VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.211] [Lust & Passion]

[dkatryl]

What I am saying is that this game is not just about Sophia. From the beginning, Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother" was the central element.

That's why I think that if you're going to leave something out, which I think is a good idea in itself, it should be, for example, the side jobs, which have virtually zero connection to the rest of the story.

Yes, it is called "A Wife and Mother", which means it should always focus on Sophia.

For what it's worth, notice it doesnt have the male protagonist or multiple protagonist tags?

You want to see the exploits of Dylan's solo adventure, sans Sophia?

That should be in a DLC called "A Son and Brother".

Again, if L&P wasnt infamously slow in development, a little filler that wasnt about Sophia is fine. But that aint the case here.

 

[XaGnard]

Yes, it is called "A Wife and Mother", which means it should always focus on Sophia.

For what it's worth, notice it doesnt have the male protagonist or multiple protagonist tags?

You want to see the exploits of Dylan's solo adventure, sans Sophia?

That should be in a DLC called "A Son and Brother".

Again, if L&P wasnt infamously slow in development, a little filler that wasnt about Sophia is fine. But that aint the case here.

The game is clearly about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother" which of course is told mainly from Sophia's perspective. But nowhere does it state that this is exclusively the case. Even the contrary, if you consider what L&P write about AWAM in the game about page:

... Playing as a MILF just brings an approach wind into the adult game world! Furthermore I'm thinking about maybe switching the playable character to a male one a few time later on and letting him make decisions! ...

I think the whole thing is pretty clear and fits well with how L&P gave Dylan and once Liam decisions. Even more, so far all the scenes with Dylan were ultimately a win for the game. I, at least, am looking forward to some more action between Dylan and Ellie.

 

[Zacko man]

We dont need to see Dylan's descent into debauchery.

He's a horny teenage boy in a porn game. Self explanatory.

If the scene does not have a reason for Sophia to make a choice and be influenced, it is a wasted scene by an author that takes months for Sophia to do something as trivial as get her hair done.

If L&P's output was higher, then sure, add in filler. But as it is, trim it down.

Also, i never said anything about perspective. The two examples i called out didnt even have Sophia in them.

That is the problem.

Yes, it is called "A Wife and Mother", which means it should always focus on Sophia.

For what it's worth, notice it doesnt have the male protagonist or multiple protagonist tags?

You want to see the exploits of Dylan's solo adventure, sans Sophia?

That should be in a DLC called "A Son and Brother".

Again, if L&P wasnt infamously slow in development, a little filler that wasnt about Sophia is fine. But that aint the case here.

These guys, no comments!

 

[armion82]

A version without Sophia,I didn't expect anything from that, I just hoped it would be shorter.

Last time someone used same words the update go twice bigger.

 

[Zacko man]

I'm looking forward to seeing some romantic action between Dylan and Ellie. I think L&P would write a good romantic story without any sex-ed in this Dylan/Ellie storyline.

 

[Wbwbd85]

What I am saying is that this game is not just about Sophia. From the beginning, Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother" was the central element.

That's why I think that if you're going to leave something out, which I think is a good idea in itself, it should be, for example, the side jobs, which have virtually zero connection to the rest of the story.

I agree lp should cut the side Jobs.

 

[Prayforme]

I think a lot of us will die before we know the end of Sophia's adventures. LP and Stoper, those two villains are definitely in cahoots

 

[Enes51344]

Hello

 

[Galaktur]

I agree lp should cut the side Jobs.

Maybe she works part-time in a strip bar)))

 

[Galaktur]

I think a lot of us will die before we know the end of Sophia's adventures. LP and Stoper, those two villains are definitely in cahoots

Humanity will die out faster)))

 

[Wbwbd85]

Maybe she works part-time in a strip bar)))

Let's get Sophia corrupted with one person first then we can move on to side quest.

 

[Galaktur]

Let's get Sophia corrupted with one person first then we can move on to side quest.

I didn't write about Sofia))) About the girl who makes this game))))

 

[none300]

I hope the next update will be super fast and skippable. Waiting for Sophia next year seems like..

 

[Gukl]

damn there is an animation bar see you next year!

 

[chinesewarrior]

How many backers the Dev have that he did nothing but milking people since 2017 ? 7 years without any real content (MC having sex with other that her husband) means onyl explanation is that he has some "supporter" income without any interruption.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

How many backers the Dev have that he did nothing but milking people since 2017 ? 7 years without any real content (MC having sex with other that her husband) means onyl explanation is that he has some "supporter" income without any interruption.

It is pretty common that many patrons who pleaded smaller amounts don't even remember the fact and remain zombie pledgers for years.
Also, he has many worship-level patrons who will support him no matter how low he goes - even if he was constantly farting in their faces after having a ton of Swiss cheese. They'd say it's a breeze from the Alps and it helps to focus on work.

Yes, it is called "A Wife and Mother", which means it should always focus on Sophia.

That ship has sailed many moons ago, my friend...

I agree lp should cut the side Jobs.

This was his "smart" way to expand the fan base, so... won't happen.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

So far I am very happy with the update that Dylan is making a progress however I think Sam is still ahead of him which shouldn't be. Hopefully Sam will be put to sideline...Sophia is Dylan's

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I don't think it's a race at all where you can say one has an advantage over the other. Actually, I recognize the writing style where you create all the story's plot climaxes and in the final chapters bring everything to a crisis point. What I am betting on is all the key characters will be brought to the point where anyone will be the first to get Sophie's cookie. So, the only real questions that remain is who they are next and just how far are going to get before the developer moves onto the next in line. And I so hope I am dead wrong.

Now if I was writing the story, I would build in hints at something then drop a plot twist. There are a lot of possibilities left to work on. But the best way is to introduce causal content, as if they were side stories that further the main dirrection of the overall story.

Let's say there is an Ellie/Dylan ending. I wouldn't be so blunt as making a scene where it's obvious. Think back when Dylan helped Ellie with her PC or when they were talking on the swings. Sure, those two events say "maybe" an Ellie/Dylan connection down the road at this stage, but that whole story arch isn't ready to have them two together. How things could work to getting Ellie/Dylan closer would be another shower scene between Ellie and Sophia and they talk about men in general; Sophia could accidently mention just how good a boy Dylan is in such way that it gets Ellie to rethink how she sees Dylan. It'll take several small events to move Ellie/Dylan along. Those kind of plot twists work with any other combinations.

Still I hope there are just some out of the blue surprises along the way

 

[Wbwbd85]

Lp should of animated the Dylan dream of bending Sophia over the couch.

 

[Alley_Cat]

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I don't think it's a race at all where you can say one has an advantage over the other. Actually, I recognize the writing style where you create all the story's plot climaxes and in the final chapters bring everything to a crisis point. What I am betting on is all the key characters will be brought to the point where anyone will be the first to get Sophie's cookie. So, the only real questions that remain is who they are next and just how far are going to get before the developer moves onto the next in line. And I so hope I am dead wrong.

Now if I was writing the story, I would build in hints at something then drop a plot twist. There are a lot of possibilities left to work on. But the best way is to introduce causal content, as if they were side stories that further the main dirrection of the overall story.

Let's say there is an Ellie/Dylan ending. I wouldn't be so blunt as making a scene where it's obvious. Think back when Dylan helped Ellie with her PC or when they were talking on the swings. Sure, those two events say "maybe" an Ellie/Dylan connection down the road at this stage, but that whole story arch isn't ready to have them two together. How things could work to getting Ellie/Dylan closer would be another shower scene between Ellie and Sophia and they talk about men in general; Sophia could accidently mention just how good a boy Dylan is in such way that it gets Ellie to rethink how she sees Dylan. It'll take several small events to move Ellie/Dylan along. Those kind of plot twists work with any other combinations.

Still I hope there are just some out of the blue surprises along the way

We already know the next Ellie event isn't going to be a shower, and the bonus storyline is meant to finish by PD16, if not before, so there really aren't any opportunities for Ellie to rethink how she sees Dylan before the storyline finishes.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

We already know the next Ellie event isn't going to be a shower, and the bonus storyline is meant to finish by PD16, if not before, so there really aren't any opportunities for Ellie to rethink how she sees Dylan before the storyline finishes.

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I provided an example of a writing style and plot creation as well stating an observation and making a prediction. There was nothing to indicate where the actual story was going--just strategy in writing.

An off the wall prediction would be stating something so absurd as saying Patricia and Ellie would be the first lesbian scene--that kind of remark would need to be called out