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I don't understand how for some of the forum the tipping point of Sophia's sanity is the outfit she is going to choose to meet Aiden. As if she hadn't done some crazier stuff before that.
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It's because the choice of clothing sends a message to everyone seeing it about who & what you are, or who & what you think you are. Clothing for most people is not an afterthought, despite what they might say. You can't keep that signal in your head, or mask it from other people. Sophia always picks her outfits after due consideration. Attending a meeting with a dangerous gang, who have made it clear that they're not bound by normal codes of behaviour, whose interest in Sophia has been confirmed as sexually motivated, along with the power factor being crystal clear, wearing an outfit that's both sexy & accessible is the epitome of insanity.
At least it would be in RL, unless the message being conveyed was an invitation. This isn't about a woman's, (or a man's), freedom to wear what they choose without being in jeopardy. It's about the above factors. If L&P chooses to do something that makes it all semi-believable we won't know for quite a while yet but I certainly hope he tries.
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The tipping point on the Aiden route from what I can tell is letting Dylan sit on Sophia's lap. It's illegal, dangerous and stupid, considering it's just as easy for Carl to bring another car along.
Accepting Aiden's tasks itself and allowing herself to be coerced by a teenager is stupid. It takes very little discussion with her friends and family to come up with a solution.
At least on the Ellie route the two showering together, the odd behaviour is normalised. Ellie mentions that Christine showers with her Mom, so it's not that odd.
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Not to be a bitch, but a minor correction. It's "suspension of disbelief" because you are suspending your mind's urge to disbelieve what you're seeing. So you suspend that urge so that you can go along with the game. If you suspended your belief you wouldn't believe anything.
Ok grammar Nazi time is over.
The challenge isn't so much that realism is being sacrificed, it's that the rules the game established are being ignored. The rules, as they were established, set the expectations of how things would progress. Yes, corruption would make Sophia do things that were impossible at the beginning, but that corruption should fall within the framework of the established rules.
But honestly, I'm kinda over it. A game needs to be fun, and this game with it's painfully slow development, isn't fun anymore. While no one wants a fuckfest, I find myself painting my nails while slowly working my way through the game now. At this point, I'm all for breaking the rules and throwing out all the established world building out if it gets us something that's actually fun. This game takes itself so serious that I just want to yell at L&P to lighten up and have a little fun.
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Splitting PD 13 in 2 will means that we would get only one update for the whole year.
Because there is simply no way he can release all the events until the end of 2022.
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Even a sixth sense warns Sophia by telling her. You still have time to leave Aiden's hideout and you can still do so. It was a pity sixth sense hadn't warned her that she had chosen the wrong outfit for the meeting. As for Sophia's outfit, it's not sexy, at best, seductive. The outfit says a lot about a person. When they see you, that's how they write you. The appearance of the outfit may indicate Sophia's corruption, but she also goes to the music concert in the wrong outfit? Has she had two failures in fashion?
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Yes, or rather L&P has, plus they're not minor & this from a wardrobe so extensive that, like royalty from a previous era, she's never seen in the same thing twice. Why wear inappropriate outfits? I can guess why but I'm not wanting to write another lengthy comment. Also 'it's not moving'.
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I agree, Sophia sitting on Dylan's laps would be much better, as it's more common that women sit on man's laps
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What you say about the established rules is very interesting. Let's see if the game follows the rules of Sophia following Aiden to a dangerous place in a sexy outfit.
Sophia wearing a catwoman sexy as hell outfit following Aiden out of City. Is an explicit demand of Aiden, but nobody forces Sophia to put herself in a situation much more dangerous than dressing sexy to meet Aiden. It seems that the rule that Sophia can dress sexy in front of Aiden without being too worried holds.
A WIFE AND A MOTHER, HOW FAR WOULD YOU GO?
Name of the game give you a clue what the game is about. Looks like question "how far you go?" it's not for Sophia, it's for player. You always have Good Wife or Filthy choices. If you want a completely realistic game, you have the green button option. If you want a corruption game sacrificing pure realism, you have the red button. So the game is made for all kinds of players.
If you finally decide to go the red button route the game becomes a succession of situations where Sophia has just wearing the wrong clothes in many situations. It's a "wrong outfit simulator". I have 116 Filthy points that mean Sophia has been an irresponsible wife and mother. So I don't expect her to be very responsible from now on.
Let's see some screens Sophia in some situations where it's not wearing outfit appropriately
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I don't think we're at a sticking point where events are accelerating. I think the corruption plot has cruising speed since the beginning of the game.
I don't think Sophia's sixth sense was wrong. What happens is that his desire for adventure, his arousement, and his attraction-hate for Aiden have prevailed. If you have chosen to be a wife who doesn't fuck her husband, everything makes sense.
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Funnily enough, with my whopping total of 18 Filthy points, my favourite scenes have her wearing outfits entirely appropriate for the situation. Namely, a club outfit to visit a nightclub, a bikini when hanging out with the girls by the pool, and nothing at all in the shower
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She was dressed appropriately for the massage parlor. This picture does not match the fact that Sophia was not properly dressed, it seems that she is trying to fight her sixth sense which is suppressing her.
I think some of us are getting carried away with a notion of over-realism in this game to authenticate it. Personally, I think L&P gets it mainly right.
In true RL, reality is habitually routine, repetitive and dull. L&P also realises this. Hell, we even get complaints of,
"Who wants to see Sophia brushing her teeth?". Answer, because they'd rather get instant fap.
Well, what IS it that AWAM fans want? With L&P you get both (to a degree!) as he tries to draw a balance, albeit it painfully slowly, but let's not go there again....
Many of us enjoy reading stories, watching dramas etc. precisely because they include a large element of fantasy, shock and suspense that stimulate the senses. We certainly wouldn't be drawn to stories that document every-day norm unless drawn to non-fiction, doing some analysis, or historical research.
AWAM is no different. It's a picture-book erotic novel.
Now the outfit that's causing controversy.
Sophia's outfit choice for the Aiden meeting may not fit into everyones idea of real life, but actually it's not as short or arguably sexy as the the little blue number worn out that time after shopping with Alyssa, which practically had her boobs falling out in front. I don't particularly like this new outfit either, but would I rather see her in some frump outfit and flats?
Of course Sophia has a choice to wear what she wants, for whatever reason (as many women with nice figures do), dressing up, or down. Women do so for themselves, or to attract attention from guys or other women, sometimes even for their husbands!
But remember, while dressing up might make a woman more vulnerable in certain situations, on the flip side she can also inherit a large degree of power and authority, especially over men. Yes, many of us still live in societies when you can admire, but NOT touch. NOR does dressing sexily imply a woman is a slut, ffs.
Some of us might recall the 1980's and 90's when many women dressed sharply and sexily in outfits known as "power suits", precisely to exert authority and "girl-power" in social or corporate environments.
Regards dress sense and keeping a healthy figure, the RL "norm" seen these days in western society is mainly excess, ease of fit and corpulence. But if that's what you want fine, it isn't what I want.
In true RL, reality is habitually routine, repetitive and dull. L&P also realises this. Hell, we even get complaints of,
"Who wants to see Sophia brushing her teeth?". Answer, because they'd rather get instant fap.
Well, what IS it that AWAM fans want? With L&P you get both (to a degree!) as he tries to draw a balance, albeit it painfully slowly, but let's not go there again....
Many of us enjoy reading stories, watching dramas etc. precisely because they include a large element of fantasy, shock and suspense that stimulate the senses. We certainly wouldn't be drawn to stories that document every-day norm unless drawn to non-fiction, doing some analysis, or historical research.
AWAM is no different. It's a picture-book erotic novel.
Now the outfit that's causing controversy.
Sophia's outfit choice for the Aiden meeting may not fit into everyones idea of real life, but actually it's not as short or arguably sexy as the the little blue number worn out that time after shopping with Alyssa, which practically had her boobs falling out in front. I don't particularly like this new outfit either, but would I rather see her in some frump outfit and flats?
Of course Sophia has a choice to wear what she wants, for whatever reason (as many women with nice figures do), dressing up, or down. Women do so for themselves, or to attract attention from guys or other women, sometimes even for their husbands!
But remember, while dressing up might make a woman more vulnerable in certain situations, on the flip side she can also inherit a large degree of power and authority, especially over men. Yes, many of us still live in societies when you can admire, but NOT touch. NOR does dressing sexily imply a woman is a slut, ffs.
Some of us might recall the 1980's and 90's when many women dressed sharply and sexily in outfits known as "power suits", precisely to exert authority and "girl-power" in social or corporate environments.
Regards dress sense and keeping a healthy figure, the RL "norm" seen these days in western society is mainly excess, ease of fit and corpulence. But if that's what you want fine, it isn't what I want.
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in LP's defence, i would say the music concert's outfit was his patrons' failure, not his
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thank god this is not your game then
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I think it's his fault because he gave Patrons a poll choice. In what outfit Sophia will go to a musical concert. He could decide for himself what outfit Sophia would wear.
Anyway, regardless of the number of Filthy points, I can't avoid the word fight with Aiden outside the classroom. Just as little as the slap in the face for Andre. Sophia hates Aiden! He doesn't need to touch her at all. Just him or the gang letting their eyes wander over Sophia's body should make Sophia uncomfortable.
That means for me, Sophia would simply not go dressed like that to the meeting with Aiden. If only because we can assume that this meeting place is in an area that screams "danger".
But you're right, it's nicer to see Sophia in such an outfit than in a t-shirt and jeans and a jacket buttoned up to the top. And in the end it won't be our decision, unless I asked Morello for help or have Sophia turn around when she sees Aiden isn't alone, which will play out in this meeting with Aiden. L&P will then tell the story completely independent of what he put on Sophia.
And yet, when the situation escalates at the meeting, quite a few members here will argue that Sophia's choice of clothes contributed to this escalation or even triggered it ("She always wanted it! - I knew it!"). Even if the developer does not let say that so explicitly during the event at all. And exactly here is the point where for me the friction with reality is the greatest. L&P makes it too easy for the player to find an excuse for putting Sophia in a situation like this.
But the whole discussion is only theoretical. There's a good chance Sophia will come to Aiden, have an exchange of words, be informed of the contents of the 5th task, and leave. End of scene - and all the excitement here in this forum was for nothing.
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Take into account that we are speculating incredible things about what will happen, and it usually ends with a simple situation.
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Dylan's not a man though, he's a boy. And boys sit on their momma's laps
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They all have a pretty unpleasant look, I think it's pretty funny to walk around in sexy clothes among such guys)
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