VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[lynx33]

Problem is really, what the consumer/player want it to be, rather than what it actually is. He is making and delivering an adult game and people throw a fit because it doesn't fit their own narrative. I find it good as it is, I have no desire to get rushed to the money shoot, or impose my own fetish onto other players because I want to see it in the game. What others might see as meaningless, I see as a creator that put a lot of work and thought into his game. For those that want something else there is plenty of adult content on the internet to consume that would appeal to their fetish and desire more.

I don't see an issue with waiting for the money shot or fetishes. But that guitar scene had a start that didn't feel interesting as it just fed musicial theory. And it didn't seem to serve another purpose of showing that a) he's teaching her to play guitar and b) he's okay the guitar and knows some theory (none of what he does on the guitar is that impressive). I feel like it could have been written in a way that showed this while showing their shared love of music more and more of their personalities. Cause there is no personality in "this is the nut, this is the bridge... this is a G... you hold it like this"

 

[TheVengefulOne]

@Viatovic , again, for most of the people who expressed concerns about that scene, it's not about the lack of sex, damn it. The scene was too long, not just for a porn game, for ANYTHING short of an actual actual music lesson. You don't do this when telling a story. When you see a character in a TV show, or movie, or a book, learning to fight with a sword, you don't see the WHOLE process. You don't watch/read every hand grip, every slash, every parry. This is a waste of time, for the author, for the viewer, for everyone.

Thank you. For me I didn't understand much of the guitar lesson because I don't know how to play any instrument or know the G or D whatever they were called and it took away from the game for me. I found myself skipping through most of that scene.

 

[Hanzoh]

Also on Patreon there is a pic of Sophia playing double bass with Sam... Is it on the version 0.02 ? How do you get this scene?

what double bass ?

 

[Power Broker]

Hey L&P, good game so far. Let me give you some feedback.

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You have a 0.2 version and already a thread with 100+ pages of players discussing your game. That's no small feat and something that you can be proud of. Let me say something about the majority of that feedback as well.

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And one or two words about Patreon and how to deal with their policies.

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[Olivia_V]

i've expected to play as an active, adult and sexy woman, that have a lot of choises and possibilities to explore her sexuality.

Sophia is a bit too passive, but the potential for a more active character is there. After all, the last scene is that of her telling her husband what she wants. There may be more of that in the future.

 

[lockerxx]

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if you are so scary about patreon PC why not change to stepmom and patricia to cousin or childhood friend there all legal now.
i love the soccer mom scene.

 

[Sffdcwg]

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if you are so scary about patreon PC why not change to stepmom and patricia to cousin or childhood friend there all legal now.
i love the soccer mom scene.

A stepmom. Really? More of that unoriginal sheit

 

[Hyped]

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if you are so scary about patreon PC why not change to stepmom and patricia to cousin or childhood friend there all legal now.
i love the soccer mom scene.

Patreon have stated step-cest isn't allowed either. Sex with legal guardians of any kind isn't allowed, including adoption situations. They are also going after games that feature sexualized situations with characters that look too young.

 

[lockerxx]

:OhMyGoodness:they really go full PC.

 

[Argox]

The dev should learn how to write a script. The plot is good, and certain level of detail and slow boiling is great in a game like this, but too much quantity can kill quality. There are a lot of scenes and lines in the text that should be removed because don't contribute to the narration and bore the player. For example, the intro is terrible long and boring, and the scene where the family visits every single room in the new house... Do the dev really think that the player needs to see all the rooms of the house and to know what every single character thinks about? I´m sorry, but the opinions of every member of the family about the bathroom or the garden are not so interesting. Dev, please, when you write the scenes, go to the point!

 

[coolboy88]

Nice to see occasionally also some more reasonable and fair comments to the game. Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Actually, I'm aware of almost all your points.
1) I'm using interjections only in dialogues, naturally. It's shorter, quicker graspable and IMO more authentic in a dialogue for a game of this kind.
2) Humph, I think this scene is natural enough, especially for such kind of game/story. And you have always a choice! Sophia wanted to talk with her son about the incident from last night. After that she wanted to distract him a bit and offered to push him on the swing. They chatted a bit and then Dylan offered to push her too. Sophia can say yes. Then Dylan asks her to push her stronger. Well ok, why not. Sophia swinged higher and higher and that's why Dylan pushed her deeper and deeper till he pushed her by her butt. Sophia could stop him or continue a while. Then she stops anyway after Dylan's pinch. Then she can decide to react understandingly or badmouth him.
Actually, how much more natural can a "son grabs mom's butt" scene be?
"Oh hey, Mom, you got something on your butt. Let me wipe it away for you! ... Oh, it doesn't go away. I have to rub stronger!"??? I mean every scene where a son would grab his mom's butt is not natural by itself. And every movie and book has coincidences. It would be very boring if we would see a movie or read a book where only "casual" things would happen.
3) There will be more characters in this game with different personalities. It has its meaning why Dylan, Sam and Zac got this kind of personality.
4) It was also my initial plan, to have a more natural flow of a day including some little facets of it which doesn't contribute much to the story. Especially later they will give you some natural rest of the "erotic scenes".
5) I already got some native speaker who is correcting the language. I think the next Version 0.025 will have all the text of 0.02 corrected.
6) Well, the choices... Actually, the vast majority laments that this game has too much "unnecessary stuff". And then including choices which have no effect on the story? And including more choices which have an effect on the story is also not so easy. The game is planned for 30 playable days and I already got some different routes and many characters. And I'm developing this game all alone. Including more choices with even slight effects would not only increase the amount of renders but also could easily lead to many bugs and inconsistencies.
7) And now to the most important point: Patreon.
To find a new platform as popular as Patreon and which also allows such fetishes is not that easy. I think there is not even one! And censorship is also what I though about. To release 2 versions of the game. One for Patreon where I will put all the "Patreon-forbidden" scenes out of the game and just write: "next scene is not available" for example. And another uncensored version which I will post on a little website for example. The only problem, I still don't know how to inform my patrons of the uncensored version without Patreon get wind of it. Unfortunately all the solutions I heard by now were not very satisfying.

Personally, this is one of my favorite adult game of all time. I mean it. This is more like a movie and the way you're taking the story is so interesting. Please don't change anything, I love the slow pace. Don't worry about everyone's opinion because when you build a product, you will receive negative and positive reviews. I give this game five star and once again please don't change anything. I will also donate your patreon after my next salary. Good luck!

 

[titokm10]

If they banned step-cest the game is not for patreon then and it should have its own website like summertime saga and try to raise the same amount of supporters and donations in a private way. But if they allowed step-cest then an incest mod would have been the best option.

 

[Joshua Tree]

7) And now to the most important point: Patreon.
To find a new platform as popular as Patreon and which also allows such fetishes is not that easy. I think there is not even one! And censorship is also what I though about. To release 2 versions of the game. One for Patreon where I will put all the "Patreon-forbidden" scenes out of the game and just write: "next scene is not available" for example. And another uncensored version which I will post on a little website for example. The only problem, I still don't know how to inform my patrons of the uncensored version without Patreon get wind of it. Unfortunately all the solutions I heard by now were not very satisfying.

Ever thought about use like

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or just PayPal and run with your own website etc? If its exposure for your game and attract support for it, there is A LOT of adult sites on the internet you can post on to draw interest. Even Patreon is big I don't think its the primary choice for people when looking for adult content, games or other.

Avenger been using Paypal and other means long before set up a Patreon for his SOB and Big Kuyahs. And those games been going at it for a very long time now.

And please, keep make the game as you set out to do. There is a lot of us that appreciate it for what it is, it stand out from other games that just do the "fastest path to get off" which just terrible. You can't please everyone all the time, and if start try to I'm afraid you will water down the experience your game is.

 

[Bonobosaurus]

I'm very glad you like the game!
1) The "problem" with the size of some rooms is mainly because I've started to develop the game on rpg maker first. That's why I had to find suitable rooms for the rpg maker maps so that both 3D world and rpg maker world look similar. The same with the corridor. Actually, I was looking for a bigger living room but none was suitable to the architecture of any rpg maker map. And I also needed urgently a living room which has a connection to the kitchen. But the corridors and stairs are suitable to such a big mansion. I also think that the bedrooms are ok.
2) To reach that scene with Sam you need the highest relationship with him before the music lesson. And during the lesson you just have to click on every decision where you get more points with him.

Hi. Glad to be able to tell you you made a wonderful job up to now. I enjoy nearly everything in your game : the time you take to introduce your characters, the obvious amount of work and research you made, the fact that people in your game aren't basic douch pervs (I mean, there are two guys using museum access to tease girls !), the passions you share (about arts, seeing characters talk about the painters of singer they enjoy is precious).

I like your pace and dedication and just want to advise you not to listen trolls that would like you to level down your game to basic porn material. Do the job as you like and want, stay true to yourself and you will be able to be proud of the good work. If you do so, noone may have the right to blame your for not doing what you promised.

Keep it up man.

 

[Ryahn]

Alright so I guess we cant be adults in here and have to argue like little kids.

If a message a deleted and was legitimate, sorry.

Lets not continue

 

[titokm10]

Alright so I guess we cant be adults in here and have to argue like little kids.

If a message a deleted and was legitimate, sorry.

Lets not continue

Please have in consideration people constatly complaning because the game is gonna be changed, its a message behind the other. I understand they would like the game to be with longer scenes but the game is gonna change the dev said it so if they can please stop i would apretiate it as its irritating and theres no point in complaining when a dev already made a decision.

Please have in consideration people constatly complaning because the game is gonna be changed, its a message behind the other. I understand they would like the game to be with longer scenes but the game is gonna change the dev said it so if they can please stop i would apretiate it as its irritating and theres no point in complaining when a dev already made a decision.

I won't argue about it anymore

 

[lynx33]

Totally forgot to mention how much I love the soccer mom. Her... we need to do stuff with her. A lot. And she needs a spin off game.

 

[Linger_Dinger]

Nice to see occasionally also some more reasonable and fair comments to the game. Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Actually, I'm aware of almost all your points.
1) I'm using interjections only in dialogues, naturally. It's shorter, quicker graspable and IMO more authentic in a dialogue for a game of this kind.
2) Humph, I think this scene is natural enough, especially for such kind of game/story. And you have always a choice! Sophia wanted to talk with her son about the incident from last night. After that she wanted to distract him a bit and offered to push him on the swing. They chatted a bit and then Dylan offered to push her too. Sophia can say yes. Then Dylan asks her to push her stronger. Well ok, why not. Sophia swinged higher and higher and that's why Dylan pushed her deeper and deeper till he pushed her by her butt. Sophia could stop him or continue a while. Then she stops anyway after Dylan's pinch. Then she can decide to react understandingly or badmouth him.
Actually, how much more natural can a "son grabs mom's butt" scene be?
"Oh hey, Mom, you got something on your butt. Let me wipe it away for you! ... Oh, it doesn't go away. I have to rub stronger!"??? I mean every scene where a son would grab his mom's butt is not natural by itself. And every movie and book has coincidences. It would be very boring if we would see a movie or read a book where only "casual" things would happen.
3) There will be more characters in this game with different personalities. It has its meaning why Dylan, Sam and Zac got this kind of personality.
4) It was also my initial plan, to have a more natural flow of a day including some little facets of it which doesn't contribute much to the story. Especially later they will give you some natural rest of the "erotic scenes".
5) I already got some native speaker who is correcting the language. I think the next Version 0.025 will have all the text of 0.02 corrected.
6) Well, the choices... Actually, the vast majority laments that this game has too much "unnecessary stuff". And then including choices which have no effect on the story? And including more choices which have an effect on the story is also not so easy. The game is planned for 30 playable days and I already got some different routes and many characters. And I'm developing this game all alone. Including more choices with even slight effects would not only increase the amount of renders but also could easily lead to many bugs and inconsistencies.
7) And now to the most important point: Patreon.
To find a new platform as popular as Patreon and which also allows such fetishes is not that easy. I think there is not even one! And censorship is also what I though about. To release 2 versions of the game. One for Patreon where I will put all the "Patreon-forbidden" scenes out of the game and just write: "next scene is not available" for example. And another uncensored version which I will post on a little website for example. The only problem, I still don't know how to inform my patrons of the uncensored version without Patreon get wind of it. Unfortunately all the solutions I heard by now were not very satisfying.

Hey Dev, What if you put like for patron to download game put a normal censored game in rar with a text file "README.txt" in which you can explain what's with censored and all and then have a link in it to a mega or google download for uncencored game. Like Patron won't know that you doing it and all. :/

 

[coolboy88]

To find a new platform as popular as Patreon and which also allows such fetishes is not that easy. I think there is not even one! And censorship is also what I though about. To release 2 versions of the game. One for Patreon where I will put all the "Patreon-forbidden" scenes out of the game and just write: "next scene is not available" for example. And another uncensored version which I will post on a little website for example. The only problem, I still don't know how to inform my patrons of the uncensored version without Patreon get wind of it. Unfortunately all the solutions I heard by now were not very satisfying.

Maybe you should open up a website like summertime saga and DMD, then let your patreon know that more info about the next version will be found from the website.

 

[stoper]

Maybe you should open up a website like summertime saga and DMD, then let your patreon know that more info about the next version will be found from the website.

Isn't this against Patreon rules? Linking directly to the forbidden content completely defeats the purpose of have a forbidden content to begin with.