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Bill_Buttlicker

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Jul 13, 2018
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if the animation of L&P are on this level, then yes, its worth the time we waiting. if not its not, simple as that.
No one asked for or wanted animations. Adding that is what you do when the game is finished and you want to release a remastered version. To do so now is pointless and just frustrates people looking to see a completed game.
 

yihman1

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May 11, 2017
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I never deleted any comment on my site as long as they didn't contain any "inappropriate words" which you shouldn't say on Patreon for a reason you all know about! And if I did that I always messaged these patrons where I told them the reason why I deleted the comment! Since the beginning there have been some cases where patrons asked me why I deleted their comment although I didn't. They just wrote it again. It also happened once or twice to me either that I answered someone but somehow it wasn't posted. So, I don't know the explanation why this happens. If you scroll through the comments of my posts on Patreon you will find a lot of critical comments where people even bash and attack me! Why the hell should I leave all of these comments but delete some where someone is maybe offering help??? That makes no sense!

You really should finally stop with spreading these fake news here cause it really starts getting annoying! Plus stop tearing apart anything I say just because I'm more direct and not hiding myself behind some hypocrite mask!
There is no argument that you generate a high amounts of hate from people who are unsatisfied for one reason or another with you or your project. Even the blind man can see it.

Personal attacks, lies, name calling, threats ect are all bullshit. Haters gonna hate. Unfortunately you are going to have that. There is no "Safe Space" to avoid it all if you stay in this business. This is the internet... There are a lot of hate filled people out there. Many people have lashed out at you.

That being said, not all criticism is unfounded. When the four meters fill up to 100% and the game isn't out soon thereafter then a lot of people start to run out of patience. They grow more and more frustrated and angry the longer it takes for a release.

You need to learn to better differentiate "Legitimate Criticism" from a "Hater".

As a developer it would behoove you to be as understanding as possible of a legitimate gripe that some folks have right now with all of these delays. When engaging with players it makes the most sense to keep your temper in check or you just hand the haters more ammunition to fire shots right back at you. It becomes more difficult for your fans to stick for you when you lash out at the haters.

If you take anything away from this post take this away:

People don't want excuses. People want results.
 
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Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
You churn out an entire update in a month (and by that I mean you put 4 percentages in an image, of course, because we have no other way of telling what you've actually been doing) because you feel that your patrons will be completely satisfied with all the delays and epic animations that nobody asked for? :unsure:
 
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Creator of this game be like: "Oh yeah let me create a patreon page, take money from people, never deliver on my promises and then act surprised when people get angry(rightfully so)".

For previous years the excuse was: oh muh god guys I don't have a good pc and rendering is slow, give me time to finish this amazing project

Now he/she or whatever has a good pc and holy mother of god another savior, animations. "oh muh god guys I am creating godly animations for this project and they are so good and so amazing and so next gen and so unheard/unseen of and so fantastic even my new pc is rendering them slow so give me time to finish this amazing project".

Liar developers even if they are great at doing art are worse and much more pathetic than people who struggle with art but still stay true to their words and promises. I would rather support someone to improve over time who has dignity and respect for his/her OWN WORDS AND PROMISES rather than a liar who uses his/her skillset to scam people out of their money.

In other words this game is the savior of only one thing... If things get real bad for Star Citizen and they release the game in 2050 at least they will have an excuse to say "At least we released the game before L&P did"
 

SuperPerv96

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Apr 21, 2018
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Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
Ok everyone let not forget that this thread got recently clossed, bc of all the hate torwards L&P, so we should keep in mind that, also, there no reason to be agressive or insult him, first bc most of us in here, dont pay for the game, so what i think is if i dont pay for it i dont get the right to critize it, only patreons should and in the case that i would say something it should only be positive criticism, so let remind that next time when we want to adress something about the developer and how he handles the game, i think you dont get the right to called him a god damn milker if his not "milking" you.
L&P i think that you should be more careful on how you adress your patreons, since in some of the comments you do seems a little agresive, and i think you should consult with your patreons (after all they are your sponsors and "producers" of the game) about how some things in the game should proceed, in the first place do the Patreons want animations to be inplemented in the game? Do Patreons consider that the animations are something worth waiting for? if so should it be animation of every "sex" scene even if they are not main characters (As Aiden Jennifer and the other one)? or should it only be about the main characters? or should it only be about those involving Sofia? Are there any suggestion that the Patreon have that could possibly improve the game WITHOUT altering your vision/style, of storytelling? for example something that could speed up the development process
 
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krak0n

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Jan 8, 2022
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A Wife and Mother is by far the most erotic game out there.

The game designer "Lust & Passion" sets the bar for quality damn high.

Convincing story, perfect characters, without atomic bombs and a story that builds up slowly but very well. I'm really looking forward to the other "preciousnesses" of "Lust & Passion"

* English is not my native language, please excuse the mistakes.

[Edit] Almost one year later....

This game always looks nice but....there is no erotic any more, weird boring story now without any chance of sexual content for the next month... two stars now.

[Edit II, June 2021)

Almost 3 Years later....(holy shit)

Well there is not much left to say.

In the last 3 years many games have been created and finished that are way ahead of this game in terms of graphics, story and fap factor.

It's a shame that you can't assign minus points.
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April 2022- Sophia is still Virgin :v
 

Old Dog

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Jul 20, 2017
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I never deleted any comment on my site as long as they didn't contain any "inappropriate words" which you shouldn't say on Patreon for a reason you all know about! And if I did that I always messaged these patrons where I told them the reason why I deleted the comment! Since the beginning there have been some cases where patrons asked me why I deleted their comment although I didn't. They just wrote it again. It also happened once or twice to me either that I answered someone but somehow it wasn't posted. So, I don't know the explanation why this happens. If you scroll through the comments of my posts on Patreon you will find a lot of critical comments where people even bash and attack me! Why the hell should I leave all of these comments but delete some where someone is maybe offering help??? That makes no sense!

You really should finally stop with spreading these fake news here cause it really starts getting annoying! Plus stop tearing apart anything I say just because I'm more direct and not hiding myself behind some hypocrite mask!
If certain words are put in messages on his patron page then you do get a message saying 1 or two things.

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I was a patron for a number of years.
Just for you GingerSweetGirl

"Wow his ego is writing checks his body can't cash"
 
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Mar 6, 2021
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A Wife and Mother is by far the most erotic game out there.

The game designer "Lust & Passion" sets the bar for quality damn high.

Convincing story, perfect characters, without atomic bombs and a story that builds up slowly but very well. I'm really looking forward to the other "preciousnesses" of "Lust & Passion"

* English is not my native language, please excuse the mistakes.

[Edit] Almost one year later....

This game always looks nice but....there is no erotic any more, weird boring story now without any chance of sexual content for the next month... two stars now.

[Edit II, June 2021)

Almost 3 Years later....(holy shit)

Well there is not much left to say.

In the last 3 years many games have been created and finished that are way ahead of this game in terms of graphics, story and fap factor.

It's a shame that you can't assign minus points.
Unlike
Nov 28, 2017 Report
Likes:You, Vuneszczuk, palmtrees89 and 72 others


April 2022- Sophia is still Virgin :v
"""A Wife and Mother is by far the most erotic game out there.
Game designer "Lust & Passion" sets the standard for quality very high.
Convincing story, perfect characters, no atomic bombs and a story that builds slowly but very well. I'm really looking forward to the other "gems" from "Lust & Passion""""

When I got here, I was already gathering some stones to throw at you, I thought to myself: What is this guy talking about? What game is he talking about? Is he crazy?
Glad I read the rest.
 
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