VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[blackfoxeyesred]

I don't understand why everyone is crazy about Dylan and his routes, I don't know. He looks like a asshole to look at. A good gentleman in the story is just Sam. He loves and cares for Sophia so much. Also Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. We are lucky Sophia does not love Dylan and L&P does not give Dylan a love route. Sophia and Ellie are just limited to sam, they don't want sam to share little idiot Dylan has them, And like Dylan and others, Sam never cheats on Sophia to earn her love.

Dylan is completely stupid and asshole like his father (Liam) because they are the ones who get Sophia into great danger.

Funny take there dude

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Sophia and Ellie just being limited to Sam is a ridiculous statement. The other Ellie branches are likely to be Logan and Jules. And Ellie has a better relationship with Jules than she does with Sam anyway.

I don't aprove a relationship between Sam/Ellie but I know he will get there, to me she needs better than Sam like a strong good looking men not a little boy.

 

[qzbuyfhsef]

I don't aprove a relationship between Sam/Ellie but I know he will get there, to me she needs better than Sam like a strong good looking men not a little boy.

Janitor ?! AHAHAHAHA

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

the reason is very simple. Sam is the boy next door. A relationship between a married woman and the boy next door is a little out of the ordinary for a "decent" woman but still plausible. In the end Sam is just anyone, nowadays he doesn't scandalize anyone. Dylan is Sophia's son, and a relationship between the two of them is incest to the fullest. Maximum transgression of all the rules and taboos of humanity. In a fantasy game or tale, transgression like this will always have more appeal than flirting with any guy. People who download this type of escape games, especially those who pay for it legally, want to unleash their imagination at the highest level because the human mind needs to escape and transgress. A sentimental romance between a woman and the neighbor does not transgress anything and does not make your mind escape from anything.

yeah, there is no challenge in a relationship between Sam and Sophia and must people like to see a more forbiden story thing.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Janitor ?! AHAHAHAHA

Logan must Likely, I think this fucking Janitor could break my lil' girl with his massive cock too much for her to start with

 

[gnole13]

Is it me or like dev has a couple of accounts and use them to praise or defend his game after every update?
Probably it is me.
People can fanatically love this game, right?

 

[Alley_Cat]

say whatttttttt???? so you just want the end of the game, removing character, cuting scenes and task, it don't goin to make the game any good, don't care if it takes forever since I am having fun it is OK.

Why remove Ellie route? you must be kidding she is my muse, I don't understand why you guys whant to remove characters just to see a end game, and what is the sence in remove a character from Sophia's family for me that don't make any sence at all , imagine a hot family character with no filthy path how lame it would be, if you guys want a short game out there you guys can find plenty of bad games, how about it.

In terms of removing characters, all I'm advocating is postponing scenes that add nothing to the main routes until after L&P has a complete game under his belt. For example, nothing in say the scene with Aiden/Andre/Jennifer advances Dylan's storyline. From my understanding, even arouses Sophia in any way. Or v.161. Could have been resolved with a phone call, and we might have even had an idea of what the 5th task might be.

Nothing in the next two updates advances Sophia's attraction to anyone either. And she's the MC, so I argue these updates can be safely removed or postponed. Like the Coach Sophia storyline.

As for removal of the Ellie route, I believe that's just trolling, and a deliberate misconstruing of what I'm suggesting, because I'm a vocal fan of Ellie. When questions of my favourite scene come up, inevitably it's the most recent Ellie shower. Only exception so far has been the Sophia/Ellie/Jules event in the backyard. Scenes like that, even though it's not Sophia/LI, keep those, since it is needed by Ellie for her to get off in the next shower event. Which I believe will be used by her to convince Sophia she can jill off in front of Ellie without feeling ashamed or embarrassed.

Even stuff like the last Alyssa event, I think should be kept, even though I personally pick the Ellie/Jules event every time. But the Alyssa scene is Sophia's first chance to try dick that isn't Liam's. The next Alyssa event on PD17 will probably be Sophia's first and only chance to get off by a dick that isn't Liam's.

And I'd really like to know Sophia might get off before the game possibly gets canceled. If we eventually get to the sex scenes, or by some miracle L&P speeds up to a PD every 6 months, then I might let up about insisting characters get removed.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Is it me or like dev has a couple of accounts and use them to praise or defend his game after every update?
Probably it is me.
People can fanatically love this game, right?

name a better game and why this game can't be loved for us who like.

 

[krak0n]

I dont care about any path anymore .just give me a good scene with sophia ivan and two other mover bois,I am a happy man

 

[Sabertooth__]

Why remove Ellie route? you must be kidding she is my muse, I don't understand why you guys whant to remove characters just to see a end game, and what is the sence in remove a character from Sophia's family for me that don't make any sence at all , imagine a hot family character with no filthy path how lame it would be, if you guys want a short game out there you guys can find plenty of bad games, how about it.

Don't misunderstand me, i like the Ellie Sophia relationship a lot too. That was just a hypothetical situation i mentioned. Cutting down the game is not a good solution. The only reasonable solution is that he finds someone who can make CS with him and just as good.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

In terms of removing characters, all I'm advocating is postponing scenes that add nothing to the main routes until after L&P has a complete game under his belt. For example, nothing in say the scene with Aiden/Andre/Jennifer advances Dylan's storyline. From my understanding, even arouses Sophia in any way. Or v.161. Could have been resolved with a phone call, and we might have even had an idea of what the 5th task might be.

Nothing in the next two updates advances Sophia's attraction to anyone either. And she's the MC, so I argue these updates can be safely removed or postponed. Like the Coach Sophia storyline.

As for removal of the Ellie route, I believe that's just trolling, and a deliberate misconstruing of what I'm suggesting, because I'm a vocal fan of Ellie. When questions of my favourite scene come up, inevitably it's the most recent Ellie shower. Only exception so far has been the Sophia/Ellie/Jules event in the backyard. Scenes like that, even though it's not Sophia/LI, keep those, since it is needed by Ellie for her to get off in the next shower event. Which I believe will be used by her to convince Sophia she can jill off in front of Ellie without feeling ashamed or embarrassed.

Even stuff like the last Alyssa event, I think should be kept, even though I personally pick the Ellie/Jules event every time. But the Alyssa scene is Sophia's first chance to try dick that isn't Liam's. The next Alyssa event on PD17 will probably be Sophia's first and only chance to get off by a dick that isn't Liam's.

And I'd really like to know Sophia might get off before the game possibly gets canceled. If we eventually get to the sex scenes, or by some miracle L&P speeds up to a PD every 6 months, then I might let up about insisting characters get removed.

I think I understand what you mean, but we can't change what already happened and I know there is some paths which don't please every player in the game, it's impossible to do soch a thing, I know everybody is crazy to see Dylan doing Sophia even me but we need to understand that incest is not the only story to be told in the game.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Don't misunderstand me, i like the Ellie Sophia relationship a lot too. That was just a hypothetical situation i mentioned. Cutting down the game is not a good solution. The only reasonable solution is that he finds someone who can make CS with him and just as good.

It is fine, but find someone good and afordable seems hard to do these days.

 

[ticaaa]

so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?

 

[RockSpice]

Is it me or like dev has a couple of accounts and use them to praise or defend his game after every update?
Probably it is me.
People can fanatically love this game, right?

Or people can express fanatical hatred, right?

 

[gnole13]

so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?

Depends on your path, yes, can be short.
I am assuming you avoid Aiden's task.

 

[ticaaa]

Depends on your path, yes, can be short.
I am assuming you avoid Aiden's task.

yes , didnt do the tasks , that lil bitch can go fuck himself )

 

[gnole13]

Or people can express fanatical hatred, right?

yeah, same. It is a" game". really, it is a game.
You (as an expression, anyone) love it or hate it.
If you love it continue to play, support, and sometimes express what you think.
If you hate it, don't play, continue with your life, no need to spend time on something you hate, right?

However, not just about this game, about everything, expressing feelings about something, is okay, sharing good and bad sides, is okay, and discussing, and arguing, is okay.
But escalating the arguments to a point showing fanatical emotions and starting to fight with people...
Hmm, idk, not okay?

Is it me or like dev has a couple of accounts and use them to praise or defend his game after every update?
Probably it is me.
People can fanatically love this game, right?

Btw, I made an observation, it is something that I have observed during these years. You can say no it is not true, or you can yes it might be.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Having in mind that the next update will be about our little boy Dylan I did this image to show you guys how our little boy had your artwork improved, from the very beginning till the last update, very proud of his evolution lol

 

[lockerxx]

so i finished part 1 and started to play part 2 at day 20 and its just a couple of slideshows of sophie's activities and it end saying to be continue , is part 2 that short ?

if you are not in the Aiden path yes is that short.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

I get your point Alley_Cat , and I think it's sensible, but also largely impractical. Cutting or restructuring story elements should have happened in pre-production editing. While changes are possible during the game's development, I think the wholesale restructuring that you're talking about would be a nightmare. I think L&P has crafted a game that is so interconnected in ways big and small, that deciding midstream to move content to DLC would be too difficult. Some, like the side jobs, could be more easily removed than others, but I have a feeling that all of these storylines will be interconnected in some way. It could manifest in dialog and references, or it could manifest in entire plot points. But either way, it would require extensive work to the script to make sure that continuity is maintained, while also planning for the future insertion of the removed material.

The original sin has always been L&P's project management skills and his lack of help. He badly needed a trusted confidant early in development that could help him manage the story and point out potential issues. Now that we're about a 1/3 of the way through the game I just don't think he could easily remove much content without taking extensive time to modify the script accordingly.