Radoslaw Wolf

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So are u saying Lust & Passion is not Metallica - instead Nirvana only great first 2 years then no more albums to deliver ??

Are you saying he should kill himself ??

I doubt he is born deaf or genius. Just born liar :) If you know what I mean :rolleyes:
I might have some clue, yeah :sneaky:
 
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hzjujk

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Post from L&P

"Cant say yet. But over 100 for sure."
What? Over a hundred pictures, just for Sophia to learn the contents of the 5th task, we can see Morello's men beating Aiden's face and a possible hearty hug Sophia from Jennifer because she is now also rid of Aiden.
This can also be told with 30 pictures, because most of the event would only be dialogues between people.
But what I want to get at with this post is that it looks to me as if those who say that in this event the Andres revenge for the slap could play a bigger role are right.
If so, this will be another event where opinions will be divided. Some will say, what a shit, to have to watch Sophia being sexually abused. And others will say that Sophia had a look of pleasure on her face while Andre was groping her.
 

armion82

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You forgot about animations. If there are only 2 more updates with animations, you can probably add another 4-6 months. And for days off etc., if he's taking 10-14 days off after every update (which he's done pretty much after every single release), you can add way more than 1 month to the development. I think we are closer to ~20 months until PD13 is complete. But hey, I really do hope that I'm wrong here. lol
I did not.I was just trying to be way more optimistic than I should probably be.
But yes the 20 months sounds as reasonable assumption.
Of course that pretty much will leads to more than 2 full years just for playable day 13.
The other way would be for him to finally become serious about the whole thing, up his game, build a team, embrace some discipline, work ethics, good practices. But that, I guess, is beyond his reach, isn't it?
Making a team will only help if he still follow my plan and finish each of the next 8 updates in less than 4 weeks.
Otherwise there is no improvement at all.
 
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Sadowdark

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Seeing her in that last pic with her nipples poking out gives me an idea for one of Aiden's tasks, maybe he'll make her get her nips pierced. Hmm, just thought of another one, they've already introduced sex toys and Sophia has already used 'Antonio', so Aiden will make her use a 'Lush' toy and he has the control on his phone and of course she's only allowed to wear a mini skirt and no panties.
L&P once said he didn't want sex toys for Sophia. I'm back from banishment
 

armion82

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What? Over a hundred pictures, just for Sophia to learn the contents of the 5th task, we can see Morello's men beating Aiden's face and a possible hearty hug Sophia from Jennifer because she is now also rid of Aiden.
This can also be told with 30 pictures, because most of the event would only be dialogues between people.
But what I want to get at with this post is that it looks to me as if those who say that in this event the Andres revenge for the slap could play a bigger role are right.
If so, this will be another event where opinions will be divided. Some will say, what a shit, to have to watch Sophia being sexually abused. And others will say that Sophia had a look of pleasure on her face while Andre was groping her.
In the last update the whole dialogue outside the classroom was like 40 renders,so we can expect something like that again,probably even more because we have way more than just 3 people.
The Morello part at least another 50 renders.
I expect the walking before and after the scene will be another 10 renders.
 

dolfe67

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On one hand people can do whatever they please with their money, including burning it and wiping their asses with it. Many here argue it's not a customer-vendor relation, so it's justifiable. I tend to disagree because even if it's a patron-protege one, it must bring some easthetical value added.
I prefer that people support projects on patreon with a few bucks rather than them spending their wages in microtransactions, lootboxes or NFT scams
 

Hotcoupleeasy

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A wife and mother and 4 boys !
Dylan, Sam, Zac and Ayden. The four of them had erotic encounter with Sophia. But : with Dylan she did it for medical or social reasons . With Ayden she did it to protect her son . For Sam she had intimate time but it was Sam's initiative always though Sophia liked it . Zac the only character that Sophia initiate the moves with him .
Zac or Sam will be her first.
 

ancienregimele

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I don't think Mozart or Botticelli would have lasted long in any palace if they had continued to deliver nothing but empty promises. Or at least serve as toys for the nobles, if you know what I'm talking about :sneaky:
Although, Leonardo da Vinci never finished a commission. It's the Patreon model that's no longer fit for purpose, IMO. It should be replaced with a straightforward customer/provider set-up. I don't say this lightly or negatively. I say this after seeing the situation deteriorate year on year for quite some time.
 

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He also said bout finding some1 to help him sped up updts 3 years ago when I was on Patreon. Fuck him. I wouldnt believe him anymore. Now I read this ''team'' thing that @Radoslova Wolf mention above and it makes me angry cause its almost 6 years. Little 2late
You can argue he did "hire someone" to help him out (the mysterious animator). Though instead of speeding up development, it delays it even more.
 
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armion82

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And your plan is to stay on thread and write billion comments like I see some of ya'll here have from 5k to 10k plus , I mean wtf where is the life dude outside this area ??

Listen mate...you are here (judge by activity) last decade almost 6 years. If you or anyone else had any plan for L&P or any other developer, you should told him 5 years ago since u r here almost as old as game itself from 2017 .

Now entering 6th year game is not the game at all, your plan is just sarcasm for laughing , and angry REAL FANS with brain doesnt care anymore just jump here from time to time to check apologist, cry babies and smartass wannabes to get a good laugh bout comments.

This site is 1 of most soft thread I have been and 99% is filled by ''men'' so I am embarrassed as an girl that these threads around have more reporting comments than facebook, insta and twitty combined together. Hell yeah , even my grandpa dont report comments on her facebook and believe me she read more insults or vulgar things than we all here every day especially from nuts who likes MILFs .

I understand more than 90% ppl (nerds) here - their life depending from this thread and site, but when I was here long time ago place was more MACHO than rather soft. In other words...any time I jump to a thread it looks like same fucking ppl discuss bout same shit last5 years : ''wow what do u think will Ayden blackmail her'' ?? I mean if thats the most smartest thing to discuss here rather than solve DELAY PROMBLEMS FROM HIS LIES AND PITY UPDATES then so be it.

Developers acting like cry babies they don't listen or cant take ANY NEGATIVE COMMENTS, SUGESTION - WITH THAT, IN PSICHOLOGY PERSON UNWILLING TO LEARN OR FIX THEIR MISTAKE IS MOST PATHTETIC PATOLOGICAL AND UNSTABLE CHARACTER !!

If any of his followers make revolution on Patreon after his first lie about ''MAKING A TEAM TO HELP HIM SPED UP '' 3 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS ON HIS PATREON TOO and call all other followers to quit support him till he fulfill promised land, this game would be finished and nobody would act here like crybaby whenever some REAL MAN HONEST COMMENTS POPS UP !!
Maybe you should try to do some research first?
I was pointing some mistake he was making since 2018.
Guess what-there was a huge purge around that time and at least 100 pages were simply deleted.
 

ancienregimele

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No wonder world is full of low IQ ppl cause in my country if you wanna get paid by month then deliver the work per month.
Its simple as it can be.
It's like that in my country & every country on Earth. It's not like that in Patreonland. [If you start a new job in the UK the norm is to work around a month before you get paid at all, (unless it's potentially dodgy cash-in-hand), regardless of whether you had zero money beforehand. Fuck-up during that time & you're out].

I got tired of the circular discussion & arguments years ago & have put forward ideas for Patreon to change, (because the only change we'll get from L&P, work pattern-wise, is to slow down some more) but you see I have no power to make this happen, nor does anyone here. That's why the same debate repeats over & over. It's a natural reaction to frustration.

So, in order to enjoy this VN, you have to accept that there is nothing ever going to happen to speed things up & go with the 'stagnant' flow. We need to be philosophical about it all. Problem is....with this PD, even I'm having difficulty with those calm thoughts.
 

derek1957

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What? Over a hundred pictures, just for Sophia to learn the contents of the 5th task, we can see Morello's men beating Aiden's face and a possible hearty hug Sophia from Jennifer because she is now also rid of Aiden.
This can also be told with 30 pictures, because most of the event would only be dialogues between people.
But what I want to get at with this post is that it looks to me as if those who say that in this event the Andres revenge for the slap could play a bigger role are right.
If so, this will be another event where opinions will be divided. Some will say, what a shit, to have to watch Sophia being sexually abused. And others will say that Sophia had a look of pleasure on her face while Andre was groping her.
Coming into the meeting, depending on the decisions one took in the previous events, who is angry at who?

Is Sophia angry at Aiden? Besides the usual reasons, for lying about meeting alone? For the sexy outfit she is forced to wear? For their treatment of Jen? For not keeping Andre in line when he groped her bare butt?

Is Sophia especially angry at Andre for groping her?

Is Aiden angry at Sophia for breaking up his and Andre’s fun with Jen? (Personally, I think Aiden might be tired of Sophia constantly talking back to him and swearing at him. But maybe he doesn’t care since she ultimately completes the tasks.)

Is Andre angry at Sophia for slapping him? For thwarting his “animation” with Jen?

Is Andre angry at Aiden for not standing up for him when Sophia slapped him?

Is Aiden angry at Andre for groping Sophia and risking having her refusing future tasks?


I agree that at some point it seems likely that Andre will want justice for getting slapped by Sophia. In this release? Possibly. But if Sophia broke up their tryst with Jen, is that Sophia's bigger crime?
 
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Coming into the meeting, depending on the decisions one took in the previous events, who is angry at who?

Is Sophia angry at Aiden? Besides the usual reasons, for lying about meeting alone? For the sexy outfit she is forced to wear? For their treatment of Jen? For not keeping Andre in line when he groped her bare butt?

Is Sophia especially angry at Andre for groping her?

Is Aiden angry at Sophia for breaking up his and Andre’s fun with Jen? (Personally, I think Aiden might be tired of Sophia constantly talking back to him and swearing at him. But maybe he doesn’t care since she ultimately completes the tasks.)

Is Andre angry at Sophia for slapping him? For thwarting his “animation” with Jen?

Is Andre angry at Aiden for not standing up for him when Sophia slapped him?

Is Aiden angry at Andre for groping Sophia and risking having her refusing future tasks?


I agree that at some point it seems likely that Andre will want justice for getting slapped by Sophia. In this release? Possibly. But if Sophia broke up their tryst with Jen, is that Sophia's bigger crime?
Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.
 

Alley_Cat

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Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.
That's assuming this entire update isn't just an excuse for another Aiden event, since after this, we might not see Aiden again for years until we get to PD16, just as he has risen in popularity.
 
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Sadowdark

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Yes, there are many possible constellations. But as a developer, I would make it easy for myself. And since the slap in Andre's face during the 4th task was unavoidable, I think that only it will play a role, be an anchor point for future events. Everything else, including the sex with Jennifer, I would drop if I were the developer. Otherwise, the decision tree would fan out too far.
Eventually, Andre can wear an outfit that Sophia would not recognize him in, and he can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he accidentally met Sophia in the Mall.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Eventually, Andre can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he would have met Sophia by accident in the Commercial Centrum.
What possible revenge could Dre get that wouldn't require Aiden's uncle to bail him out? Assault of any kind could land him in juvie.
 

TomUK

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Eventually, Andre can get revenge on Sophia so that Aiden doesn't find out. For example, he would have met Sophia by accident in the Commercial Centrum.
Andre doesn't have the get out of jail free card that Aiden has, so if he does anything, Sophie will just report him to the cops and he'll get thrown in jail, I don't see Aiden's uncle trying to get him off.
 
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