VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

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[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I know it's not fair to compare this game to DIK, but I can't help wondering what could have been if he just started small before taking on a bigger game like Dr. Pink did. Pink produces only one update for the game per year with DIK, but that update contains so much work, detail, effort and replayability that people literally don't mind getting just that one update a year. There was a good possibility L&P could have been on that level if he had just started with a smaller project first.

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[Bishop Robert]

Does anyone here actually know what this addon gimmick is meant to be?

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[ancienregimele]

Does anyone here actually know what this addon gimmick is meant to be?

No, the best educated guess remains better animations but nobody here really knows.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Sure it is, and sometimes shit happens, but certainly the situation is not ideal. The first guy leaving is bad enough, but alone it could be bad luck, but the second guy is a problem. If it's accurate that the second assistant was let go/fired/whatever because he wasn't skilled enough, then that is something L&P should have known from the beginning. So he wasted more time, and is now on his third assistant in less than two months; that's a bad look.

But it really wouldn't be a big deal, except for the fact that whatever these assistants are working on is vital to the next release. That means L&P is learning in real-time while it's also directly delaying the next release. That's just really poor time management. All of these growing pains that should be worked out behind the scenes, in a low-pressure environment, have instead been pushed to forefront. If this new feature is critical for the update, then he should have been working on it and building his team months ago; otherwise he should have delayed its implementation until a later update.

It's just a bad situation overall.

I have been unaware of the revolving door for the 'assistants'. I concur it is a bad look. IF it is real. I think this is rapidly headed toward a fail and this is just another excuse. I do not believe he actually hired anyone. Will the two that were kicked to the curb stand up and just say yeah I got booted. It may almost be a badge of honor considering what so many think of L&P. Not gonna happen for a multitude of reasons. My number one is they never existed. That is OK however as it just keeps going into my dump truck full of reasons to press on.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Jesus Christ, if this is accurate then it's always something with this game. If he's on his third assistant in less than two months, then something went wrong in the hiring process. How is it that nothing, NOTHING, ever goes according to plan for L&P?

Sometimes I think this game is successful despite L&P, and not because of him.

I don't think The Christ has anything to do with this. However, some guy named Jesus from Miami or San Ajelo maybe. Back to Na na na na na They don't exist na na na na.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.155.

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[lockerxx]

Progress Report Ver. 0.155.

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[palmtrees89]

Does anyone here actually know what this addon gimmick is meant to be?

All we know so far is that it's likely connected to L&P using Blender, and his statement about it being the perfect time to introduce the new feature for part 2 of AWAM due to increasingly hot events. He also mentioned that it's something he wanted to do for a long time. To me, all of this sounds like an effort to include actual animations to the game.

Problem with that is, if it's indeed animations, the huge delays don't make any sense. L&P himself said the update is gonna be short, and no skilled artist (the multiple skilled artists he's apparently found, and something about missing a guy for "the last part", whatever that's supposed to mean) would need several months to add a couple animations to a short update. There's not even gonna be enough "hot" content to implement an amount of animations justifying the huge delays.

Another thing that doesn't add up is his latest statement about moving on to update 2/10 without releasing the first one, as his "helper" apparently still needs more time to complete the task. UNLESS there is no other developer, which could explain why he's not ready to release update 1/10 if he still couldn't manage to create a solid animation matching his standards.

Anyway, in the end we don't know what this new feature's supposed to be. All I know is that it's gotta blow my head off my shoulders after all the hype he's produced regarding this "special" addition to the game, which I doubt is gonna happen.

 

[Talcum Powder]

All I know is that it's gotta blow my head off my shoulders after all the hype he's produced regarding this "special" addition to the game, which I doubt is gonna happen.

It will probably be good, nice, and notable but not enough to justify the hype. Maybe raise an eyebrow or two, at best ...

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Updated BigTable™ with the recent informations.
Hype!

• We recently hit the 3 Years Anniversary of Being a DIK with today 1,100 Days of development.
• The production ratio are clearly underwhelming but let's not forget DPC also had a COVID incident and it's a side-story.
  • DPC now seems to assemble animations, they could be around 60. Would need investigation after release.
  • As raw numbers, to hit the Ratio Average it would be supposed to be rush in 40 days total. So it's not relevant.
  • Estimated game size breakdown.
• The side-story might be released in 20 Days. Which project the release of EP9 around September.

EP	Renders	Animations	Music*	Size	Release Date	Development Time	Ratio*	R/D	A/D
EP1	1301	51	—	≈1.1 GB	07 Feb 2019	— days	—	—	—	EP2	1709 (+31%)	77 (+51%)	—	≈2.3 GB (+1.2 GB)	04 May 2019	087 (2 months, 28 days |≈12 weeks)	20.5	19.6	0.89	EP3	2289 (+34%)	99 (+29%)	—	≈4.1 GB (+1.8 GB)	16 Aug 2019	105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)	22.5	21.8	0.95	EP4	2532 (+11%)	134 (+35%)	—	≈6.1 GB (+2.0 GB)	10 Jan 2020	148 (4 months, 26 days |≈21 weeks)	18.0	17.1	0.91	EP5	2456 (-3%)	157 (+17%)	17 (3.4K$)	≈8.0 GB (+1.9 GB)	29 May 2020	141 (4 months, 20 days |≈20 weeks)	18.5	17.4	1.11	EP6	3336 (+35%)	162 (+3%)	24 (4.8K$)	≈11.1 GB (+3.1 GB)	13 Nov 2020	169 (5 months, 16 days |≈24 weeks)	20.7	19.7	0.96	EP7	3723 (+12%)	250 (+54%)	18 (3.6K$)	≈14.5 GB (+3.4 GB)	23 Apr 2021	162 (5 months, 11 days |≈23 weeks)	24.5	23.0	1.54	EP8	4158 (+12%)	358 (+43%)	34 (6.8K$)	≈19.5 GB (+5.0 GB)	19 Nov 2021	211 (6 months, 28 days |≈30 weeks)	21.4	19.7	1.70	SS1	793	36	19 (3.8K$)	≈2.6 GB (new .exe)	Early March	084 (2 months, 23 days |≈12 weeks)	9.8	9.4	0.43	EP9	—	—	—	—	in development	—	—	—	—

Complete Table with the help of Holy Bacchus† previous post. — Being a DIK in development since 3 years, 0 months, 4 days (36 months / 157 weeks / 1,100 days / 26,400 hours)
* 199$ Premium Licensed Music — Ratio: (Renders+Animations)/Development Time [Average: 20.9] — Renders/Days [Average: 19.8] — Animations/Days [Average: 1.15] — EP7+ New HW

Thumb up to well made Casiope DIK Walkthrough.

Thank you, am I seeing incorrectly or that is way more than 1 episode per year?

 

[Ivrol]

L&P is making 15% progress on Art and PS and it may be because this way the patreons can feel the game progress faster even though it's already almost 3 months in development for a smaller part of the game (1/3 of the updates from before), maybe this way their patreons accept the new 100% of the Addon (a highly possible DRM) in a less angry way.

 

[momojean]

Thank you, am I seeing incorrectly or that is way more than 1 episode per year?

it's called pure dishonesty and unhealthy manipulation. Pretending to praise someone, while slipping in false information to denigrate them in order to embellish L&P by comparison.
These worshipers are really really loyal. They go so far as to lie and discredit their own person to defend a liar.

 

[CSK92]

I don't count you in those "fans", you, GingerSweetGirl KillJoys , you are all not trusting his words and rightly so because he hasn't done anything to gain the trust. I don't trust the fact the next update will be out in 4-5 weeks after this one either. But do any of you whine on the thread everyday about this. You all State your criticisms in a respectful manner. Not resorting to abuses, name calling, taunting and I have nothing against them as there is no hostility in them.

Compare your statements to the "Fans" of this game and you'll see what I am talking about. I am against these abuses and name calling, not against criticising.

You guys are dicontent, so am I, but not to extent that we will cry here everyday. We see the scenario, we move on. My question is hence aimed at those people who get So Frustrated with this that they HAVE TO comment on it EVERYDAY and yet come back to torture themselves with same thing. And its not like they are spreading any positivity. So why torture oneself with this everyday.
And I would understand if such self torture would actually have a goal. This is aimless. What are they trying to achieve by saying it everyday.

I think you also contribute to the negativity here. I know you do for me. LOL. Maybe you should not be so defensive that you go on the Offensive. This is my favorite game going today, but at this point Im looking at defeat and all on this thread probably are also. Most are fans including me and want to see it finish. At this point honestly. Do you Sabertooth see this happening.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

Some of you guys care too much about what other people are saying in this thread.
In the end this is an internet forum and these are only comments, if you take what's written here too seriously or if you get heated by comments/engaging here then you're not in the right state of mind to hang around here. Nothing that happens here matters.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Some of you guys care too much about what other people are saying in this thread.
In the end this is an internet forum and these are only comments, if you take what's written here too seriously or if you get heated by comments/engaging here then you're not in the right state of mind to hang around here. Nothing that happens here matters.

I have heard Cyberbullies use the same logic to justify their cyberbullying and Harassment over the internet.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Some of you guys care too much about what other people are saying in this thread.
In the end this is an internet forum and these are only comments, if you take what's written here too seriously or if you get heated by comments/engaging here then you're not in the right state of mind to hang around here. Nothing that happens here matters.

The devs get affected by the negative and hate comments more than you think. They try their best to make something that they hope people likes and many times the users insult them and say that they are only interested in make money and nothing more. This is a serious thing, many devs decide to abandon the forum because of the hate. Just because you are not agree with the development time or the game itself, it isn't a reason to constantly trying to deteriorate someone's image. There's a person with feelings behind the screen, it's not just 'the internet' as you call it. There are ways to express yourself.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

The devs get affected by the negative and hate comments more than you think. They try their best to make something that they hope people likes and many times the users insult them and say that they are only interested in make money and nothing more. This is a serious thing, many devs decide to abandon the forum because of the hate. Just because you are not agree with the development time or the game itself, it isn't a reason to constantly trying to deteriorate someone's image. There's a person with feelings behind the screen, it's not just 'the internet' as you call it. There are ways to express yourself.

I admit that the thought of getting ripped apart forany theoretical game strikes enough angst into me that I don't think I'll ever do it. That thought does color my posts about L&P and I try really hard not to be a bitch...but sometimes I want to pull my hair out over his decision making.

 

[jonnybravo11]

L&P is making 15% progress on Art and PS and it may be because this way the patreons can feel the game progress faster even though it's already almost 3 months in development for a smaller part of the game (1/3 of the updates from before), maybe this way their patreons accept the new 100% of the Addon (a highly possible DRM) in a less angry way.

One third of previous update as a whole. Renders will be one third if one takes a guess. Even then progress is 50% faster. It should be 200% faster is all things are constant.
He moves the game circle by 15% instead of 10% so that it looks faster. Developer is not showing any real inclination for giving faster updates.

another thing, all who type in this forum care for AWAM at least if not for L&P. Most of here also care for fair compensation for developer. Some are blindly supporting developer even to point that any criticism of developer feels intrusive to them and they retaliate by bullshiting the other person.
Everyone should ask developer to make updates faster. Some might fear than quality will suffer, this could be true. But faster updates in previous times were as enjoyable to me as now, even though quality wise his work has gone better. Developer has got a gift and he would not compromise anything if he becomes keen raising his productivity.(within reason of course)