VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.205b] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

I think this is totally possible, look this... After Ellie acidentally peek some Sam/Sophia scene in the house, Ellie talk with Sophia about it later(maybe shower or bedroom)... and depending on the relationship between the two girls, Sophia said to ellie some racy(spicy) things that made Ellie curious and excited about Sam. In the other hand, we have the growing relationship between Dylan/Ellie with Sam being introduced into context. That would create the possibility of having Dylan/Ellie/Sam threesome in the future as well.


Ellie is a character with great potential to take relationships to another level. However the whole path needs to be well written by Dev, but I don't worry about that because he does it well.

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On the Dylan/Ellie/Sam front, you're assuming the point of the bonus storyline is going to eventually be Dylan/Ellie, which is completely unconfirmed. I haven't seen any evidence so far that Ellie can make the complete turnaround necessary by the time the storyline finishes, sometime before PD16. Which happens to be before the Ellie/Sam branch starts.

I still believe L&P is leading fans of a Dylan/Ellie romance on, much like he has with many of the characters that were originally part of the lesbian route, like Emma, Alyssa, and Vicki. Considering how much Christine features in the storyline, I believe Dylan/Christine is going to be the end result.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

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[Bill_Buttlicker]

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[Bishop Robert]

No please don't give us a Sam and Ellie branch, we have enough branches as of now.

 

[blackfoxeyesred]

Do you guys realy think that a incest scene with Dylan is an possibility here? I have my thoughts, I don't think Dylan will have sex with Sophia or Ellie, however I do belive we can have a voyeur scene with Dylan where he spy on them having sex with other men what is must likely to hapen, I realy nice thing that is realy possible here is a threesome with the girls with another men.

 

[Apexpredator47]

Dear friend for sure it was the best scene so far, don't know about her future in the game But what I do know is that everybody what to see more things like that

Best scene so far??

 

[Alley_Cat]

Do you guys realy think that a incest scene with Dylan is an possibility here? I have my thoughts, I don't think Dylan will have sex with Sophia or Ellie, however I do belive we can have a voyeur scene with Dylan where he spy on them having sex with other men what is must likely to hapen, I realy nice thing that is realy possible here is a threesome with the girls with another men.

It would be incredibly trolling of L&P for there not to be at least one planned sex scene between Sophia and Dylan. I think it's accepted by all that aren't rapid Dylan fans that he'll be the last to have sex with Sophia - as the "climax" of the game. When I last checked my estimates, Dylan could have as many as a hundred events by the end of the game. So at least one of them being a sex scene with Sophia is I think a pretty safe assumption.

There are many characters where I put Dylan's chances as better. Like Logan and Aiden. Or Ava's boys and the old gents. Not counting characters like Tyler, Jason, Haru, Bennett, who are confirmed to pretty much have no chance at all, at least in the near future.

Whether or not we'll reach that point is a different matter entirely, since it's likely at the current pace to take decades. And some don't see this being continued for more than around the next five years.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Do you guys realy think that a incest scene with Dylan is an possibility here? I have my thoughts, I don't think Dylan will have sex with Sophia or Ellie, however I do belive we can have a voyeur scene with Dylan where he spy on them having sex with other men what is must likely to hapen, I realy nice thing that is realy possible here is a threesome with the girls with another men.

Dylan Sophia is the ultimate prize of the game. It will happen. If his most popular character does not score with Sophia then his fans will be outraged. I wasn't there back then but the Dylan fans seem pretty influential. They got L&P to remove the twist even though L&P generally does not spare a second glance at the end idea of having to change his story because someone is asking him to.

Dylan Ellie is also supposed to happen. Maybe there won't be sex. But he has clearly said that it is a Dylan Ellie storyline and Christine is only an occasional part of it.

 

[Deleted member 4535267]

Do you guys realy think that a incest scene with Dylan is an possibility here? I have my thoughts, I don't think Dylan will have sex with Sophia or Ellie

Don't know about Ellie but Dylan will definetely have sex with Sophia. It is not going to be just a voyeristic scene. How do I know that? Because I asked L&P a year ago and he confirmed it. I don't remember his exact words but I'm gonna assume Dylan/Ellie sex scene will also happen.
But its going to be a very long wait and thats an understatement.

 

[Alley_Cat]

No please don't give us a Sam and Ellie branch, we have enough branches as of now.

We have too many branches as of now. As I've been continuously ranting, everything that isn't directly connected to Sophia and one of the LIs should be removed (or at least postponed to DLC) if it means getting the game finished within a reasonable timeframe.

I'd even advocate removal of Aiden's tasks and any chance of Ellie nude sunbathing in the backyard if it meant we could get the game finished.

 

[SuperPerv96]

Dear friend for sure it was the best scene so far, don't know about her future in the game But what I do know is that everybody what to see more things like that

I think its quite the opposite, most people here probably agree with me whe i say that they dont care about that scene, the animations were good, but theres better animations, i i dont care for Jennifer, for me it was a waist of time

 

[Michael Rawson]

It would be great to have a path with Sam/Ellie - Sam/Ellie/Sophia with (Dylan cuck).
Like Ellie discovering the secret relationship between Sam and Sophia.
Ellie getting curious about Sam or whatever...

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I think this is totally possible, look this... After Ellie acidentally peek some Sam/Sophia scene in the house, Ellie talk with Sophia about it later(maybe shower or bedroom)... and depending on the relationship between the two girls, Sophia said to ellie some racy(spicy) things that made Ellie curious and excited about Sam. In the other hand, we have the growing relationship between Dylan/Ellie with Sam being introduced into context. That would create the possibility of having Dylan/Ellie/Sam threesome in the future as well.


Ellie is a character with great potential to take relationships to another level. However the whole path needs to be well written by Dev, but I don't worry about that because he does it well.

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Dude, Dylan is the most popular character in the story. Without giving Dylan the L&P threesome combination (Sophia, Dylan and Ellie) in the story, If he had given Sam that (threesome) path of composition. Dylan and incest fans will surely be outraged by this. And Then Dylan fans may lose interest in the story, And then Dylan fans can stop supporting him. And also L&P may lose a lot of Dylan's fans, With all these problems L&P can't afford to give Sam a threesome path. Most importantly, L&P don't want to lose Dylan's fans.

If there is no threesome (Sophia, Dylan, Ellie) route to Dylan in the story then surely there is no threesome route to sam.

 

[DIRTY MIND]

Dude, Dylan is the most popular character in the story. Without giving Dylan the L&P threesome combination (Sophia, Dylan and Ellie) in the story, If he had given Sam that (threesome) path of composition. Dylan and incest fans will surely be outraged by this. And Then Dylan fans may lose interest in the story, And then Dylan fans can stop supporting him. And also L&P may lose a lot of Dylan's fans, With all these problems L&P can't afford to give Sam a threesome path.

If there is no threesome (Sophia, Dylan, Ellie) route to Dylan in the story then surely there is no threesome route to sam.

Yes, I agree with you, I would love to see Sophia, Dylan and Ellie Threesome combination sex in the story, not Sam's combination sex.

 

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[Alley_Cat]

Dude, Dylan is the most popular character in the story. Without giving Dylan the L&P threesome combination (Sophia, Dylan and Ellie) in the story, If he had given Sam that (threesome) path of composition. Dylan and incest fans will surely be outraged by this. And Then Dylan fans may lose interest in the story, And then Dylan fans can stop supporting him. And also L&P may lose a lot of Dylan's fans, With all these problems L&P can't afford to give Sam a threesome path.

If there is no threesome (Sophia, Dylan, Ellie) route to Dylan in the story then surely there is no threesome route to sam.

Yes, I agree with you, I would love to see Sophia, Dylan and Ellie Threesome combination sex in the story, not Sam's combination sex.

The bonus storyline will be mutually exclusive with Sophia/Dylan by the end of the evening of this playable day, and well and truly over by the time Sophia and Dylan have sex, let alone Sophia and Dylan being in a threesome with anyone.

And sex between Sophia and Dylan is likely decades away, so practically not going to happen, even if it is planned in the story

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.

 

[Sabertooth__]

As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.

True, it is what it is, we have to accept whatever we get until the day L&P finally stops. L&P's mind is on the right track with creating a realistic novel, with a rich and interactive world. But this task is just not for one man, atleast not for a man who is also heavily obsessed with his art and finer details.

 

[Alley_Cat]

As I've said before, the problem with cutting the story down to the bone is that the game would suffer for it. What makes AWAM special is the complicated & interconnected routes. That complexity will eventually kill the game. But if we strip it away and focus on just the primary LIs (Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patricia) then I think the game would quickly become stale. But cutting the game to the bone is the only way the game will ever be completed. It's a conundrum.

Honestly, I don't think it can be fixed. We've got what we've got at this point.

Except that things like the side job aren't actually connected to anything. Makes absolutely no difference to anything if Sophia teaches Ava's boys Sex Ed or not, or if she wears the nurse's uniform for the old guys or not. You can as far as I'm aware remove much of the Filthy route characters like the subway thugs, Janitor Clarke etc and still have the Filthy points to do all the scenes on each route.

It barely makes a difference for the Ellie route if Dylan is at boarding school or not, apart from what in all likelihood will end up being a throwaway comment from Ellie about wanted to start nude sunbathing.

Even the Bikini Show that is being mentioned lately isn't really connected. I haven't heard it mattering in the slightest to the Sam route if he is there or not.

 

[Chaosguy]

True, it is what it is, we have to accept whatever we get until the day L&P finally stops. L&P's mind is on the right track with creating a realistic novel, with a rich and interactive world. But this task is just not for one man, atleast not for a man who is also heavily obsessed with his art and finer details.

Agree he will abandon it some day, it's been what 5 years and this is how far he has taken it.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Except that things like the side job aren't actually connected to anything. Makes absolutely no difference to anything if Sophia teaches Ava's boys Sex Ed or not, or if she wears the nurse's uniform for the old guys or not. You can as far as I'm aware remove much of the Filthy route characters like the subway thugs, Janitor Clarke etc and still have the Filthy points to do all the scenes on each route.

It barely makes a difference for the Ellie route if Dylan is at boarding school or not, apart from what in all likelihood will end up being a throwaway comment from Ellie about wanted to start nude sunbathing.

Even the Bikini Show that is being mentioned lately isn't really connected. I haven't heard it mattering in the slightest to the Sam route if he is there or not.

Well the way you say makes light of every storyline or scene in the game. Let's say he removes the Ellie route entirely. This route has long scenes, multiple branches and is full of events, also having to depend on other routes entirely for progress. Eliminating this storyline should be enough to accommodate atleast 3-4 others in the game.
If we want incest with a female, Patricia is already there. Incest with her child, Dylan is there. So it makes absolutely no difference if Sophia fucks her daughter or not. We can get enough lesbian points from Elsewhere and also enough filthy points. See even the Ellie route can be called unnecessary.

Multiple characters and storylines help create a world, something actually intresting and not monotonous like most games where the same 4 characters keep coming back every 2-3 events. No functional woman with an job and actual life has interactions with only 3-4 people that too only in her family. Sophia feels like an actual person because she has numerous people in it. Majority storylines Don't even have that Many events. Like the old gents. They have only 4 events left in the game after tomorrow. Two next week and then two week after that. Their events are not huge either. At the same time it caters to fetishes of different people. Some want to see Sophia with young boys, some with old, some with men her age. Some with women, some with family members.

Ruining the whole game by cutting it down just to complete it in reasonable time is the worst solution.