VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[Poser_Voyeur]

Hey, keep calm. Yes it is politically correct. It fits in with the times. But it also corresponds to my value system. Everyone has their fetishes here. And I don't like this one at all. When people, men, women and children are forced to do something. To experience that is uncomfortable for me. Even if it only happens in one story. Just as you don't have to apologize for your fetishes here, so can I share my opinion on it.

For me personally I am fine with say, as an example, Elves forced to fuck Orcs and /or Goblins because that is clearly unequivocally a Fantasy. The less fantastical and more realistic the setting, the more uncomfortable I find it. With a VN like AWAM that at the very least TRIES to be realistic, it definitely makes me uncomfortable. Hence my criticisms of Aiden's brutishness as Ares.

I was hoping for Aiden's corruption of Sophia for each individual step being harmless enough that Sophia accepts it without noticing the cumulative affect of how far we have come. If it relies on Sophia being physically forced, then I am not so keen.

 

[hzjujk]

Look, if you are an American I give up arguing with you on this subject. This politically correct thing is so specifically American stuff that trying to question it with you Americans is wasted effort. Keep it if you like.

Ha, no, I'm German. And I don't argue about it. It's a manifesto. It is my position on the matter. Even if, as I have to admit, we watered it down a bit with this game. That's called corruption.

 

[Squark ⚧❤️]

Regarding Aidan's underworld connections, I don't think any criminal organisation would actually deal with anyone who's just going to become an enormous man-child.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

As a legend subscriber how do I get my username on the game credits as promised

you must be patreon legend from day one

 

[Dan5k74]

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[Squark ⚧❤️]

you must be patreon legend from day one

Maximum suckage.

 

[ancienregimele]

The 3rd task was the last "forceful" to keep Dylan. The 4th task will be optional. But only if you did the right decisions before. And Sophia will also need to think about the decision carefully.
So is this decision time for choosing either Bennett or Aiden?

I choose both. I hope it's not a case of one or the other.

 

[xxxorro]

Your assertion is correct.
Letting Dylan face Aiden can make things better or worse. Especially since Aiden will certainly not be fairplay

I still wonder what are the possibilities (even if I have some ideas), especially since this blackmail had for origin Dylan >>>> What could be the solution imagined by Dylan and Aiden to overcome Sophia's reluctance. If L&P was able to easily change this aspect (blackmail's origin), it is because the overall story was not really changed...

PS As the 'hobos' left, San Alejo Beavers returned to the park.

Well the scheme with The Twist was to use the extortion to force Sophia to dress more sexy, but, as it was revealed, the tasks were Aiden's initiative, Dylan was completely unaware of it.
If the Twist had been maintained, the only thing that would change is Dylan's attitude towards Aiden. Unaware of the tasks and the deal, he will be pretending to be pissed off at Aiden only to keep the up with the scheme. Here instead he really despises him and he is ready to go to war with him.

The 3rd task was the last "forceful" to keep Dylan. The 4th task will be optional. But only if you did the right decisions before. And Sophia will also need to think about the decision carefully.
So is this decision time for choosing either Bennett or Aiden?

We know the next PD has the 4th task and the "comfortable solution".
If the comfortable solution is Morello the 4th task can still happen because it's scheduled before the Morello's. In this case the right decisions would be having all Larry's points probably, so Don can help Sophia. And the 4th task will be the last drop in terms of humiliation.

If it is not Morello is hard to say what it could be. And I don't see a possibility that ties the comfortable solution to what point you reach on 3rd task. We speculated that the 3rd task may give Sophia some leverage to call off the deal but it is really not the case.

It leaves that
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)
of the next update that can give something for the comfortable solution.
I dunno know if we have intel on that event. It could also be the Cathy event, even if it should happen in the evening, before or after the concert, but it was scheduled for the afternoon. Maybe he changed it or simply it is something else

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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[ancienregimele]

Well the scheme with The Twist was to use the extortion to force Sophia to dress more sexy, but as it was revealed we also know that the tasks were Aiden's initiative, Dylan was completely unaware of it.
If the Twist had been maintained, the only thing that would change is Dylan's attitude towards Aiden. Unaware of the tasks and the deal, he will be be pissed off to Aiden only to keep the up with the scheme. Here instead he really despises him and he is ready to go to war with him.


We know the next PD has the 4th task and the "comfortable solution".
If the comfortable solution is Morello the 4th task can still happen because it's scheduled before the Morello's. In this case the right decisions would be having all Larry's points probably, so Don can help Sophia. And the 4th task will be the last drop in terms of humiliation.

If it is not Morello is hard to say what it could be. And I don't see a possibility that ties the conformable solution to what point you reach on 3rd task. We speculated that the 3rd task may give Sophia some leverage to call off the deal but it is really not the case.

Months ago, after the casino event, I & others predicted that the Mafia connection would spell the end for the blackmail by both Bennett & Aiden. It's hard to think otherwise but just having a Mafia Don amongst your aquaintances doesn't mean he's going to solve your everyday problems. So, right now, I'm just waiting to see what the options are. I'm sure the Morellos will feature soon. Arguably, the Morellos pose a far greater long-term, deeper & more existential threat than either of the school scumbags.

If the blackmail can continue in a relatively "realistic" way by AWAM standards, that will be what I opt for. If it is the case I'm also looking forward to the departure from the routes of all the Aiden-haters, Bennett-despisers, coercion-abominators etc., etc. Then the incest-lovers can have their fantasies untramelled by those who would stoop to blackmail & I can stop coming to the defence of a couple of evil sods. I've already done what I can to steer off the Sophia/Dylan route & am reconciled to the prescence of incest, as long as it's somewhere in the game & not in my face. I'm hopeful that soon we'll all get along in the spirit of "to each his/her own."

What I don't want is for Sophia to start revelling in the tasks or taking the initiative, which is something I think I can see coming. It's either blackmail or a sex game called "blackmail" but it can't be both. AWAM, by the standards of adult corruption games has the lightest touch regarding coercion than any I've ever played. Overall the game hasn't suffered because of this but rather has been more believable & thus enjoyable....to this point. It doesn't need any more watering down because it's already avoidable & as I've said before, the number of ways to stop it will end up as almost embarrassing.

 

[lockerxx]

You forgot to include inflation over the period

and the cut of patreon...

 

[Scarlet56]

I don't understand why protest with realism.
If we want realism, we choose the Pure GW route and we refuse the slightest extramarital temptation and that's it.
But in that case, why come and play an erotic or porn VN?
After a while, if we want to have access to hot events (and fetishes), we have no choice but to break realism.
Here in AWAM, for realism, we need rather in the sense, a universe of realism, with realistic characters.
Everything else is up to the player.
That's my opinion anyway.

 

[Old Dog]

Well the scheme with The Twist was to use the extortion to force Sophia to dress more sexy, but, as it was revealed, the tasks were Aiden's initiative, Dylan was completely unaware of it.
If the Twist had been maintained, the only thing that would change is Dylan's attitude towards Aiden. Unaware of the tasks and the deal, he will be pretending to be pissed off at Aiden only to keep the up with the scheme. Here instead he really despises him and he is ready to go to war with him.


We know the next PD has the 4th task and the "comfortable solution".
If the comfortable solution is Morello the 4th task can still happen because it's scheduled before the Morello's. In this case the right decisions would be having all Larry's points probably, so Don can help Sophia. And the 4th task will be the last drop in terms of humiliation.

If it is not Morello is hard to say what it could be. And I don't see a possibility that ties the comfortable solution to what point you reach on 3rd task. We speculated that the 3rd task may give Sophia some leverage to call off the deal but it is really not the case.

It leaves that
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)
of the next update that can give something for the comfortable solution.
I dunno know if we have intel on that event. It could also be the Cathy event, even if it should happen in the evening, before or after the concert, but it was scheduled for the afternoon. Maybe he changed it or simply it is something else

Sophia/Liam will find out how well/bad the prison visit went at the end of this day either through a phone call or a meeting with Morello.
So Sophia could make the phone to Morello (depending on players choice and certain decisions made before hand) the very next day.
The "Cumare" comes into play
Also do you think that they record conversations during prison visits?

 

[bayrischman]

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Assuming this is a bug, what should be the correct value? The maximum amount of Dylan points that can be earned so far (>= 42)? Has the dev said anything about this?

apparently he has already confirmed that 54 is a mistake. it,s only 42 points. i don,t understand why he doesn,t fix the error.

 

[ancienregimele]

I don't understand why protest with realism.
If we want realism, we choose the Pure GW route and we refuse the slightest extramarital temptation and that's it.
But in that case, why come and play an erotic or porn VN?
After a while, if we want to have access to hot events (and fetishes), we have no choice but to break realism.
Here in AWAM, for realism, we need rather in the sense, a universe of realism, with realistic characters.
Everything else is up to the player.
That's my opinion anyway.

When I first started playing AWAM 3 or more years ago, I played the GW route precisely because this seemed the most realistic option. It was too dull & uneventful at that time & so I went instead for the accumulation of filthy points. Fast forwarding to now & skipping the various debates & speculations, we've arrived at a point where the game/VN contains a range of options, kinks & fetishes on the different routes.

I feel that the only way to move the stories forward without everything being projected to last another 2 decades & assuming that side jobs & the number of characters are not going to be pruned, is to start some real action. This in turn could make realism suffer & could be a very hard balancing act. [The 2nd side job recently went too fast for me but it's all a matter of personal taste].

If I'm right in thinking that we are close to being able to further separate the different routes, why not stop revving up & put the foot to the accelerator, for all of them. True, it's not ideal but in the absence of any changes in working practices of the Dev, what other solutions are there?

 

[sphynks80]

Love I don't know, but strong physical attraction will be.
And we have proof, L&P "equipped" Aiden with a big dick for a reason

2 + 2 equals four, hahahaha.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I like the game. My only complaint is the Good Wife route has so much less scenes. Agreed most ppl will want a salacious Sophia's descent into whoredom but if the game presents the choices in such a way, it should develop storylines on the good wife side as well. e.g. If she's a good wife, show some stories around that and even sex scenes with husband more. Scenes with just husband can also be made sexy or story about how she goes about catching her cheating husband n all.

Relax they might be swingers on the GW path

 

[ancienregimele]

Sophia/Liam will find out how well/bad the prison visit went at the end of this day either through a phone call or a meeting with Morello.
So Sophia could make the phone to Morello (depending on players choice and certain decisions made before hand) the very next day.
The "Cumare" comes into play
Also do you think that they record conversations during prison visits?

There are prisons which definitely do not record the private conversations with visitors. I don't know what the practice is in the US but with organised crime inmates it seems possible, especially given the number of bugs known to have been placed in high-ranking crime bosses' homes, let alone prisons.

 

[Madmartigan9999]

Hello Guys, i've had problems with 2 games so far, the latest being A Wife And Mother 0.130.
I downloaded the non crunch version and on launch i got the text bug.
Loading any save then crash renpy with the windows mesage error.
Any idea how to fix this one ?
I'm still on windows 7 64 bits and other "updated renpy games" works fine.

 

[Deleted member 2183629]

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