VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[udogu]

Second, L&P then starts the demise the douche college boyfriend guy. Ellie must be saved. His penis was too scary. However, it did the necessary job of driving Ellie terrified and curious into her mother's showering arms. He served his purpose and we needed to cut down the storylines.

I've been out of the loop for a while too, but damn, no ass-busting threesome with Sophia and Ellie?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Thank you for the few listed pairings I missed.

Now the question is how to get it.

Sophia - Patricia : If on the casino night in the club Patricia kisses Sophia because of the bet, is that already this pairing?

Ellie - Sam : I couldn't even begin to get it right. I think only had 2 situations where both were locally nearby. In the intro, before first morning and when Sam goes to the trampoline with Dylan, just before Julia confided in Ellie about her inclination.

Dylan - Emma : Here too, they were never in the same room. And Emma rarely has contact. 1st conversation after the 1st lesson. No selection there. Then an invitation to go shopping with Ellie. Here are just choices for plus points at Ellie. Except for the last selection, lesbian points at Emma. No matter how I decide on the last selection, she will leave my class in the next lesson. The only difference is whether she gives Sophia a kiss or not.

Dylan - Amber : Except for the pool scene where Dylan duels with Emma vs Sophia and Sam, nothing else happened. If that's supposed to count as a pairing.

Dylan - Marie : Apart from the half-hearted flirting in the yoga club, there was nothing else. Does that count as a pairing?

Would be nice if someone can explain the ways. The walkthrough only helped me with the pairings I found myself.

One last question, although this discussion is getting more than heated right now. Is choosing to turn the mafia on Aidan the ultimate end to blackmail? And please only answer this question and not how great you all think Aidan is or how NOT, there are already enough other discussions. I'm rather happy that there is a choice, for both possibilities, call mafia or continue tormenting Sophia until Aiden can finally rape her with all his homies (his fantasy, just before the mafia comes).

Thanks for the answers.

Sophia/Patricia - after the Nightclub, there is also the Yoga event on PD11. But PD14 upcoming is the museum date with Jason and Hari, and PD15 is the all-day event at Patricia's friend's horse ranch.

Dylan/Emma - if you have all points with Emma and are doing Aiden's tasks, one day after school Sophia asks Dylan about Emma, which leads to an Emma event on PD12. There will also be an event later this PD.

Dylan/Amber - yes there is only the chicken fight so far, but another Dylan/Amber event next update

Dylan/Marie - while it was just the Yoga event so far, a lot of effort appears to have gone into the pairing. If you play the event from Sophia's POV, it automatically sets Marie to start liking Dylan. The only way to prevent it is to play Dylan's POV and answer all from Marie wrong, in which case Patricia questions if Dylan is a moron and to try better next time. Which happens to be later this PD.

So while much of the pairings I've mentioned may not seem like much if you play the game, there is enough information from L&P to know which have a future. The complete lack of confirmation of Dylan ending up with anybody when playing the bonus storyline is another reason I don't count Dylan/Ellie or Dylan/Christine as a pairing

 

[maybes4]

Getting an good route ending like this before the coming of the next Ice Age would be great in general. But as Alley Cat mentioned in his post, there would changes among the SOs of the kids. Logan might be possible even on the good route, if Adam would be a bit more plausible. But Dylan´s girlfriend would be either Marie or Christine. Christine might be mischievious, but she has a soft spot for Dylan from early on.

What is SO?
and i think other ending of ellie story will be in dlc. In this main story, we ll just have 1 option for her

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I believe Ellie meeting Logan is a Filthy route choice and if she doesn't meet him, she ends up going out with Adam, the MVP of her school's basketball team. I'm not sure, but I think it's still possible to hook Ellie up with Jules on the GW route.

Similarly with Amber. The GW option in this case is Marie, not Amber. Without Dylan points, you don't get the chicken fight scene, so nothing happens with Amber.

Adam? Who the fuck is he?
Sorry I can’t remember every guy in this game. Is he white, black, Spanish, Asian, Indian etc?

 

[Alley_Cat]

What is SO?
and i think other ending of ellie story will be in dlc. In this main story, we ll just have 1 option for her

Significant Other. The main time I've heard it used is when "partner" is used in a different context, like a cop, where their partner is who they work with, but their Significant Other is their boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse etc.

As opposed to a Romance Option or Love Interest, an SO tends to be an already commited relationship. So Liam would be Sophia's SO, but Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia would be Sophia's RO or LIs

Adam? Who the fuck is he?
Sorry I can’t remember every guy in this game. Is he white, black, Spanish, Asian, Indian etc?

Adam is only mentioned in passing during one of the early Ellie showers. That he is the MVP of the basketball team at Ellie's school is all we know of him

 

[Bibifoc]

I can't play part two. I downloaded part one. Finished it .150. It never gives me option for final save.

That means your AWAM Part 1 isn't up to date. You have to install a .

 

[Turret]

Significant Other. The main time I've heard it used is when "partner" is used in a different context, like a cop, where their partner is who they work with, but their Significant Other is their boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse etc.

As opposed to a Romance Option or Love Interest, an SO tends to be an already commited relationship. So Liam would be Sophia's SO, but Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia would be Sophia's RO or LIs

Adam is only mentioned in passing during one of the early Ellie showers. That he is the MVP of the basketball team at Ellie's school is all we know of him

Thank you for this explanation! I am a non-english native speaker and to this day I found Significant Other mostly as deep Love interests, good to know that there is a different variant on this.

 

[hzjujk]

Here is my review and a few random comments on v0.161. Feel free to skip this if you haven’t seen the Aiden Meeting, don’t care for Aiden or non-consensual fantasies, or don’t care about my opinions.

I don’t have a lot of eloquent thoughts about the events, except that after watching it a number of times, I really like it, a lot. Perhaps one of my favorite events of any path. I was hoping for some subtle degradation or humiliation, but it went further than I expected. Nothing much subtle or sophisticated about Aiden here, he is just an arrogant immature punk who got his hot teacher alone surrounded by his gang and took advantage of the blackmail/extortion situation to sexually humiliate and degrade and bully her and have some fun with his boys at her expense. I had expected Aiden to be a bit more subtle; such as perhaps making Sophia lift her clothes on the pretense that she might be wired. Instead, he is just a crude punk kid, going all “Show us your tits!” and “Let my buddies play with you a while.” The little bit of flashing and groping may be mild in the big scheme of things that could have happened in that alley, but for me it was still a bit jarring to see her go through that. I didn’t expect the gang grope. Others did, they were right, and I was wrong.

I have to admit that I increased the erotica fifty present, by cheating. I play both the breast exposure AND the groping parts. I’m not a gamer, I created a video that plays the groping part right after the breast exposure as if they were part of the same scene. So between the three main actions – the skirt lift, the breasts flash, and the gang groping, that is quite a gauntlet of sexual harassment and humiliation for a woman to go through at one time.

The other thing I did is put the first few renders from the Morello route into the Aiden route, as it’s interesting, and clarifying, to hear Aiden tell his gang that his hot teacher is coming over because she likes bad boys and will soon be pleasuring all of them. The gang is dumb enough to believe it. This dialog likely encourages the gang, if they needed encouragement, to treat Aiden’s classy married teacher as a “bitch from the streets” as she once put it.

The first time or two I go through an event, I tend to be picky, and think about all the things I would do differently. Once I get past my own ego, opinions, and expectations, and just watch it for what it is, it’s much better. And instead of obsessing on what’s NOT there, I concentrate on the details that ARE there that make it erotic.

Going into the event, IF there was to be forced exposure and fondling, I wondered if Sophia would find any of it arousing like she does when she is forced to be exposed in front of her class or the art class, or if she would find no pleasure in it, as she is when she has been forced to expose herself for Aiden and Andre alone in the past. Little doubt about it, Sophia took NO pleasure from any of what she was forced to do in this release. It was all about her humiliation, degradation, and embarrassment. What does that mean for future tasks? Not so much “corruption” as “How far would you go if forced into unwanted sexual acts?”

Just perhaps, now that anti-Aiden players have a path that doesn’t include the Aiden route, the developer might now turn the path into less of a forced-pleasure/arousal feel and more just forced humiliation?

Interesting choice that Aiden had Sophia make – either “expose your breasts and nobody will touch you”; or a slightly lesser-defined “allow the gang play with you over your clothes”. I would think that a vast majority of women in this situation would choose the breasts exposure over being gang groped, but perhaps not. Anybody have an opinion?

A very quick note on The Dress. Not that it’s at all important to me. Now that we know what Aiden ordered Sophia to wear, which I think was very sexy and a good choice for the game, let’s not forget that this dress came out of Sophia’s own closet. Unless she bought it for Aiden’s benefit before Task 2, it’s her own dress. On her own she may not ever wear it with stocking tops showing, but may wear it with a strapless bra or braless. But it is sexy, small, and tight. Where would she normally wear it? To a biker bar?

Other than all of Sophia’s swearing at Aiden and the others, which is becoming the norm, and telling Aiden what she’s not going to do just before she does it, Sophia keeps as much composure as could be expected. Sometimes I would like to have seen a little less anger and more humiliation in Sophia’s eyes or in her body language. The dialog says that she’s “visibly uncomfortable”, but I don’t see much of that. But here she is often using the same humiliated facial expression that she had when she first had to lift her skirt and show her panties to Aiden and Andre in Task 2, which is the scene that got me hooked on this game. So I shouldn’t nitpick.

Speaking of Sophia's swearing and talking back to Aiden - I had been thinking that perhaps Aiden would get tired of it. Now I'm thinking that a brat like Aiden has taken pleasure his whole life by getting teachers to get mad, shout, and get red in the face and lose their cool by his doing. It's his life's work. So maybe he gets off when Sophia swears at him and calls him names. It shows that he is getting under Sophia's skin.

The animation of Sophia’s breasts falling out of her top was okay for what it was. Generic and faceless though. Putting them back wasn’t quite so interesting. But I’m guessing that these were made from some standard “breasts falling out” program and didn’t take much development time. I put the “walking” animation back into my video version.

I generally tend to play this less as a game than a series of linked erotic stories. That’s why I’m not as well-versed points or what stories and characters are on which path. I have my favorite paths, but I play them all, at least once. A while back, a well-known troll scoffed at the idea that L&P actually got aroused by his own renders and typed renders with one hand and fapped with the other. While I didn’t need that image put in my head, I do believe that most of these events are fantasies long stored in L&P’s personal spank bank that he organized together to make his “How Far Would You Go?” story. Why put all this work into graphics if you don’t enjoy them yourself? This explains to me why the events don’t create a seamless narrative, why bonus events pop up, and why there are secondary MCs; because the developer is more interested in what is erotic to him, and probably to us, than perfecting every little detail and piece of gaming logic. My opinion.



A list of some of my favorite parts:

- Andre getting his revenge, feeling Sophia’s bare ass as he talks trash to her. (In the breast-exposure scene, this was also Andre’s first time seeing his teacher’s completely bare breasts. It’s not acknowledged in the scene, and I’d like to have seen a bigger deal made of it.) A nitpick is that Andre isn’t shown with his hand squarely groping her butt, like it was in the classroom or like what the black guy did in this scene. Andre’s hand is sort of off to the side. But the narration said he got a “full on squeeze”, so I can live with it.

- Sophia standing there while getting both of her braless breasts fondled over her top by two guys, another guy squeezing her bare butt, and another guy squeezing her bare thighs near her crotch.

- Sophia forced to silently stand in front of nine young street punks with her breasts out, as they leer and make crude comments to each other about her breasts and what they’d like to do with them.

- I like that Sophia tried to get away with only showing the tops of her breasts above her areolas, and when Aiden scoffed at that she had to start all over and show everything. The student effectively telling the teacher “No, that’s not good enough, do it correctly this time.” I think that made it even more humiliating for the teacher. As Aiden said, “I make the rules here.”

- When Sophia lifts her skirt up here, she is holding it higher than when she had her business skirt up earlier in the day in front of the class. The sides of the panties are visible, the waistband scoops down in front in a sexy way, and it is pulled tighter on her crotch so just a tiny bit of her mound is peeking out on her right side. Her hips are also thrust out just a little, her legs are spread a bit wider, her shoulders are back which thrusts her chest out, and her tan lines are exposed. It’s a sexier pose. And everybody there knows it’s no accident.

Spoiler: Classroom skirt lift vs. Meeting skirt lift

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Ok, I played the scene again. I know that the blackmail route is particularly close to your heart. I have nothing wrong with that. But I don't see once in the whole scene with Aiden that Sophia feels anything at all except disgust, fear and shame. None of her poses and facial expressions, let alone what Sophia says, indicate sexual arousal or "sexy posing" in any form. Especially in the last paragraph of her post, you are interpreting something into the picture that simply does not exist!
If you have doubts about my contribution, discuss such a situation once with women (girlfriends, work colleagues). Show the pictures if you are brave enough (I would not be!). Somehow I think that in this case they would get the "blue balls" about which many complain here again and again.

 

[derek1957]

Ok, I played the scene again. I know that the blackmail route is particularly close to your heart. I have nothing wrong with that. But I don't see once in the whole scene with Aiden that Sophia feels anything at all except disgust, fear and shame. None of her poses and facial expressions, let alone what Sophia says, indicate sexual arousal or "sexy posing" in any form. Especially in the last paragraph of her post, you are interpreting something into the picture that simply does not exist!
If you have doubts about my contribution, discuss such a situation once with women (girlfriends, work colleagues). Show the pictures if you are brave enough (I would not be!). Somehow I think that in this case they would get the "blue balls" about which many complain here again and again.

No, you are misreading my post. I said that "Little doubt about it, Sophia took NO pleasure from any of what she was forced to do in this release."

As for the side-by-side picture, I said that "it's a sexier pose." That in no way implies that she was deliberately trying to pose sexy; just that IMO she looked sexier to me than the other picture. It was a compliment on the rendering.

 

[Sadowdark]

I'm sorry derek 1957 borrowed the picture

At the meeting of Sophia with Aiden Repetition of the fourth day in the classroom enriched with a new element

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I'm sorry derek 1957 borrowed the picture

At the meeting of Sophia with Aiden Repetition of the fourth day in the classroom enriched with a new element

very dirty sophia, ...... she did not change her underwear

 

[hzjujk]

No, you are misreading my post. I said that "Little doubt about it, Sophia took NO pleasure from any of what she was forced to do in this release."

As for the side-by-side picture, I said that "it's a sexier pose." That in no way implies that she was deliberately trying to pose sexy; just that IMO she looked sexier to me than the other picture. It was a compliment on the rendering.

"...her legs are spread a bit wider, her shoulders are back which thrusts her chest out, and her tan lines are exposed. It’s a sexier pose. And everybody there knows it’s no accident."

Did I really misunderstand? To me, this wording looks like you are implying exactly what I objected to. But maybe I'm just translating it wrong. Anyway, I said what was important to me and that's it.

 

[heatherwendy]

This button does nothing for now.

Thank you for the info~ and responding~

 

[Cold brew]

I've been out of the loop for a while too, but damn, no ass-busting threesome with Sophia and Ellie?

Well, there are always the fan arts.

But... How I currently see it, the only action seems to be with rubber ducky at the moment. I will let others comment on Ducky's unsubstantiated rumored ass-busting fetish. I personally do not want to go there or even bring it up. So, I won't.
But really, don't we all believe at this point, the little guy has been reserved for any future threesomes or more in the shower?
I mean the girls really seem to love the little guy for some mysterious reason. That little guy just grins at them and they just cannot help but to grin back. It is just like an unspoken thing between them all. Little mesmerizing moments like that seem to happen all the time when it comes to Ducky alone time. I just can't figure out what it is and what's exactly going on there.
Now here is a good question. Just think about what could happen if Ducky ever got excluded from any future threesomes or more in his shower. That could be a truly terrifying thing. I would think that Ducky's problems with anger management would likely spiral out of control and cause some unknown catastrophic event. But that is me.

 

[Sadowdark]

very dirty sophia, ...... she did not change her underwear

Sophia only changed her dress

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

very dirty sophia, ...... she did not change her underwear

She’s going to go home and give that pair to Dylan “the panty sniffer” & after one whiff he’s going to cum in his shorts

 

[haohong]

Here is my review and a few random comments on v0.161. Feel free to skip this if you haven’t seen the Aiden Meeting, don’t care for Aiden or non-consensual fantasies, or don’t care about my opinions.

I don’t have a lot of eloquent thoughts about the events, except that after watching it a number of times, I really like it, a lot. Perhaps one of my favorite events of any path. I was hoping for some subtle degradation or humiliation, but it went further than I expected. Nothing much subtle or sophisticated about Aiden here, he is just an arrogant immature punk who got his hot teacher alone surrounded by his gang and took advantage of the blackmail/extortion situation to sexually humiliate and degrade and bully her and have some fun with his boys at her expense. I had expected Aiden to be a bit more subtle; such as perhaps making Sophia lift her clothes on the pretense that she might be wired. Instead, he is just a crude punk kid, going all “Show us your tits!” and “Let my buddies play with you a while.” The little bit of flashing and groping may be mild in the big scheme of things that could have happened in that alley, but for me it was still a bit jarring to see her go through that. I didn’t expect the gang grope. Others did, they were right, and I was wrong.

I have to admit that I increased the erotica fifty present, by cheating. I play both the breast exposure AND the groping parts. I’m not a gamer, I created a video that plays the groping part right after the breast exposure as if they were part of the same scene. So between the three main actions – the skirt lift, the breasts flash, and the gang groping, that is quite a gauntlet of sexual harassment and humiliation for a woman to go through at one time.

The other thing I did is put the first few renders from the Morello route into the Aiden route, as it’s interesting, and clarifying, to hear Aiden tell his gang that his hot teacher is coming over because she likes bad boys and will soon be pleasuring all of them. The gang is dumb enough to believe it. This dialog likely encourages the gang, if they needed encouragement, to treat Aiden’s classy married teacher as a “bitch from the streets” as she once put it.

The first time or two I go through an event, I tend to be picky, and think about all the things I would do differently. Once I get past my own ego, opinions, and expectations, and just watch it for what it is, it’s much better. And instead of obsessing on what’s NOT there, I concentrate on the details that ARE there that make it erotic.

Going into the event, IF there was to be forced exposure and fondling, I wondered if Sophia would find any of it arousing like she does when she is forced to be exposed in front of her class or the art class, or if she would find no pleasure in it, as she is when she has been forced to expose herself for Aiden and Andre alone in the past. Little doubt about it, Sophia took NO pleasure from any of what she was forced to do in this release. It was all about her humiliation, degradation, and embarrassment. What does that mean for future tasks? Not so much “corruption” as “How far would you go if forced into unwanted sexual acts?”

Just perhaps, now that anti-Aiden players have a path that doesn’t include the Aiden route, the developer might now turn the path into less of a forced-pleasure/arousal feel and more just forced humiliation?

Interesting choice that Aiden had Sophia make – either “expose your breasts and nobody will touch you”; or a slightly lesser-defined “allow the gang play with you over your clothes”. I would think that a vast majority of women in this situation would choose the breasts exposure over being gang groped, but perhaps not. Anybody have an opinion?

A very quick note on The Dress. Not that it’s at all important to me. Now that we know what Aiden ordered Sophia to wear, which I think was very sexy and a good choice for the game, let’s not forget that this dress came out of Sophia’s own closet. Unless she bought it for Aiden’s benefit before Task 2, it’s her own dress. On her own she may not ever wear it with stocking tops showing, but may wear it with a strapless bra or braless. But it is sexy, small, and tight. Where would she normally wear it? To a biker bar?

Other than all of Sophia’s swearing at Aiden and the others, which is becoming the norm, and telling Aiden what she’s not going to do just before she does it, Sophia keeps as much composure as could be expected. Sometimes I would like to have seen a little less anger and more humiliation in Sophia’s eyes or in her body language. The dialog says that she’s “visibly uncomfortable”, but I don’t see much of that. But here she is often using the same humiliated facial expression that she had when she first had to lift her skirt and show her panties to Aiden and Andre in Task 2, which is the scene that got me hooked on this game. So I shouldn’t nitpick.

Speaking of Sophia's swearing and talking back to Aiden - I had been thinking that perhaps Aiden would get tired of it. Now I'm thinking that a brat like Aiden has taken pleasure his whole life by getting teachers to get mad, shout, and get red in the face and lose their cool by his doing. It's his life's work. So maybe he gets off when Sophia swears at him and calls him names. It shows that he is getting under Sophia's skin.

The animation of Sophia’s breasts falling out of her top was okay for what it was. Generic and faceless though. Putting them back wasn’t quite so interesting. But I’m guessing that these were made from some standard “breasts falling out” program and didn’t take much development time. I put the “walking” animation back into my video version.

I generally tend to play this less as a game than a series of linked erotic stories. That’s why I’m not as well-versed points or what stories and characters are on which path. I have my favorite paths, but I play them all, at least once. A while back, a well-known troll scoffed at the idea that L&P actually got aroused by his own renders and typed renders with one hand and fapped with the other. While I didn’t need that image put in my head, I do believe that most of these events are fantasies long stored in L&P’s personal spank bank that he organized together to make his “How Far Would You Go?” story. Why put all this work into graphics if you don’t enjoy them yourself? This explains to me why the events don’t create a seamless narrative, why bonus events pop up, and why there are secondary MCs; because the developer is more interested in what is erotic to him, and probably to us, than perfecting every little detail and piece of gaming logic. My opinion.



A list of some of my favorite parts:

- Andre getting his revenge, feeling Sophia’s bare ass as he talks trash to her. (In the breast-exposure scene, this was also Andre’s first time seeing his teacher’s completely bare breasts. It’s not acknowledged in the scene, and I’d like to have seen a bigger deal made of it.) A nitpick is that Andre isn’t shown with his hand squarely groping her butt, like it was in the classroom or like what the black guy did in this scene. Andre’s hand is sort of off to the side. But the narration said he got a “full on squeeze”, so I can live with it.

- Sophia standing there while getting both of her braless breasts fondled over her top by two guys, another guy squeezing her bare butt, and another guy squeezing her bare thighs near her crotch.

- 索菲亚被迫默默地站在九个年轻的街头小混混面前，她们的乳房都露出来，因为他们互相斜视并就她的乳房以及他们想用它们做什么的粗暴评论。

- 我喜欢索菲亚试图逃避只在她的乳晕上方展示她的乳房顶部，当艾登对此嗤之以鼻时，她不得不从头开始，展示一切。学生有效地告诉老师“不，这还不够好，这次做对了。” 我觉得这让老师更丢脸了。正如艾登所说，“我在这里制定规则。”

- 当 Sophia 把裙子掀到这里时，她比当天早些时候在全班同学面前掀起商务裙子时更高。内裤的两侧是可见的，腰带以性感的方式从前面舀到前面，在她的胯部拉得更紧，所以只有一点点的土墩从她的右侧向外窥视。她的臀部也稍微突出了一点，她的双腿张开了一点，她的肩膀向后突出了她的胸部，她的棕褐色线条被暴露了出来。这是一个更性感的姿势。那里的每个人都知道这不是偶然的。

Spoiler: 教室升降裙与会议升降裙

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[XoXmmahmm]

She’s going to go home and give that pair to Dylan “the panty sniffer” & after one whiff he’s going to cum in his shorts

You really damm DIRTY Animal
Now i understand how you get that name

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Been thinking.. Probably will never happen, but perhaps not a bad idea for F95 to create their own patronage platform for erotic art creators? They seem to have the size and brain for that. It would be without dumb content regulations like on Patreon but rather with special incentives for the active and honest creator, and demerit points/fines for unjustifiably delayed ones. Maybe even bonuses based on the game ratings?

Why would anyone switch from their Patreon milking scheme you'd ask? Much lower charges and fees could be a good reason.

 

[shuiko]

does FMC have sex yet with other people?