Bane71

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You seen quite reasonable yourself. So, in your opinion, do you think it's worth to support this dev?
I'm really want to know since i've been planning to support him, but still don't know if it's worth it.

I really like the writing in some scenes (like the Ellie shower ones, those are golden), but i feel that we are getting more and more plots that are either meaningless for now or that only serves to slow down the plot. I really like the game thought, so that's why i still don't know if pledging is worth or not.
Friend, at the very least, you need to make a decision based on your likes, realizing that other characters and paths are normal, this is for other users. All other people cannot like exactly what you like.
 

yihman1

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Hi.
Isn't it possible for another developer to make another game with the same character Sophia and move the work forward faster?
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-fan-game-final-pixil.62869/

A fan has made a fangame. A short kinetic novel that gives the fans what the fans have demanded FOREVER.

However, it's faux pas as a developer to simply steal a character and world like that if you are monetizing it. Also, typically when people pick up a game like that it's not really one that is in development such as this game and it has a 90% chance of being another big brother clone.

A cameo appearance is another thing that is more welcome to do.
 
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I'm not sure if this is triggering right
Day 18:
"At Alyssa’s place, Sophia will get the chance to inform Zac about her presence. If she doesn’t, he’ll come naked into the living room, which will be a huge shock for the both of them. If Sophia doesn’t have more filthy points than good wife, she’ll automatically turn away and Zac will disappear in his room. Otherwise she’ll get the chance to prevent Zac from disappearing in his room." I've gone through doing no Good Wife and still this doesn't seem to trigger. I didn't tell him. He came out naked but he still covers and goes back into his room no "chance to prevent Zac from disappearing" She still looks away. Does she look away in both situations?
 

jumanji262

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Ellie/Sophia shower scene could of gone further than it did but Sophia seemed to be holding back when it reached a certain point.
Prison visit was dark and aggressive and now it seems that Sophia is turned on by rough sex choking/gagging and wants to shag a guy she has only just met because he paid her compliments,besies lying to her husband so easly.
Vicky event I don't know as it confused the fuck out of me.
Visit Liam at work event/sex in public Sophia giving Liam a bj while he talke to Scarlet,door was only partly open.
The update seemed rushed and not well thought out and too many things happened with Sophia that seemed so out of character.
The devs works is normally topnotch with amazing details to his renders but this render the mistake he made just seems sloppy to me.
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Agree ..prison visit was aggressive ..I mean Sophia gets aroused by a stranger n especially by a convicted criminal n at the end walking to d door with eye to eye contact with him :rolleyes:.I get liam is in dept BT that move was confusing
 
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Bane71

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What if someone just change the names and some models (only Sophia matters) Just like the turkish version of classic Hollywood movies? Morally incorrect but... Anyway it's just a though.
Technically, this option is possible, but I have great doubts that, firstly, L&P will quit work on the project, and secondly, that there would be someone qualified enough to continue it.
 

Kodek

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Someone already gave a good explanation some pages back (i don't remember who right now) as to why a lot of people are highly unsatisfied with the current update. Paraphrasing that explanation: theres two major problems in my view. I'll be brief.

1) The dev promised quicker but smaller updates and gave a slow and smaller one. Of courser a lot o people were unsatisfied with this, but this isn't something to get to worked upon. If this kind of update repeats then it's undestandable to be pissed off (especifically patrons). But, well, it's possible to give the dev a break once it's very possible that this kind of updated won't repeat itself and we will be getting the quicker updates.

2) The prison event. That's a big problem. Because it goes against Sophia's base mentality and buildup until now. She didn't need to go that far or feel that much excited with the guy, she could only tease him like she does with Dylan and Sam. Not only this guy that she never saw in her life scored easily with her there's the fact that Sophia never got that far with any character who she knows and had a lot of sexual and non-sexual interactions already.
So why the hell would she go that far with this Morello dude? The simple fact that this blatant scene with Morello exists makes all the build up with other, more important characters until now seens meaningless. (This is outside the lesbian route btw)

If Sophia suddenly turned into an easy slut i can promise that a lot more people will be pissed off with the dev.
It seens to me that he is trying to appease a specific part of the fanbase that want more sexual action and are tired of the slow pace.The proof is that this updates has more sexual scenes than the others and it's such a small one too.

This path is dangerous and shouldn't be even considered an option this far into the game. I think the majority of his fanbase is satisfied enough with the slow pace and build up with less action. In my opinion, he should stick with it even with the smaller updates.
 
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Kodek

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Friend, at the very least, you need to make a decision based on your likes, realizing that other characters and paths are normal, this is for other users. All other people cannot like exactly what you like.
I already did, i'll hold the pledge for now. Maybe search some new devs with promising projects instead.
If the next updates get better, i will give my support, if not... well, i hope we won't get a lazy ending or a sudden disappearence.
 

Alley_Cat

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Hi.
Isn't it possible for another developer to make another game with the same character Sophia and move the work forward faster?
What White_Wolf619 said. But speaking as the fan artist with likely the most accurate assets for what is in the game, there is much that still needs to be identified, including her tan, the school, her hallways, etc.

So if you're serious about wanting it to move ahead, drop us a line in the fan art thread. With enough people working on it, we may eventually be able to insert renders into the game
 
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Technically, this option is possible, but I have great doubts that, firstly, L&P will quit work on the project, and secondly, that there would be someone qualified enough to continue it.
I don't know why anyone would want some other person to develop this game. This is L&P's work, one cannot just come and change the name of the characters and develop the game just because some people are upset. Actually, this is not new in this thread. When an update comes, suddenly many members (who btw have never talked anything in this thread before) come out of nowhere play this game and troll it. If the patrons were dissapointed with L&P's work they will talk to him or stop supporting him and L&P can decide how to proceed with the game next. Ofcourse, I'm not saying that the dev should not consider what the non-patrons say in this thread but I don't want him to worry just because of some whiners.
 

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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-fan-game-final-pixil.62869/

A fan has made a fangame. A short kinetic novel that gives the fans what the fans have demanded FOREVER.

However, it's faux pas as a developer to simply steal a character and world like that if you are monetizing it. Also, typically when people pick up a game like that it's not really one that is in development such as this game and it has a 90% chance of being another big brother clone.

A cameo appearance is another thing that is more welcome to do.
LOL. I saw one that was bad and not even a game but with her she said "I wish I could go back to L & P's no sex game!"|
Again she's so frigid if you tried to fuck Sophia you'd freeze off your dick.
 

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2) The prison event. That's a big problem. Because it goes against Sophia's base mentality and buildup until now. She didn't need to go that far or feel that much excited with the guy, she could only tease him like she does with Dylan and Sam. Not only this guy that she never saw in her life scored easily with her there's the fact that Sophia never got that far with any character who she knows and had a lot of sexual and non-sexual interactions already.
So why the hell would she go that far with this Morello dude? The simple fact that this blatant scene with Morello exists makes all the build up with other, more important characters until now seens meaningless. (This is outside the lesbian route btw)

If Sophia suddenly turned into an easy slut i can promise that a lot more people will be pissed off with the dev.
It seens to me that he is trying to appease a specific part of the fanbase that want more sexual action and are tired of the slow pace.The proof is that this updates has more sexual scenes than the others and it's such a small one too.
Two keys of that scene:
1. She had to do all of it, because her husband (and Sophia herself, and the children) were in a mobster's hand. If really that was what Morello wanted, it was a small price.
2. Morello's brother was a stranger, as you write: she never saw in her life... and probably she never will. She could to do all of this, without consequences.
 

Alley_Cat

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On a different note, has anyone noticed anything about the Twist, since it's been removed? The only thing I noticed was during the Ellie event when they were talking briefly about Dylan being away, Sophia didn't seem as annoyed at him as she would have been with the Twist in.
 
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Kodek

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Two keys of that scene:
1. She had to do all of it, because her husband (and Sophia herself, and the children) were in a mobster's hand. If really that was what Morello wanted, it was a small price.
2. Morello's brother was a stranger, as you write: she never saw in her life... and probably never will. She could to do all of this, and no consequences.
While i can see some logic in the second key. The first is the problem.

She didn't need to do all that and normally wouldn't do any of that. Morello said that she needed to make his brother happy, period. He never asked her to do any of that, she didn't need to do any of that really, but we didn't got too much of a choice in a filthy playthrough. I've got no problem with it other than the fact that it was too sudden, too unnecessary and with a meaningless character no one cares.

Actually she wouldn't even appreciate it as she did, she wouldn't have sexual thoughts and not get that much excited out of it without feeling even more guilty about it thus ruining the good feeling.
It's her build up until now, this last update made her a slut too much faster than the usual pace. If she felt terrible guilty about what she did or the guy was manipulative or forceful, than that was golden. It would be more like Aiden's blackmail than this sudden surge of nonsense.

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Bane71

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I already did, i'll hold the pledge for now. Maybe search some new devs with promising projects instead.
If the next updates get better, i will give my support, if not... well, i hope we won't get a lazy ending or a sudden disappearence.
A reasonable decision, personally I also do not patronize L&P yet, and I do not even consider others, they are not interesting to me.
 

Kodek

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A reasonable decision, personally I also do not patronize L&P yet, and I do not even consider others, they are not interesting to me.
And that's cool. I personally do it because i like to see good projects come to light or even feel part of some. Don't need to be especifically games too.
 

GingerSweetGirl

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The prison scene sure has everyone's attention.

Here's something to think about if your version of Sophia is on the Filthy Route: this is one of the first opportunities we've had to interact with an unrelated man in a sexually charged situation.

Think about that.

After all of the updates, over all of these years, most of the men that Sophia has had to deal with are either related (by blood or other relationship), young, or professional associates. Since the movers, I don't believe there has been a man in Sophia's life that doesn't fall into one of those categories. Larry is the rare man that is purely someone outside of her social sphere, and that does change things. While nothing about this situation is "normal", Sophia also isn't limited by societal expectations like she is with the other men in her life. Larry is a blank slate, the rules of their relationship are not written yet. Not even DeShawn is as removed from her social sphere as Larry is.

I look at her interaction with Larry as the first opportunity we've had to see just how corrupted she has become. As I see it, the insinuations are clear:

1. Sophia isn't as innocent as we have been led to believe.
2. The taboo nature of her other relationships are the primary issue holding her back.

I've seen a few people mention how it doesn't make sense to them that Sophia would be so aggressive with Larry when she has rejected/fought against relationships with other men that she knows better. But clearly L&P is telling us that the taboos of incest and age are not going to be brushed aside easily. At the same time, Sophia is not a woman without desires and a sultry (not sluty!) side. When given the opportunity to be playful with an unrelated man who desires her, she wasn't appalled. The corruption is taking its toll. This is what we've been waiting for, it's just happening in a way that we didn't expect.

This leads me to believe that the first man to have sex with her that isn't Liam will be someone unrelated and older. Sam, Dylan, Aiden, Zach, etc, I think are out of the running. The pathway to her cheating now goes through the Morello plotline. She wants a man, not a boy, and frankly I think that makes total sense.

Perhaps too many of us have become too accustomed to incest storylines, but it seems L&P is digging in against the idea that incest will come easy. If you're into the realism of this story, this makes complete sense.

There's another benefit to this. It gives Sophia as a character more agency over her story. Instead of being the damsel in distress that is being corrupted, she is a woman who is owning her sexuality. That doesn't mean she's going to fuck everyone in sight, but it does make her a more interesting character. Instead of her constant hemming and hawing over her odd sexual interactions with her kids, we finally have a chance to see Sophia being assertive and proactive in her own story.


The problem with this thought is that L&P didn't really lay much ground work for it. I still maintain my poor opinion of this update.
 
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