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hzjujk

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Oh, come on people! Name me one damn porn game or porn movie that has anything to do with realism. Every actor and every situation is exaggerated. It starts with the fact that the women and girls of the body measurements are always from a model catalog and with waists that are even more exaggerated. That means, if you complain about the lack of realism, you have to call not only for a cross against L&P, but against the whole porn industry. And, let's not kid ourselves, if we won and hard realism entered such productions, the porn industry would be boring as hell.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
 

ancienregimele

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Oh, come on people! Name me one damn porn game or porn movie that has anything to do with realism. Every actor and every situation is exaggerated. It starts with the fact that the women and girls of the body measurements are always from a model catalog and with waists that are even more exaggerated. That means, if you complain about the lack of realism, you have to call not only for a cross against L&P, but against the whole porn industry. And, let's not kid ourselves, if we won and hard realism entered such productions, the porn industry would be boring as hell.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
Realism was an avowed aim of AWAM from day 1 & there was absolutely no need whatsoever to dilute the level that was achieved in the early days. Attempting a sense of realism was one of the aspects of L&P's production that made it a cut above the average. This veneer of realism was not that of a soap opera, or in the "kitchen sink drama" style but was rather along the lines of the 'realistic' weathering on vehicles in Star Wars films, where strange fictional stuff might be happening on distant worlds but at least it looks believable. That's not boring IMO. What is excruciatingly boring is the endless parade of nymphos, bimbos, simple one-track minded horny sons lusting after their own mothers, the beach-ball smuggling "Moms" themselves, racial stereotypes, e.g. how many more BBCs?, hideously bad bosses, horse-cocks & 'inner thoughts' along the lines of, "why does this feel so good, when I know it's so wrong?" There are many more choice standard "items" but suffice to say, no wonder I've deleted all but 2 or 3 3D porn games.

3D Porn today has descended into an unimaginative abyss where characters have become stereotyped & exaggerated. They even tend to follow certain repetitive patterns of behaviour, so much so that some could be interchangeable between games, without any appreciable hiccup. Sadly, by now, it seems this is what 'the public' expects & on occasion, even demands, because it's familiar & probably comforting in some odd way. I would contend that there are many members of 'the public' who do not require these things. There are others amongst 'the public', like me, who would count it fortunate if they never saw any more. Repetitiveness was another good reason to delete numerous games. It's all about consumer, (even pirate consumer) choice.

AWAM arrived in this melee like an innovative example of "The New." It began to show what could be achieved in the 3D porn genre, if a Dev was prepared to raise his game. Quality of renders was outstanding & the writing ranged between acceptable & good. Even stock 3D porn characters were made more interesting & engaging. Patricia was/is a case in point, being more than just another 'too sexy' Aunt figure but someone with her own personality & back-story. This approach was apparent for most of the main actors. People cared about the characters & their stories/routes. Fans became involved with the VN. Indeed, 'the future looked bright, the future looked AWAM.'

So, what the hell happened? We all think we know. What I think I know would take another too long post & would be a marginally bigger waste of time than my above comments.
 
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armion82

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Ya, as i agree with it. I too say that Sophia might give a handjob or blowjob, but i don't see Sophia having full sex with a man on PD 16.
Logically from a game point of view. The first sex scene out of marriage has to be the Wife Swap. If Sophia cheats and ahs complete sex before that, then the swap scene will loose any excitement as that sex scene happens in Liam's presence. The wife Swap will happen at a later date. Since in the last scene with Cathy they to take your time and then answer to Sophia and Liam.
Must be full sex scenes.
Otherwise he definitely will use other words.And won't even mention other sexual activities as HJ,BJ,TJ.
Let's not forget he promised we will get hetero sex scenes before day 20.
And accoridng to his plan PD 16 is the only possibility.
Of course the way he was using the words(not saying Sophia and instead important character) imply that at least one of the scenes is maybe not with Sophia aka Ellie/Logan.Or If he wants to finish the route-Amber/Dylan.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Oh, come on people! Name me one damn porn game or porn movie that has anything to do with realism. Every actor and every situation is exaggerated. It starts with the fact that the women and girls of the body measurements are always from a model catalog and with waists that are even more exaggerated. That means, if you complain about the lack of realism, you have to call not only for a cross against L&P, but against the whole porn industry. And, let's not kid ourselves, if we won and hard realism entered such productions, the porn industry would be boring as hell.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
How many porn movies claim to have realism though? It's only that "realism" and "class" are two of the stated claims of the game. One of the first games I played from this forum was Timestamps, because I like time-travel stories. Since time-travel is, last I checked only theoretical, it made no claims to realism. I didn't get far enough into the game to confirm, but it starts to imply as the game unfolds that the MC might be his own father. Which is genetically impossible.

DDoS is similar. We just got confirmation recently that the MC is being influenced by a demon. So you'll never get me complaining that the game is realistic like I do with AWAM.
 

hmc15

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In my opinion, this scene was not needed at all because it did not contribute anything to the plot.
As far as I understand the gang scene with Sophia was for Aiden's followers and would they like it while waiting for task 5 in 5 years?
When us task 5?
 

Sabertooth__

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Oh, come on people! Name me one damn porn game or porn movie that has anything to do with realism. Every actor and every situation is exaggerated. It starts with the fact that the women and girls of the body measurements are always from a model catalog and with waists that are even more exaggerated. That means, if you complain about the lack of realism, you have to call not only for a cross against L&P, but against the whole porn industry. And, let's not kid ourselves, if we won and hard realism entered such productions, the porn industry would be boring as hell.
This is an open forum in which everyone can repeatedly say his opinion. Even if you can not follow the arguments or do not want to follow. Who does not like it can certainly set up a closed discussion channel on Discord in which only invited guests can come.
As for Sabertooth_, he is also just a member here in this forum what his opinion, emphatically, represents. One can follow his argumentation or reject it. What makes Sabertooth_ in my opinion again and again to the target is that he simply always tries to have the last word. (Forgive Sabertooth_, but that's how I see it). Discussions with him can often only be ended by not replying to his last post or by replying with an icon. But that does not mean that his opinions, which he represents are wrong or inappropriate.
What i generally don't like is the idea that most people thing realism is objective. Just because they have a certain opinion of it, it is the truth. If i ever say things here i make it point to make it clear it is a personal opinion or just a possibility not a 100% guarantee. Words like maybe, in my opinion, could be etc.
What is real or can be real varies with each person's perspective and life experiences. Like Aiden's threats seem very real to me because at his age, we did have students bring guys even to the homes of the person they want to beat up and leave. Hospitalize them etc. It is not unheard of for me. I have seen it. For some it is totally unrealistic. I have no issues with someone feeling something is unrealistic. But just because something doesn't align with your definition of realism you can't berate the game or the scene for it objectively. "suggest" the opinion not present is as fact.
 

Alley_Cat

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How is this game so popular here despite having barely any sexual content? Its just blue balling for 5 years now
I've always tended to believe it's not so much what content is in the game right now, but what content we've been lead to believe will be in the future. What attracted me personally to the game initially was that it showed so much potential, especially since I had grown bored with many of the male protag games available when I first started playing.

To have control over a beautiful, intelligent woman has a certain appeal. Especially one as prudish as Sophia is in the beginning. And for many of us, corrupting her in the various ways available is too good to resist. Hence the popularity of the Filthy route.
 
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