VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[xxxorro]

I think the whole Morello as an out for either of Sophia's extortionists doesn't hold an ounce of water. This especially doesn't make sense until Sophia/Liam have completely satisfied their debt. This is business, right? Why would Sophia be allowed to open up additional credit lines before satisfying the first line of credit? Doesn't make sense.

From the dialogues Don makes clear that it's not a matter of money but principle. And he is not interested in getting back the money as he knows they can't afford it at the moment.
Once again we have to look at it in the perspective of the "Family", the honor system and the willing to make his brother happy (and not singing, above all). So for him the visit is enough to pay the debt, and maybe listening how far went Sophia to make Larry happy will make Don appreciate the effort and, given her status of cumare, provide for her safety as she's now part of the family.
Again, it's a very stretched explanation that I found myself very unlikely to happen in real life, but at least it could make a bit more of sense in the game once you consider the premises and the "Family" context.
And don't get me wrong, I can see myself grasping at straws, it's just an attempt to find a bit more realistic interpretation.

As nexer pointed out so well, I too think that the place where Sam will be performing will most likely be this one:
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The presence of the logo (El Mocandos) immediately hints at the famous Toronto live music venue (

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) where rock bands like U2, Ramones, Rolling Stones etc. have performed over the years so I think the stage will be laid out in this configuration. In addition to this, without disturbing such a sacred place for live music for the performance of a fledgling garage band, I think the presence of the palm tree in the bar's logo is perfect to justify what Sam anticipated during his first guitar lesson to Sophia (...Just one of those bars at the beach).
I also think that the stage layout will not deviate much from the one depicted in the image shown above. In fact, I think Sam's show will not be a group performance, but a solo electric guitar performance. This would greatly reduce L&P's involvement in developing the scene (fewer characters involved, fewer renders to produce, less time to waste on any aspect of his work) and would bring the characters presumably starring in it (Sam and Sophia) into focus more quickly.
It would also be more in line with the developer's tendency to lower expectations of this event. In fact, having placed Sam's performance, in temporary order, before Sophia and Liam's visit to Cathy and Andy's house, in my opinion, greatly limits the possible developments of this event.
Therefore, I think that Kevin (the guy in whose garage Sam usually plays) and the other members of Sam's band won't show up (perhaps due to too much stage fright) and that Sam will have to perform alone playing a single song in a nearly deserted venue (given the time of the appointment with Cathy and Andy his event will inevitably take place around 8/9pm). In this rather disappointing atmosphere, Sam should not miss the chance to turn his performance into a serenade to dedicate to the girl of his (wet) dreams that he would like to cum true. To achieve this, he should play a particularly evocative song whose notes evoke a clear and unequivocal message in the heart of his muse: Sophia.
I suggest this song:

Spoiler: Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch

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Joking aside, I don't know what are the limits not to be exceeded in order to avoid transgressing international copyright laws (even if in the game I already seemed to hear some more or less original songs), but if it were possible, since both Sophia and Sam are classic rock lovers, I would choose this famous power ballad as the song to dedicate to Sophia:

If it is really a beach bar I would expect to be an outdoorsy settings rather than a enclosed space.
But kudos for finding out this interesting location with a reference to a famous place, it's the kind of thing that we could expect to be in the game given L&P sense for details!

I meant to write something about Sam's event as I have the impression that the concert itself won't take much space in the game because, e.g., contrary to the art modelling there is not much build up in the concert itself.
The only "interesting" thing that can happen is what you mention, Sam dedicating a love song to an anonymous lady in the public that has stolen his heart. That would warm Sophia up for later. And good choice for the kind of song the he would play!

But that's it, I don't think we will see much of the concert itself, the big event I think will be after. I guess it will also make L&P life easier to skim through the concert part as it can be a mess to model, light and render.

It's just a feeling that I have, then maybe he will take up the challenge and make a crazy amount of awesome renders covering the whole live performance

 

[nexer]

To be realistic, what Don Morello did is like showing a child a lollipop and then hiding it. Larry can't help but keep asking for it, I think it's more than human. So either we have L&P's words that it can all stop there, or Larry's route is longer.

 

[nexer]

As nexer pointed out so well, I too think that the place where Sam will be performing will most likely be this one:
View attachment 1318402
The presence of the logo (El Mocandos) immediately hints at the famous Toronto live music venue (

You must be registered to see the links

) where rock bands like U2, Ramones, Rolling Stones etc. have performed over the years so I think the stage will be laid out in this configuration. In addition to this, without disturbing such a sacred place for live music for the performance of a fledgling garage band, I think the presence of the palm tree in the bar's logo is perfect to justify what Sam anticipated during his first guitar lesson to Sophia (...Just one of those bars at the beach).

I think L&P can remove a wall if necessary.
As far as I know, Sam doesn't sing vocals, so just a guitar solo.

 

[Old Dog]

I think L&P can remove a wall if necessary.
As far as I know, Sam doesn't sing vocals, so just a guitar solo.

Sam is a rhythm guitarists, as for vocals who knows, but Andy Summers also sang as well.

 

[mulerider]

As nexer pointed out so well, I too think that the place where Sam will be performing will most likely be this one:
View attachment 1318402
The presence of the logo (El Mocandos) immediately hints at the famous Toronto live music venue (

You must be registered to see the links

) where rock bands like U2, Ramones, Rolling Stones etc. have performed over the years so I think the stage will be laid out in this configuration. In addition to this, without disturbing such a sacred place for live music for the performance of a fledgling garage band, I think the presence of the palm tree in the bar's logo is perfect to justify what Sam anticipated during his first guitar lesson to Sophia (...Just one of those bars at the beach).
I also think that the stage layout will not deviate much from the one depicted in the image shown above. In fact, I think Sam's show will not be a group performance, but a solo electric guitar performance. This would greatly reduce L&P's involvement in developing the scene (fewer characters involved, fewer renders to produce, less time to waste on any aspect of his work) and would bring the characters presumably starring in it (Sam and Sophia) into focus more quickly.
It would also be more in line with the developer's tendency to lower expectations of this event. In fact, having placed Sam's performance, in temporary order, before Sophia and Liam's visit to Cathy and Andy's house, in my opinion, greatly limits the possible developments of this event.
Therefore, I think that Kevin (the guy in whose garage Sam usually plays) and the other members of Sam's band won't show up (perhaps due to too much stage fright) and that Sam will have to perform alone playing a single song in a nearly deserted venue (given the time of the appointment with Cathy and Andy his event will inevitably take place around 8/9pm). In this rather disappointing atmosphere, Sam should not miss the chance to turn his performance into a serenade to dedicate to the girl of his (wet) dreams that he would like to cum true. To achieve this, he should play a particularly evocative song whose notes evoke a clear and unequivocal message in the heart of his muse: Sophia.
I suggest this song:

Spoiler: Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch

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Joking aside, I don't know what are the limits not to be exceeded in order to avoid transgressing international copyright laws (even if in the game I already seemed to hear some more or less original songs), but if it were possible, since both Sophia and Sam are classic rock lovers, I would choose this famous power ballad as the song to dedicate to Sophia:

Great song

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

There's been an issue with Bennett ever since it was announced that he was being curtailed. We've referenced &/or used this knowledge ever since, for a number of years in real time. At first I couldn't quite understand how there wasn't a bigger outcry about his upcoming departure, until I realised that there's hardly any blackmail followers/fans on this thread, or apparently amongst the paying patrons, at least as far as Bennett is concerned. So, a major storyline with huge potential was to be axed & the reaction was minimal & in some cases, apparently, a cause for celebration.

Now IMO, this goes to show what a great villain had been created, albeit one that didn't suit the young fanbase, (cue Aiden), many of whom possibly recognise aspects of their own current teachers in the sleazy individual. Aiden is 17/18, so whatever people think, it's not realistic to believe that he could be as imaginative as Bennett, with their relative experiences & education. It's just one of several reasons that I wish Bennett could be restored to full participation. Many folks don't like him now but if well-written events could be conjured from the pen of L&P, it's possible that more fans of coerced corruption could be added to the fanbase. He gets results & is a genuine 'love to hate' personality.

As for Don Morello & Larry, I referred from the moment they appeared to the potential solutions to the blackmail problem(s). This was because, a) it was obvious in the context of this type of game/VN & b) it seemed an easy get-out for the writer, which could be activated at any time. I suggest, however, that this wouldn't be especially likely in real life. Sophia visited the prison & did 'whatever' & this was the deal at the time. Morello has the Parkers on his books as debtors. Liam owes him & the Don doesn't owe the Parkers anything except to stick to his word. It wouldn't take much to make the blackmail go away but remember this is business & where's the profit in such action? Sophia is compliant, Liam is up to his neck in debt. They're in no position to request any favours & please don't tell me that the Morellos would do something out of the goodness of their hearts & their appreciation of Sophia....please.

Larry might have a moment of 'charity' with another visit, I suppose but like Bennett, he's on the "not wanted on voyage" list of poll absentees. Where does this leave all the loose ends? So I say, roll on the concert & "Bring Back the Full Bennett."

The game has too many storylines and some just need to be cut. Sometimes you have to make hard choices and I think Bennett was one of them

 

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[Dan5k74]

Since Morello/Larry are loosely based on "The Godfather" film here is a quote
“I’m Gonna Make Him An Offer He Can’t Refuse.”

So far the only offer he can't refuse that I've found in this game is without a doubt this one:

 

[Tennyson@]

The game has too many storylines and some just need to be cut. Sometimes you have to make hard choices and I think Bennett was one of them

So aiden's storyline should also get cut out
Being blackmailed by a teen just because Dylan gets to stay home not in boarding school seems a bad writing for a bully character if task are getting this much extreme as 3rd task then the reason why she is accepting all this should be more serious than that which is not Aiden is just there to give Sophia more filthy points not an interesting storyline
Same goes for don morello introducing crime lord in your game for small events seems wastage of time if he is there just for few events L&P seems more focused on incest storyline and lesbian storyline than others

 

[Old Dog]

So aiden's storyline should also get cut out
Being blackmailed by a teen just because Dylan gets to stay home not in boarding school seems a bad writing for a bully character if task are getting this much extreme as 3rd task then the reason why she is accepting all this should be more serious than that which is not Aiden is just there to give Sophia more filthy points not an interesting storyline
Same goes for don morello introducing crime lord in your game for small events seems wastage of time if he is there just for few events L&P seems more focused on incest storyline and lesbian storyline than others

Aiden is the 4th highest person in the poll so I doubt that he will get cut from the game.

 

[Old Dog]

Hi Dr.
may you tell me if the little bonus event with Sophia is still relevant plz ?

(Afternoon) Just after Dylan/Ellie :
A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)

Are you sure that you don't mean the next day?
As there is a bonus scene during Aiden's 4th task

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Hi Dr.
may you tell me if the little bonus event with Sophia is still relevant plz ?

(Afternoon) Just after Dylan/Ellie :
A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)

It should be, but I don't know how big it's going to be.

 

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[Dr.SigmundFap]

Are you sure that you don't mean the next day?
As there is a bonus event during Aiden's 4th task

I'll have to double-check but I think L&P said there was a little bonus event in this upcoming update.

 

[Old Dog]

I'll have to double-check but I think L&P said there was a little bonus event in this upcoming update.

It must be very small then if L&P has not even posted it and he has said himself that this update will have 4 events but lets wait and see what Dr.Fapalot can find out.

 

[Tennyson@]

Aiden is the 4th highest person in the poll so I doubt that he will get cut from the game.

Nah I didn't mean he will get cut out
I was just presenting a view that these popular storylines in the game does not have that much strong reasons to be continued as reasons behind all that corruption is weak
Ofcourse he will continue the storylines which are most voted by his members

 

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[Deleted member 3325933]

The work on the plot with Natalie is over!
It was relatively fast.
I think if this pace of work continues, we can expect an update by the end of October or the beginning of November.

If he achieves a July to October run- 3 months +/- then he can get to a minimum of 1 day to maybe 1 1/3 PD a year release rate. It may be enough to keep some true believers engaged. He still needs to get to a 2 PD or better a year release rate or this will be the next decade for completion. Here is hoping for you Bane.

 

[xxxorro]

Are you sure that you don't mean the next day?
As there is a bonus scene during Aiden's 4th task

Hi Dr.
may you tell me if the little bonus event with Sophia is still relevant plz ?

(Afternoon) Just after Dylan/Ellie :
A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later)

I think it's coming from here https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-130-lust-passion.5944/post-4312357

Update 0.150
(Afternoon)
1) Nathalie
2) Dylan/Ellie (very small side event)
3) A little bonus storyline with Sophia (with interesting options for later) --> probably Cathy's event
(Evening)
4) Sam

and the bonus storyline would be Cathy's event which was not mentioned explicitly to keep the surprise from the previous update, in which the dressing event was supposed to be a surprise.

Interestingly he put it before Sam's concert in that post...

 

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