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But now I'm really getting curious? Where does the sudden certainty come from? I also hope that Dylan will sexually challenge his mother, become a bit of a "pimp"/accomplice, just to watch as a cuckold, and take an active role as a lover at the events, as "Aiden" without blackmail, but I've only seen that as my perverted pipe dream so far. Now I'm surprised by their contribution.
It was something that was put forward a while back where Dylan could have his mother or watch her with other people but none of this is confirmed so it is just conjecture but we do know that Dylan has some fetishes that we have not seen yet.
 
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hzjujk

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It was something that was put forward a while back where Dylan could have his mother or watch her with other people but none of this is confirmed so it is just conjecture but we do know that Dylan has some fetishes that we have not seen yet.
Now I still have to pester them a little. Who is "We I am not one of them. :devilish:
 

armion82

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Why is everyone hating on the new animations ? Its actually really fucking good the whole animation has movements head,legs.feet,blinking,hair Fuck even the necklace even moves. Fuck even the top animators dont have the kind of movements
It's really smooth has sound what more do you people want lol
Two problems.
1.The animation is with characters no one cares about.If it was Sophia or at least Patricia or Ellie he can get a pass.
2.It took too much time for such a short animation.
For the same amount of time we got 50 times more animations in TGO from NLT.

It's better then 95% of games on here tho :D And i have played a lot. And i can see it would take long to make some blender animators take months for a 30 sec -1 min clip. and this guy is using daz plus making all this still renders can't really blame the guy
You must start immediately playing more games.You can find at least 20 games with simular or even better animations in top 3 pages.

or on 95% and L&P is like ooo hang on guys i want do add a cute new amination of Sophia closing the door, you will see, it's gonna be worth it :sneaky:
Do you guys remember the time when opening and closing the door was used to make up the time the console need to load next region of a game?
 
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Yall over here talking about NLT, I wish Jackerman was part of this game. It would probably be the best game ever made.
Jackerman does pretty awesome work but the movements with his work are pretty unrealistic in my opinion and somewhat repetitive. I really liked the ones L&P delivered and found them better. Bottom line both are pretty good fap material. So my penis gave a thumbs up for both but in terms of progression of the VN industry I think L&P‘s guy did a better job. I personally want more of this!

Remember it‘s just an opinion. Don‘t get upset you toxic bunch. ;)
 

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It's not really the attempt at greater than average realism that's the problem with AWAM. It's a big part of what attracted me to pursue it all those years ago. I couldn't properly appreciate all those games where relatively young men managed to assemble a harem, or the women with their stupid "ahegao" faces & air-bag breasts. There was much, much more I found not to like & then along came AWAM, which back then seemed as though it was going to be genuinely erotic, written & illustrated by an adult for adults. At the outset it promised a greater level of credibility & delivered on this IMO.

If the attempt at some form of realism, ( an 'ism' which has been declining IMHO), was abandoned completely, AWAM would still exist but many fans would decide to give it a miss, as yet another example of averagely concocted juvenile porn. There is every reason to stick with the notorious "slow burn" of AWAM & if anything I would say that the timetable of 30 playable days for Sophia to commit adultery, (probably with several people), is an absolute minimum of what's needed for disbelief to be suspended. It's because I value some 'realism' that I raised the issue of the odd choice of clothing.

This famous lack of extra-marital sex & the time that's being taken to remedy it stems solely from the Dev's observable commitment to slowing down the roll-out of the game/VN to the point where there can be few fans left who sincerely believe it will ever be finished, or if it is, may not be around to see it. Like you, I sometimes regret becoming addicted to this stuff & I definitely still wish it to succeed, (as a pirate, if only from enlightened self-interest) but for the last 2 years at least, all the indications have been "contra".
If I read you correctly you seem to say that the realism is declining and you want to keep it (my best effort to restate while summarizing your position). I disagree a bit as I think something has to give - either the realism or the high quality images and animations. This is of course in order to have the extra marital sex occur before we all die. So a happy medium is needed.

My personal belief is that the quality should be decreased a bit, especially for the surroundings. Also, new story lines should be limited (seems like the developer wants to introduce more and more plots).
 
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dolfe67

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Not sure why your trying to compare renpy to rpgm there 2 different engines
Renpy and RPGM are game engines, not render/animation creators. You make them with DAZ or Blender or whatever and then you implement them in Renpy or RPGM. So we can in fact compare them.

About the animations in this game, they're better than most of other similar games yes, but the characters still seem stiff and fake. For me it wasn't worth it, because 1) I didn't care about the characters involved, it didn't make me hard 2) it delayed the game too much for an already couple decades scheduled game, without animations
 

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I could agree that AWAM progress is very slow, but NLT has at least 10x more money from supporters, 10x worst story (this is my opinion), animation without hair movement and models with awful plastic skin.
The amount of money can't make up for the time it took to finish a total of less than 30 seconds unique animations.
Or you seriously think that because he is making 10 times less money,he can work 10 times slower?
It's the other way around.The more money L&P is making the slower he is working.
Not to mention we don't need next gen animations to make the game better.
Watching tertiary characters having sex(or rape)it's not really what I call a progress.
 

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Renpy and RPGM are game engines, not render/animation creators. You make them with DAZ or Blender or whatever and then you implement them in Renpy or RPGM. So we can in fact compare them.

About the animations in this game, they're better than most of other similar games yes, but the characters still seem stiff and fake. For me it wasn't worth it, because 1) I didn't care about the characters involved, it didn't make me hard 2) it delayed the game too much for an already couple decades scheduled game, without animations
No you can't if its a visual novel like awam you have still renders and have 100's of renders for the dialogue. Then rpgm is just you running around a map with 1-2 renders for the dialogue [NTL] Cough Cough And has the same renders.
 
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It's not really the attempt at greater than average realism that's the problem with AWAM. It's a big part of what attracted me to pursue it all those years ago. I couldn't properly appreciate all those games where relatively young men managed to assemble a harem, or the women with their stupid "ahegao" faces & air-bag breasts. There was much, much more I found not to like & then along came AWAM, which back then seemed as though it was going to be genuinely erotic, written & illustrated by an adult for adults. At the outset it promised a greater level of credibility & delivered on this IMO.

If the attempt at some form of realism, ( an 'ism' which has been declining IMHO), was abandoned completely, AWAM would still exist but many fans would decide to give it a miss, as yet another example of averagely concocted juvenile porn. There is every reason to stick with the notorious "slow burn" of AWAM & if anything I would say that the timetable of 30 playable days for Sophia to commit adultery, (probably with several people), is an absolute minimum of what's needed for disbelief to be suspended. It's because I value some 'realism' that I raised the issue of the odd choice of clothing.

This famous lack of extra-marital sex & the time that's being taken to remedy it stems solely from the Dev's observable commitment to slowing down the roll-out of the game/VN to the point where there can be few fans left who sincerely believe it will ever be finished, or if it is, may not be around to see it. Like you, I sometimes regret becoming addicted to this stuff & I definitely still wish it to succeed, (as a pirate, if only from enlightened self-interest) but for the last 2 years at least, all the indications have been "contra".
On the question of realism/authenticity (which I have already expressed an opinion) affecting a drop in fan numbers, you'll note patron numbers have currently reached an all time high. Surely you'll concede L&P must be getting something right, at least if you happen to be on the winning side?
 
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Two problems.
1.The animation is with characters no one cares about.If it was Sophia or at least Patricia or Ellie he can get a pass.
2.It took too much time for such a short animation.
For the same amount of time we got 50 times more animations in TGO from NLT.


You must start immediately playing more games.You can find at least 20 games with simular or even better animations in top 3 pages.


Do you guys remember the time when opening and closing the door was used to make up the time the console need to load next region of a game?
You have no idea how many i have played on here, Please tell me a games with good animations, Yeah theres a few with good ones but not many most are just daz crap
 

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I don't think you know what a top animator is.
The animations were good but Jen looks like she's holding a fart the entire time, andre looks like he was dealt a good poker hand and aiden looks like he's trying to look focused while letting a fart of his own without anyone noticing.

Plus they add nothing to the game, the entire thing could have been published without the animation and no one would have missed them. That other dude who said that those animations would be made in days instead of months was actually right, no wonder L&P deleted his post.
Quite agree. There's something about L&P's animation characters that reminds me of the Thunderbirds puppets (if anyone remembers these?).
What's regarded as good animation these days is getting very near to reality.
 

hmc15

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From what L&P said about the aminations that is what annoyed people and also the lengh of time it took.
One quote form L&P
The animations we're working on are supposed to be of higher quality and not such you see in other games of this kind! That's why it also takes a little longer.


You'll get a great high quality animation promo very soon. This should at least be a little compensation for the longer wait because of them. And with such kind of animations it is a big deal People who're working in this field need sometimes up to 3 months for just one animation! Of course these are absolutely top notch animations, best of the best! We're not making it that complicated (at least for this update) but it still needs more time than from other games which just do basic simple animations without much skills!
There is no "we". L&P is doing this all solo hence 3 minute update
 

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In future within 4 Playable day there will be hetero sex scenes with male character any one guess who is that first luckiest person.
 

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In future within 4 Playable day there will be hetero sex scenes with male character any one guess who is that first luckiest person.
For me it's very likely that these next straight sex scenes will be with Liam unfortunately. I know that Sophia's corruption is well advanced, but I don't see her having sex with anyone other than her husband for now.
 
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