VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[madhusudhansmd611]

What is the point of whole update without Sophia? I assume we all follow/love this game because of Sophia.

I love this game because of Sophia, Dylan, Ellie and Patricia. And I want to continue this game.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Please, don't do it. If you have something to say - say it; make your point, trade arguments.

I love this game because of Sophia, Dylan, Ellie and Patricia. And I want to continue this game.

We all do. The problem is not the game itself, the problem is its author. If he was mature enough to build a team and/or improve his time and resources management, I'm sure most of us would welcome more storylines. Unfortunately, he is not and many of us see a direct correlation between adding more side events and further decline in content delivery. Does that make sense now?

 

[Dan5k74]

Progress Report Ver. 0.195.

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Wow, a new start...
Ready Set Go! Come on "Animations", run!

Speaking of animations, I don't know if anyone else has already told you about it, but it seems that there is a possibility that L&P will add (in an unspecified future) some animations to v.0.190.

Spoiler: Animations

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[XaGnard]

That is my biggest criticism: the focus of some of the updates.

Would i like the updates to be quicker? Of course.

Especially since he makes them smaller and smaller slices of each playable day, now down to only a single event. (One could even argue the last event was broken up into *two* updates.)

But, i'm a filthy pirate, so im getting what i paid for, so, meh.

No, my biggest criticism, largely because of the slow update, is the bullshit filler content he spends an entire update on. This isnt "A Son and Brother", so he shouldnt be wasting an entire update, especially if takes him 3months or whatever, going over Dylan's side story shit if Sophia is not involved.

Looking at the gallery for part 2, there are 2 wasted updates and 1 partially.

'Jennifer Blackmailed' I say partially because at least Sophia was looking in, so she was influenced by the event, even if not directly involved.

But 'The Graduate' and 'Laundromat Story'? Neither one had anything to do with Sophia.

If L&P is looking to trim the fat on his story, while removing minor side characters is one approach, not going off in the weeds and wasting an entire update on someone that isnt Sophia should be first on the list.

The story has always focused on Sophia in her role as wife and mother. This does not mean, however, that all scenes must be shown only from Sophia's perspective. On the contrary, many of the events that are definitely necessary to tell the story cannot be depicted from Sophia's perspective. An example of this are certainly the voyeur scenes where pratically only Dylan's perspective is possible, since Sophia is not yet allowed to know anything about it. Honestly, so far, every time L&P has told the story from Dylan's perspective, it has paid off.

I think AWAM's problem is more the too many side stories that deviate from the stories concerning Dylan, Ellie and Liam in "Sophia a Wife and Mother". There are just too many mobsters in the game (Aiden is the most unbelievable vilen i have ever seen), and especially all the side jobs have zero connection to the rest of the story. These are elements that could well be left out in order to have more time to really tell the main story, including Dylan, Ellie and Liam.

 

[XaGnard]

This PD only really needed to be the class, the Sam event, then a Dylan event in the evening. The other 8-odd events were a waste.

I hope that the event with Dylan/Ellie will be maybe even the best for this PD. There is so much potential here.

Aiden and the side jobs are really elements that should be deleted from AWAM, in my opinion. The whole thing is just not connected enough to the actual main story about Sophia in her role as wife and mother.

 

[sophpa]

So it seems that i should take a vacation till december, when will be MORE IMPORTANT UPDATE

 

[dkatryl]

The story has always focused on Sophia in her role as wife and mother. This does not mean, however, that all scenes must be shown only from Sophia's perspective. On the contrary, many of the events that are definitely necessary to tell the story cannot be depicted from Sophia's perspective. An example of this are certainly the voyeur scenes where pratically only Dylan's perspective is possible, since Sophia is not yet allowed to know anything about it. Honestly, so far, every time L&P has told the story from Dylan's perspective, it has paid off.

I think AWAM's problem is more the too many side stories that deviate from the stories concerning Dylan, Ellie and Liam in "Sophia a Wife and Mother". There are just too many mobsters in the game (Aiden is the most unbelievable vilen i have ever seen), and especially all the side jobs have zero connection to the rest of the story. These are elements that could well be left out in order to have more time to really tell the main story, including Dylan, Ellie and Liam.

We dont need to see Dylan's descent into debauchery.

He's a horny teenage boy in a porn game. Self explanatory.

If the scene does not have a reason for Sophia to make a choice and be influenced, it is a wasted scene by an author that takes months for Sophia to do something as trivial as get her hair done.

If L&P's output was higher, then sure, add in filler. But as it is, trim it down.

Also, i never said anything about perspective. The two examples i called out didnt even have Sophia in them.

That is the problem.

 

[XaGnard]

We dont need to see Dylan's descent into debauchery.

He's a horny teenage boy in a porn game. Self explanatory.

If the scene does not have a reason for Sophia to make a choice and be influenced, it is a wasted scene by an author that takes months for Sophia to do something as trivial as get her hair done.

If L&P's output was higher, then sure, add in filler. But as it is, trim it down.

Also, i never said anything about perspective. The two examples i called out didnt even have Sophia in them.

That is the problem.

Sorry, but I'm convinced that you're wrong.

First of all, this is not a game about Sophia, but about Sophia as "A wife and mother". Of course, such a game is also about a teenage boy who has to make his experiences. Just as it is about the fact that Ellie will also have her experiences. If you don't like the story, you should realize that no one is forcing you to play this game.

I, at least, am looking forward to the event between Dylan and Ellie the most in this PD. I think the story has great potential. The connection with Sophia is more than clear here, since she is the mother of the two. There is a good chance that this will have an effect on her later, which gives the story depth and makes it much more possible than if it had simply been left out.

BTW, of course it would be good for AWAM if L&P would reduce the number of stories. But in this case, the side jobs, and all the gangster stories (including Aiden and his stupid tasks) should be removed. These are far too little connected to the theme of Sophia as wife and mother and are therefore unnecessary.

 

[whetevr]

where dowloand game?

 

[Galaktur]

Sorry, but I'm convinced that you're wrong.

First of all, this is not a game about Sophia, but about Sophia as "A wife and mother". Of course, such a game is also about a teenage boy who has to make his experiences. Just as it is about the fact that Ellie will also have her experiences. If you don't like the story, you should realize that no one is forcing you to play this game.

I, at least, am looking forward to the event between Dylan and Ellie the most in this PD. I think the story has great potential. The connection with Sophia is more than clear here, since she is the mother of the two. There is a good chance that this will have an effect on her later, which gives the story depth and makes it much more possible than if it had simply been left out.

BTW, of course it would be good for AWAM if L&P would reduce the number of stories. But in this case, the side jobs, and all the gangster stories (including Aiden and his stupid tasks) should be removed. These are far too little connected to the theme of Sophia as wife and mother and are therefore unnecessary.

This is a story about the corruption of Sofia as a wife and the corruption of Sofia as a mother, which in general means the story of the corruption of Sofia. This is not a story about Dylan, he's a secondary character.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

where dowloand game?

 

[Galaktur]

Please don't take it personally.
I'm not serious either, I just say what I see, as I said, I'm a realist.
But more and more people are losing control here.
We've only just had an update and we're already being criticized in all directions.

There are maybe four or five people here who can really analyze and make suggestions and know every inch and every word of this game, the rest are just criticizing.
You can discuss the development of the game or the quality or the renderings about the length of the breaks.
But we've gotten to the point where we're talking about whether he can go on vacation or not, whether he's a woman or a man and what he earns and whether he has another job or whether we should pay for it or not. What's next? How many times is he allowed to go to the toilet or is he still allowed to breathe?
I see that the development of the thread is becoming primitive. It's just a game and a lot of people waste their time telling L&P that he's a donkey but we act like a dissatisfied chicken or like an old monkey.
And then why do I write so much? I don't pay for L&P but the game has more good than bad so the thread should be more good than bad. We want L&P to get better? Then we also have to get better.

People have the right to demand results. they pay money for it. This is not a humanitarian activity. If the girl who creates the game wants to do as she wants, as it is convenient for her and in any convenient time, then let her do it for her money. Then no one will be able to tell her anything.

 

[VladTepesph]

So far I am very happy with the update that Dylan is making a progress however I think Sam is still ahead of him which shouldn't be. Hopefully Sam will be put to sideline...Sophia is Dylan's

 

[Wbwbd85]

Sorry, but I'm convinced that you're wrong.

First of all, this is not a game about Sophia, but about Sophia as "A wife and mother". Of course, such a game is also about a teenage boy who has to make his experiences. Just as it is about the fact that Ellie will also have her experiences. If you don't like the story, you should realize that no one is forcing you to play this game.

I, at least, am looking forward to the event between Dylan and Ellie the most in this PD. I think the story has great potential. The connection with Sophia is more than clear here, since she is the mother of the two. There is a good chance that this will have an effect on her later, which gives the story depth and makes it much more possible than if it had simply been left out.

BTW, of course it would be good for AWAM if L&P would reduce the number of stories. But in this case, the side jobs, and all the gangster stories (including Aiden and his stupid tasks) should be removed. These are far too little connected to the theme of Sophia as wife and mother and are therefore unnecessary.

Sorry did you really just say the game isn't about Sophia but her role as a wife and mother? Yes the game is about Sophia and her role and the decisions she makes as a wife and a mother!! The title says nothing about a family's perspective. It's only about Sophia.

 

[Galaktur]

Sorry did you really just say the game isn't about Sophia but her role as a wife and mother? Yes the game is about Sophia and her role and the decisions she makes as a wife and a mother!! The title says nothing about a family's perspective. It's only about Sophia.

He has Sofia, it's something separate from wife and mother))) He's from an alternate universe)))

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

People have the right to demand results. they pay money for it. This is not a humanitarian activity. If the BOY who creates the game wants to do as she wants, as it is convenient for HIM and in any convenient time, then let HIM do it for her money. Then no one will be able to tell her anything.

fixed

 

[XaGnard]

This is a story about the corruption of Sofia as a wife and the corruption of Sofia as a mother, which in general means the story of the corruption of Sofia. This is not a story about Dylan, he's a secondary character.

Have you even played the game? Sorry, but you must have really missed the point when you write something like this here.

The game is clearly about Spohia as "A Wife and Mother". There is a reason why the roles of Sophia as a wife and mother and not just Sophia is in the title. This alone gives the characters Dylan, Ellie and Liam more weight than any other characters, what you could also see well from the beginning. Just remember the scene in the introduction, with Dylan sitting on Sophia's legs in the car with a view of Ellie's cleavage, and the argument arising from it. Also, for one more example, Sam and Aiden in the story only makes sense because of Dylan being there. Without him, all this would go down to nothing.

Sorry, but I have to tell you that you are clearly wrong. Dylan and Ellie are clearly important enough to give them room for their own development. Even more, ideally this development should over time have an impact on Sophia, who is the mother of the two. That is what makes good storytelling. If AWAM is just an elaboration of events with Sophia, in which the other characters are empty shells, AWAM would be flat. A good story needs a few contemporary sidechraters and in AWAM this are clearly her core family. I don't know why this is a problem for you, but this is clearly how the game is set up.

 

[XaGnard]

Sorry did you really just say the game isn't about Sophia but her role as a wife and mother? Yes the game is about Sophia and her role and the decisions she makes as a wife and a mother!! The title says nothing about a family's perspective. It's only about Sophia.

What I am saying is that this game is not just about Sophia. From the beginning, Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother" was the central element.

That's why I think that if you're going to leave something out, which I think is a good idea in itself, it should be, for example, the side jobs, which have virtually zero connection to the rest of the story.

 

[Galaktur]

Have you even played the game? Sorry, but you must have really missed the point when you write something like this here.

The game is clearly about Spohia as "A Wife and Mother". There is a reason why the roles of Sophia as a wife and mother and not just Sophia is in the title. This alone gives the characters Dylan, Ellie and Liam more weight than any other characters, what you could also see well from the beginning. Just remember the scene in the introduction, with Dylan sitting on Sophia's legs in the car with a view of Ellie's cleavage, and the argument arising from it. Also, for one more example, Sam and Aiden in the story only makes sense because of Dylan being there. Without him, all this would go down to nothing.

Sorry, but I have to tell you that you are clearly wrong. Dylan and Ellie are clearly important enough to give them room for their own development. Even more, ideally this development should over time have an impact on Sophia, who is the mother of the two. That is what makes good storytelling. If AWAM is just an elaboration of events with Sophia, in which the other characters are empty shells, AWAM would be flat. A good story needs a few contemporary sidechraters and in AWAM this are clearly her core family. I don't know why this is a problem for you, but this is clearly how the game is set up.

How are you with logic? Wife and mother are inseparable from Sofia. Any direction, bend, perversion, sanctity, whatever - it's all Sofia. All other characters are secondary.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

So far I am very happy with the update that Dylan is making a progress however I think Sam is still ahead of him which shouldn't be. Hopefully Sam will be put to sideline...Sophia is Dylan's

Interesting... How do you define "ahead" in this case?