sophpa

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Sep 18, 2021
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WOW, just when you think things couldn't get more underhanded we get this. This game could be a runaway success, but L&P's behavior and reputation are going to hold it back and eventually result in its abandonment.
L&P is douche what do we expect?
 

palmtrees89

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Jul 3, 2021
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I never deleted any comment on my site as long as they didn't contain any "inappropriate words" which you shouldn't say on Patreon for a reason you all know about! And if I did that I always messaged these patrons where I told them the reason why I deleted the comment! Since the beginning there have been some cases where patrons asked me why I deleted their comment although I didn't. They just wrote it again. It also happened once or twice to me either that I answered someone but somehow it wasn't posted. So, I don't know the explanation why this happens. If you scroll through the comments of my posts on Patreon you will find a lot of critical comments where people even bash and attack me! Why the hell should I leave all of these comments but delete some where someone is maybe offering help??? That makes no sense!

You really should finally stop with spreading these fake news here cause it really starts getting annoying! Plus stop tearing apart anything I say just because I'm more direct and not hiding myself behind some hypocrite mask!
Why am I not surprised that you're here trying to blame some non-existent bug on Patreon for deleting a post that literally exposes your untruths about the time required to make these animations? Kinda funny that a dude who apparently is a professional when it comes to creating animations gets a post deleted that's proving your previous statements to be completely wrong, huh? Someone criticizing or "bashing" you on Patreon won't really damage your reputation. Someone who is exposing questionable methods and untrue statements on the other hand certainly does that, which is exactly why you deleted his comments.

What you're doing has nothing to do with being direct. It's straight up unprofessional and shows what kind of person you are.
 
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ashitanojoe

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Oct 20, 2019
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I never deleted any comment on my site as long as they didn't contain any "inappropriate words" which you shouldn't say on...
I understand that you prioritize quality over everything else, but if improving quality means more development time, you should compensate hiring more personal, so, the development don't get compromised. The patrons and players want to see the story get finished someday, but the only one who seems to don't care about that is yourself.
 

Lust&Passion

Member
Game Developer
Oct 22, 2017
175
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Why am I not surprised that you're here trying to blame some non-existent bug on Patreon for deleting a post that literally exposes your untruths about the time required to make these animations? Kinda funny that a dude who apparently is a professional when it comes to creating animations gets a post deleted that's proving your previous statements to be completely wrong, huh?

What you're doing has nothing to do with being direct. It's straight up unprofessional and shows what kind of person you are.
LOL you believe just some random patron without any doubt just because he says he's a pro and that I deleted his comment! Awesome. But someone who's in this business since 4 years and himself is working on it, is lying of course! There are hundreds of critical and harsh posts on my site. Please explain me the logic why I left those there then!

The only lies which are spreaded are yours here!
 

palmtrees89

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Jul 3, 2021
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LOL you believe just some random patron without any doubt just because he says he's a pro and that I deleted his comment! Awesome. But someone who's in this business since 4 years and himself is working on it, is lying of course! There are hundreds of critical and harsh posts on my site. Please explain me the logic why I left those there then!

The only lies which are spreaded are yours here!
I just edited my previous post explaining why you'd do that.

Also, who is your professional animator? Mind sharing that information?

Edit: By the way, I'm not just calling you out on lies for no reason. You might wanna re-read your own Patreon posts and comments from the past 5+ months for a start.

Edit2: The one guy on your Patreon has nothing to do with my opinion on the current situation regarding your animations either. I've been saying it for weeks, and what I'm saying is based off other sources and professional artists creating animations on an even higher level in much less time compared to you and your helper, if the dude even exists.
 
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Lust&Passion

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Game Developer
Oct 22, 2017
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Always on the defensive, man I don't feel any pleasure seeing L&P crumbling before my eyes, my advice is that he should come clean and said: "Guys I fuck it up with the animations and I also wants to apologize for all the mountain of lies I spread during all this time, I learn my lesson and I will do better"

You see L&P is not that difficult
Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
 

Reinnn

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Apr 3, 2022
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Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
Yeah yeah we get it L&P, I think it's better if you spend your time for the game development instead being here. Time is precious.

I know you always watch this thread in silence but you can't stand it this time. But come on man, we've been through this so many times. Just focus developing the game. TIME IS PRECIOUS
 

skullpheonix

Newbie
Apr 10, 2020
16
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LOL you believe just some random patron without any doubt just because he says he's a pro and that I deleted his comment! Awesome. But someone who's in this business since 4 years and himself is working on it, is lying of course! There are hundreds of critical and harsh posts on my site. Please explain me the logic why I left those there then!

The only lies which are spreaded are yours here!
At this point, I would definitely believe a random patron than you. And you are earning enough to hire a render farm to render out your animations. It all seems too gimmicky.
 

deleted3121331

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Mar 13, 2022
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At this point, I would definitely believe a random patron than you. And you are earning enough to hire a render farm to render out your animations. It all seems too gimmicky.
A render farm won't help him, his computer is able to render the scenes by itself easily. The render farm does not create scenes.

Here, have some jpeg peace vibe.
 

Talcum Powder

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Feb 14, 2018
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I never deleted any comment on my site as long as they didn't contain any "inappropriate words" which you shouldn't say on Patreon for a reason you all know about! And if I did that I always messaged these patrons where I told them the reason why I deleted the comment! Since the beginning there have been some cases where patrons asked me why I deleted their comment although I didn't. They just wrote it again. It also happened once or twice to me either that I answered someone but somehow it wasn't posted. So, I don't know the explanation why this happens. If you scroll through the comments of my posts on Patreon you will find a lot of critical comments where people even bash and attack me! Why the hell should I leave all of these comments but delete some where someone is maybe offering help??? That makes no sense!

You really should finally stop with spreading these fake news here cause it really starts getting annoying! Plus stop tearing apart anything I say just because I'm more direct and not hiding myself behind some hypocrite mask!
Wait a second - hang on. When you say "inapproriate words which you shoudlnt't say on Patreon" - I assume you mean the only reason you delete Patreon posts is because they reference AWAM or character relationships directly, which is completely understandable. A clarification would be, um, helpful.
 

abram1

Member
May 24, 2020
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Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
The issue is not that you're supposedly lying, but total miscommunication between you and your audience. Folks are confused and frustrated with never ending delays, period.

It's obvious that you look through this thread time to time by checking its pulse. Which is a good sign, AWAM is your baby and every critical notion about it is pretty tough to swallow. If you have time to answer to your supporters on Patreon and via e-mails, doing the same thing over here, like you've done it previously when you needed promotion of the game, will only solidify overall positive perception towards you. Mere example: instead of posting next "hot stuff" out there, do it here yourself. Not all the time, but occasionally. You'll notice how the reaction tilts in your favor.

I understand you're trying to up the quality to the new heights and in the long run the current obstacles gonna speed the development, as animations on this level are unprecedented for AWAM.

C'mon, pal, you've created the most popular game with female protagonist, you deserve respect from the fans, not hate. But it's a two-way road. Humility is a virtue. We don't want your creation to collapse, help us help you.
 

maybes4

Active Member
Dec 5, 2017
911
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Come on guys, maybe the LP's helper is just a newbie, not a professional animator. That explains the long time it takes.
So if my theory is true, then LP is not a liar, only he hired the wrong guy.
BTW, i thought the dev never cares us, but it turned out he does care.
P/S: pls don't call me LP's simp for protecting him. He has no big ass.
 

Lederzar

Member
Mar 5, 2020
479
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Please tell me where I lied. All of the tiers promises I fulfilled! The animations were the last ones! And 0.160 I finished within a month! And I told people a couple of times precisely why it took the time it took for 0.155. I've been always honest and direct on my Patreon site and always informed people about things going on. Even about my surgery although it's actually no ones business! If you don't believe my posts, it's your problem! Not mine!
Here I leave you some of your latest I will not say lies so as not to offend anyone, rather I will use the term " total miscommunication between you and your audience ", as I said I do not like this situation at all, you have created a magnificent VN but you are destroying at a fast pace with your decisions.

Rectify is wise

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CSK92

Member
Sep 24, 2017
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L&P. Lets move forward Brother. My favorite VN going and we are fans that want to see you and your game succeed, but for some reason you cant see what is happening and thus the criticism. Obliviously you care or you wouldn't be here on the attack. How about giving up some information about why all the delays and details about what's next to improve, plus actually making this happen. You might bitch and moan about this being pirate site, but I wouldn't have found your game without it and sent plenty $$ to you over the years to support. Fairly certain more than a few posting here have also.
 
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