks the "they were interrupted" move but almost nobody mentions (in comparison) how Sophia's morals change solely on whether the story can progress sexually or not. What she does in a scene has no connection to logic, common sense or emotion.


She's giving her son a weak handjob (more on that later) in the hot tub. She's topless. Her son is sucking on her tits and fondling them. He touched her pussy. Etc.
She can:
Go out with son (or Sam or whoever, it's all the same regardless of person and scene) in a skimpy outfit.
Pretend to be his actual date/girlfriend.
Get drunk with them.
Get into a hot tub topless or lay on a bed topless with them.
Let them play with and suck her tits.
Let them remove her panties.
Now give a weak handjob to them.
Let them cum on her chest and stomach.

And we're just talking about the two teen boys. This list is so much longer if we add the SE kids or old men or....the list is long.

Ok, so she can do all that but...when the desire to drag the story along requires it...she develops a conscience that defies all realities of how the human body and sexuality works. Every time.
You think just because a woman is kissing someone and goes to second base with him, it means she is ready to go all the way? Especially, if there are other factors involved (such as the guy being her son).



"Well, it's a porn story"

1) He talks about and brags about realism all the time.
2) Even within the world of porn-logic it makes no sense. It treats Sophia like a weird robot, an emotion-LESS psycho that is down to fuck until it's time to fuck.

No, falling back on "she's an emotionally vulnerable or ignored housewife" does not cut it here. In fact, those things make it even more unrealistic in this argument.
Yes, a person feeling neglected can misbehave for attention. However, there is not this bipolar ABILITY (it is one here, it seems) to regulate good decisions and bad/naughty decisions in the heat of the moment.
I don't think L&P could really write Sofia in a realistic way. He would need the help of a woman, even better, a mother. Men haven't been able to understand women for thousands of year, I'm sure L&P will not be the first one to do so. This is why his writing will almost always fall short in the realistic part.
Also, there is no world where Sofia would be craving as much attention as she does. She is a gorgeous woman and always has been. She hasn't suffered some miraculous transformation when they moved to the new town. She has been getting a lot of attention all of her life. This is just a lazy excuse to have her act in certain ways. (Such a young and "handsome" man is paying me compliments. It's hard to read this with a straight face. I usually try ignore the crap as much as possible and skip the lines that are too bad/corny.)


The fact that this is all happening in 3-4 hour spans (each update) makes it all the more ridiculous. Let us imagine she is a real person for a second:
Sophia is clearly already predisposed to sexually misbehaving. This didn't begin with a move or the first time her husband neglected her. The Sophia we see would have already been cheating on her husband BEFORE the story began. Yet, it's a story so let's focus on it when I say that she then would already be cheating now. Clearly...if the writer didn't want to prolong it for as long as possible for money.
The playing days are the worst thing that can happen to this game. It breaks any chance it would have at realism. If she would indeed be such a horndog all day long, she would be cheating already. I like to imagine every event is a few days away at least. Maybe more sometimes. Or else, it's just silly town.
I think Playing day 15 or 16 is supposed to have 3 sex events or something.
Imagine going from no cheating on Friday to sleeping with at least 3 different people, in 3 different situations on Sunday. it's ludicrous. I don't know why he insists on such nonsense.


I'll end by saying that Daz is not quick or easy. I've always said that. All the more reason to hire help.
I'll also add that even writing a story is not easy, all the more reason to hire help.
I'm even add that writing the Python/Renpy code is easier but still a bit of work...all the more reason to hire help.
One thing I will say about L&P after the latest release is that I don't think there's anyone on this website at least with the same quality of renders. There are a few that have good quality. But everything coming together so well, at least in regards to Sofia, I haven't seen.
That being said, imagine a perfect world where L&P hires someone to do most of the grunt work on the scenes and he just puts the finishing touches to keep up the quality.
A world where he uses a render farm, if his computers can't keep up and they are one of the reasons for these massive delays.
A world where he indeed hires a writer (preferably female) to help him with the story.
Now coming back to reality, I unfortunately don't think any of that is going to happen. He would have done something by now if he wanted to.
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As is now, you seem like a cheap, power hungry egomaniac that can't admit when he's fucked up or may need some help. You have time to change that view of yourself but it's running out and Steam won't save it if you don't make necessary changes.
I talk a lot of shit but it's all been deserved and I'll happily take it back and praise you if you turn this thing around. As is, that last update wasn't some great new direction as much as a magnifying glass exposing the flaws in your story and style.
At least he isn't as bad as ICSTOR. Not yet, or maybe not at all, time will tell.
 
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My guess is that he will age them up for Steam. I agree with you (this and the post below) that I'm not into them being underaged anyway. L&P did that because he's personally into it, he likes Shota. His little other work before AWAM are all about young boys molesting and having sex with milfs.
If Steam requires it, he'll just age them up like he probably should have done to begin with.

How I'd do it? A sudden change for the family. They have to move again for a couple years or Sophia is able to contain this desire to sexually reach out and it outright stops for a while. She makes whatever changes she has to for a year or two until the boys can be young men.

He already aged them up once, he'll just do it again to get on Steam. Another sign that he doesn't have a set script as claimed as much as general framework at most.

But yeah, I'm also not really into shota or even incest for that matter. In any VN where it's done I just image they're 18yo or it's a stepmom/stepson.
Oh, you mean, Dylan and Sam are just 18 now... in text :ROFLMAO: I thought you mean he will do the complete story with new renders... now I get it ;)
Yeah, that will work and publish just part 2 (or part of part 2) ..
 

ihl86

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I just re-read my post.

I was quoting two people texts at the same time, and 'Emmanuelle' was not your word and it was not my word to you.

The reason I quoted you was because of 'gangbang' and I wrote that I rarely saw anyone who said they wanted a 'gangbang'.

I said Emmanuelle is not porn but has sex and this game is a porn game but no sex.

So stop talking useless, like Emmanuelle.
I think something is getting lost in translation between us because I don't think we disagree on as many topics as it might have seemed until now.
Just the erotica/porn stuff.
Just for your information, porn doesn't have to contain sex. Playboy is porn, by definition, but doesn't have sex in its pages.


Also, contrary to what you are saying, many people have said that they don't want cheap porn, they want high quality 'porn'.
Where have I stated anything contrary to your statement? Where did I say what kind of porn people want? I just said a lot just want sex, sex, sex.
A gangbang doesn't mean it's cheap porn, just like 1-on-1 sex doesn't make it high quality. (if that's what you were referring to)
 
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