crabboid

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I was surprised when I translated this. In the US, marriage between first-degree relatives is prohibited in only 25 states?

Is America in the Middle Ages?

How is this possible?

Even in primitive tribal societies, inbreeding was avoided.
I have never heard of that in my life. I can say that I've lived in multiple states across the US in my life, and I've never once encountered a single human being who was blood relation to their spouse. To quote Norm Macdonald:

"That sounds like some commie gobbledygook to me."
 

ashitanojoe

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its weird that patreon loses a client that techincally follows the rules and earns them a good amount, I don't know how much he made monthly
it was Strange because the DOL version was the "safe version" and AWAM was outside of Patreon.they hate money.
You can't expect that Patreon send a message "Hey there is a link between AWAM and your Patreon page, we're busted! We made a lot of money but we can't close our eyes any longer, we're going to have trouble. Sorry dude, nothing personal, see you. Kindly."
Studio FOW was banned from Patreon after they made a bestiality scene. Studio FOW was one of the biggest patreons not only in adult games but overall, I think they had 17000 patrons at the very least. And still Patreon didn't care about losing that source of money. To put you into context, Studio FOW launched a Kickstarter campaing after that and they collected more than 2 million dollars for their new game, Subverse. They have earned more than 12 million dollars in Steam with that game. We are talking about Patreon banning a source of millions of dollars, a dev like L&P means nothing compared to that. Patreon has made an statement, they will ban any dev that violates their norms, no matter how much money he brings.
 

Alley_Cat

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Studio FOW was banned from Patreon after they made a bestiality scene. Studio FOW was one of the biggest patreons not only in adult games but overall, I think they had 17000 patrons at the very least. And still Patreon didn't care about losing that source of money. To put you into context, Studio FOW launched a Kickstarter campaing after that and they collected more than 2 million dollars for their new game, Subverse. They have earned more than 12 million dollars in Steam with that game. We are talking about Patreon banning a source of millions of dollars, a dev like L&P means nothing compared to that. Patreon has made an statement, they will ban any dev that violates their norms, no matter how much money he brings.
Or, to put another way, Patreon soothsayers are getting more money from others not liking things like this 2nd side job, than they are from the few hundred fans of it.
 

palmtrees89

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Everything is conjecture when it comes to Patreon. They obviously talk about AWAM in the message uploaded.

The question is why AWAM is now a problem when it wasn't in last years. The previous review from Patreon was specifically about the F95 link. The link was removed, the page got back to business. The link came back, the page was banned. Make the math.

You can't expect that Patreon send a message "Hey there is a link between AWAM and your Patreon page, we're busted! We made a lot of money but we can't close our eyes any longer, we're going to have trouble. Sorry dude, nothing personal, see you. Kindly."
Didn't Patreon update their ToS a while ago? I've seen a bunch of games getting in trouble with Patreon lately, so maybe it was just L&P's turn. Saying that because you question as to why AWAM was suddenly a problem.

Another thing I find confusing.. You say L&P can't expect a message from Patreon about the link, but then you also say the review before his ban was specifically about that link. So he must have gotten the message you say L&P can't expect from Patreon during their first rodeo, otherwise how would he know the link on F95 was the problem?

AWAM is being shared on a bunch of pirate websites, and there's links to his Patreon page on all of them. The game itself is linked to his Patreon page aswell.

Man, it's really annoying that I've missed out on all the "fun" when apparently DM's and whatnot had been posted here. Which is also weird that they've all been deleted for some reason. I've still not seen any DM or screenshot from L&P and Patreon that prove the first review was specifically about the link on F95. It's just what people have been saying, and I hate having to blindly believe what's said by random people. The only thing I've seen is an E-mail after his perma ban that clearly shows how Patreon doesn't like incest and shota and the screenshot from L&P's Discord provided by PietruccioTheHilander where L&P "assumes" the ban happened because of a link.
 

Alley_Cat

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Didn't Patreon update their ToS a while ago? I've seen a bunch of games getting in trouble with Patreon lately, so maybe it was just L&P's turn. Saying that because you question as to why AWAM was suddenly a problem.

Another thing I find confusing.. You say L&P can't expect a message from Patreon about the link, but then you also say the review before his ban was specifically about that link. So he must have gotten the message you say L&P can't expect from Patreon during their first rodeo, otherwise how would he know the link on F95 was the problem?

AWAM is being shared on a bunch of pirate websites, and there's links to his Patreon page on all of them. The game itself is linked to his Patreon page aswell.

Man, it's really annoying that I've missed out on all the "fun" when apparently DM's and whatnot had been posted here. Which is also weird that they've all been deleted for some reason. I've still not seen any DM or screenshot from L&P and Patreon that prove the first review was specifically about the link on F95. It's just what people have been saying, and I hate having to blindly believe what's said by random people. The only thing I've seen is an E-mail after his perma ban that clearly shows how Patreon doesn't like incest and shota and the screenshot from L&P's Discord provided by PietruccioTheHilander where L&P "assumes" the ban happened because of a link.
I'll also not tate that Jules has been quoted as a reason (out of the fucking blue), as a reason for the ban, since she's loli. But over 18.
 

brichouse

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I have never heard of that in my life. I can say that I've lived in multiple states across the US in my life, and I've never once encountered a single human being who was blood relation to their spouse. To quote Norm Macdonald:

"That sounds like some commie gobbledygook to me."
No. It definitely happens. It's not like immediate relatives (siblings) but things like "second cousins" or whatever.
 

kdoddie

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I was surprised when I translated this. In the US, marriage between first-degree relatives is prohibited in only 25 states?

Is America in the Middle Ages?

How is this possible?

Even in primitive tribal societies, inbreeding was avoided.
lol you should look at a map of cousin marriage laws across the world, the U.S. is one of the more restricted countries in the world

Europe apart from some countries in the balkans are all thumbs up
 

crabboid

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No. It definitely happens. It's not like immediate relatives (siblings) but things like "second cousins" or whatever.
You're talking a fraction of a fraction of a fraction. A number so small as to be irrelevant. It was initially put out there like it was some common occurrence.
 

Alley_Cat

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To let everybody know that I'm leaving AWAM fourm and I'm not coming back because there are too many hateful and mean people on here I'm not talking about the ones who I'm following and ones who been following me since the beginning but it's time for me to move on to my followers and as y'all's follower I'm sorry for leaving and this Saturday will be my last to come on here I hope y'all don't forget me about me
buh bye?
 

palmtrees89

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To let everybody know that I'm leaving AWAM fourm and I'm not coming back because there are too many hateful and mean people on here I'm not talking about the ones who I'm following and ones who been following me since the beginning but it's time for me to move on to my followers and as y'all's follower I'm sorry for leaving and this Saturday will be my last to come on here I hope y'all don't forget me about me
Aren't you the guy who said he'd not come back until there's a lesbian scene with Sophia, Patricia and some others like 6 weeks ago?

The same guy who said he'd leave for a while because of back problems and major surgery or something like 4 weeks ago?

Also the same guy who said he got "reported twice" and it being his "last day on here" like 3 weeks ago?

Oh, and also the same guy who tells people in other threads to find the developer and "raise hell on him"?

The same guy who calls people "motherfucker", "pussy" among other nice words?

Now you're suddenly the guy who says he'll leave because people are mean and haters?

What's it gonna be in 2 weeks? Getting married with Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson?
 
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tofhdns

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lol you should look at a map of cousin marriage laws across the world, the U.S. is one of the more restricted countries in the world

Europe apart from some countries in the balkans are all thumbs up
I already saw the number 0.2% in the above post.

I know there can never be 0% on anything.
Also, I don't think 0.2% is a problematic number, and since it is unclear whether marriages between relatives within the 0.2% number include from the first degree to how many degrees of degree, I try not to think too deeply about it.

However, what surprised me was that in some states, legal restrictions against marriage between first-degree relatives do not exist.

I consider this a “forgotten law” and intend to put a lid on it and forget about it.
 
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