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kingscard

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Problem is really, what the consumer/player want it to be, rather than what it actually is. He is making and delivering an adult game and people throw a fit because it doesn't fit their own narrative. I find it good as it is, I have no desire to get rushed to the money shoot, or impose my own fetish onto other players because I want to see it in the game. What others might see as meaningless, I see as a creator that put a lot of work and thought into his game. For those that want something else there is plenty of adult content on the internet to consume that would appeal to their fetish and desire more.

Don't get me wrong, the content in this game is outstanding. Every part of every render is almost unique. The story is well written and the slow built fit my standard, as I tend to abandon a game when the first fuck is given. But there are things that are relevant and things that aren't. The time consommued by the dev to do the guitar lesson is huge, and the result doesn't add so much to the game/story.

My 50 cents, the Dev can to what he want :). If I write a comment it's only because I care.
 

lockerxx

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lust and passion post something in his patreon
 

n0b0dy

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It should be called "Groping A Wife And Mother". Kinda overdose of it...Especially with some strange guys and a bunch of little shitheads:( Mc feels represented more like a meat, than a person...Not very inspiring so far :(
That is how most nukiges (game that focuses on sex primary) with a female protagonist are. I have played a few of them and the "heroine" usually is a naive girl with less than half a brain cell that get's molested in all kinds of horrible ways by her male sex-obsessed counterparts and of course she ends up enjoying the shit out of it and becoming a sex-addict because of porn logic.

I found this game actually one of the least offenders in that regard. Of course the men are still mostly portrayed as predatory creeps that value Sophia not for her mind but her body only but with Sophia you actually have the option to get angry and stop people when they are groping you or are acting inappropriately (this is often not the case in these games) and she is more intelligent than most of her womanly counterparts in other nukiges. So Sophia is more in control over her actions and sexuality then the MC of "Lilly of the valley" and the like where they really can't stop the abuse so that is a step forward in my book.

If you are really looking for an adult game with a female protagonist that is not strongly objectified your best bet is probably to try a "otome" which is a game with a (straight) female protagonist that (often) has sex-scenes but not as a prime focus. These kind of games are much more romance orientated but also a lot lighter in sexual content and are also targeted for a female audience instead of only a male one. An example is which I have not played myself but have heard is pretty good.

It also plays on the age gap between them, its a nice touch. Even though for someone her age in the game and the time it set too, Beatles would been a bit before her time as well.
The Beatles are still one of the most successful, celebrated and well-known bands of all time and well-loved by a much larger group than those who grew up in the 60'. I know quite a few people from age 20-35 who are into them even though they never experienced them being around. So it makes sense she used them as a reference even if she is a lot younger than The Beatles themselves. You can not really name a band from post-2000 (when she was young) that has had a even remotely similar impact or status as them.
 

stoper

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I found this game actually one of the least offenders in that regard. Of course the men are still mostly portrayed as predatory creeps that value Sophia not for her mind but her body only but with Sophia you actually have the option to get angry and stop people when they are groping you or are acting inappropriately (this is often not the case in these games) and she is more intelligent than most of her womanly counterparts in other nukiges. So Sophia is more in control over her actions and sexuality then the MC of "Lilly of the valley" and the like where they really can't stop the abuse so that is a step forward in my book.
Well that's the thing, the few sexual situation that we've seen already were all of the same type - the woman being groped in some manner (the principal, the basketball, the fitness center). And stopping the scene is surely an option, but if you're going to skip all scenes then why are you playing a porn game to begin with?
And I completely disagree about Lily of the Valley. Not only you have the same choice to skip scenes there, but there were plenty of scenes where Lily is the one in control of the situation.
 
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n0b0dy

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Well that's the thing, the few sexual situation that we've seen already were all of the same type - the woman being groped in some manner (the principal, the basketball, the fitness center). And stopping the scene is surely an option, but if you're going to skip all scenes then why are you playing a porn game to begin with?
I obviously do not skip all scenes but I do usually like these games better if the characters act in a somewhat intelligent manner (I have a intelligence fetish :test:) so I usually let the protagonist act in a way that seems somewhat natural to me since I enjoy it more that way. So that means getting angry at strangers when they grope Sophia etc. I sometimes do a "complete slut run" after doing a normal route because that can be fun too but only if you have a choice to also let the protag not be involved with everybody in town so I as a player feel in control over the situation. I avoid female protagonist games where you are kind of forced to let the character become a stupid sex-addict because then I get so annoyed with her behaviour I can not enjoy the game. I know, I am a little strange that way but hey that's sexuallity for you right?

And I completely disagree about Lily of the Valley. Not only you have the same choice to skip scenes there, but there were plenty of scenes where Lily is the one in control of the situation.
It has been a while since I played it but I remember Lily being dumber than a stack of bricks and as I experienced the game she was controlled by others from the start and you could not do much about it. I have to admit I did stop early out of frustration and boredom so maybe things get better later in the game, I don't know.
 

Hyped

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After another playthough, I think I finally get it. The lack of congruence in the feel of this game. The characters seem to be stuck in an 80s sitcom world, with shiny modern day coating. From the groping employer to the creepy gym instructor. There's no way this is the western world in 2018, with almost all the male characters that aren't the husband acting creepy.

The comments screaming racist perhaps went a little too far, but if I were the dev, I'd be wary of using overused racial and gender stereotypes, if only to be a little original.
 

Kendra

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That is how most nukiges (game that focuses on sex primary) with a female protagonist are. I have played a few of them and the "heroine" usually is a naive girl with less than half a brain cell that get's molested in all kinds of horrible ways by her male sex-obsessed counterparts and of course she ends up enjoying the shit out of it and becoming a sex-addict because of porn logic.
Yeah, this is kinda really sad.

Guess it was my own problem of a wrong expectations, reading this: "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?" i've expected to play as an active, adult and sexy woman, that have a lot of choises and possibilities to explore her sexuality. And so far i've felt more like playing as some dumb cunt with less than a half brain, with the only choise of whom will grope her & who will she spread her stupid cunt legs before in furture, cause it's the only 2 desicions her ammount of brain is capable of(be it some underage fucker...or maybe some ape-like mover, who doesn't know his place...or maybe some bum in the street in future updates?).

Of ~1500 renders i've found about 2-3 intresting situation(~10-20 reders each, lesbian around) :(

Ty for suggestion, but i can't stand all those japanese VNs :(
 
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Yeah, this is kinda really sad.

Guess it was my own problem of a wrong expectations, reading this: "So, will she stay the good, faithful wife or will she fall into all the temptations and become a filthy wh**e soon?" i've expected to play as an active, adult and sexy woman, that have a lot of choises and possibilities to explore her sexuality. And so far i've felt more like playing as some dumb cunt with less than a half brain, with the only choise of whom will grope her & who will she spread her stupid cunt legs before in furture, cause it's the only 2 desicions her ammount of brain is capable of(be it some underage fucker...or maybe some ape-like mover, who doesn't know his place...or maybe some bum in the street in future updates?).

Of ~1500 renders i've found about 2-3 intresting situation(~10-20 reders each, lesbian around) :(

Ty for suggestion, but i can't stand all those japanese VNs :(
Remember, you don't turn a total slut from the opposite in matter of 3 days though :p
 

dedi33

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Very very very good game. But one question: it s a detail but why are the upstairs corridor in the house so large ? It s even larger than the livingroom or the bedrooms ! It make a very cold atmosphere when we see it and I think you should make it narrower and cozier...
 
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dedi33

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Also on Patreon there is a pic of Sophia playing double bass with Sam... Is it on the version 0.02 ? How do you get this scene?
 
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Lust&Passion

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Also on Patreon there is a pic of Sophia playing double bass with Sam... Is it on the version 0.02 ? How do you get this scene?
I'm very glad you like the game!
1) The "problem" with the size of some rooms is mainly because I've started to develop the game on rpg maker first. That's why I had to find suitable rooms for the rpg maker maps so that both 3D world and rpg maker world look similar. The same with the corridor. Actually, I was looking for a bigger living room but none was suitable to the architecture of any rpg maker map. And I also needed urgently a living room which has a connection to the kitchen. But the corridors and stairs are suitable to such a big mansion. I also think that the bedrooms are ok.
2) To reach that scene with Sam you need the highest relationship with him before the music lesson. And during the lesson you just have to click on every decision where you get more points with him.
 

Tucker343

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I like this game so far and think the writing/story telling is the best part. Two things really bother me tho 1) The moms face just looks weird to me. Which is odd because every other girl/woman looks like a super model 11/10. 2) All the younger "18 year old" boys in the game look like under developed 13 year old middle schoolers. Aside from those two points alone I still enjoined playing this game.
 
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