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XaGnard

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So what I gather this isn't A Wife and mother anymore, but it's A Wife and mother and Dylan. o_O
It's just stupid to think that a story has to be told from only one perspective. Especially when you consider that L&P clearly mentioned the occasional change of perspective in his game description. Also, when you consider that this change of perspective already happened in the past, I don't understand where you want to see a change here.

I think many here should understand that AWAM is not just about Sophia, but about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother". It is quite normal that Dylan, Ellie and Liam take a more prominent position next to Sophia in this setting. At the latest, if something happens between Dylan and Ellie, it will certainly have an effect on Sophia. Why one should omit such a game element is honestly a mystery to me.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this update. It's not clear yet if L&P will make something out of it, but the potential is huge. I, at least, find a game with implications better than a game in which countless independent events are simply lined up next to each other.
 

Sagf

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So this will be the first update without Sophia, no Sophia, so far the title for this master piece creation is a wife and mother, so no scenes with her this time, btw 2 Qs, when is hot Amber's next event and how can we get rid of Liam maybe in the future?
 

Sagf

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My wish...
In this upcoming update, Dylan decides to goes to the party with Sophia. He feels bad to have left Sophia at home lonely so he offers her to go with him. We will have another option to choose and finally Sophia decides to go with him.

Sophia will have a lot of attention from the hungry guys at the party and Dylan's test will come up (cuck path.)

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It's a shame that Sophia would not be seen on the coming update!
Maybe she will, at least a little bit when she talks to him about the Taboo break
 

ancienregimele

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So what I gather this isn't A Wife and mother anymore, but it's A Wife and mother and Dylan. o_O
Yes, it's a 'A Wife & Her Son,' AWAHS, or as I think of it now, DATBO, 'Dylan And The Bloated One,' or DATMJ, 'Dylan And The Milk Jugs...(ref. L&P). It's been publicly stated, by the Dev, that Dylan's appearances will be brought up to par with Sophia's, because apparently there's not enough of him so far. He's been an official "2nd MC" for several years, (which is a contradiction in terms), yet there's still no male protagonist tag, nor does the promo blurb make clear that this game is as much about the adventures of a teenage virgin schoolboy, as it is about his mother. All we can be certain of is that Dylan can never be "a wife & mother," unless he undergoes some drastic & painful surgery. He can certainly dominate the whole game, as he's doing at present. AWAM is so well-known that it would be detrimental for the Dev to retitle the game officially.

Originally it was intended that Liam would feature more prominently & that his POV would be in the nature of a dual game with his wife. His predictable unpopularity caused this plan to be dropped. Predictable, because teenage oedipal M/S incest stories usually contain a son who wants to replace his father, even to the extent of becoming a father himself, to his own brother/son, or sister/daughter. Genetic issues are not usually a problem because the fantasy finishes before the mother goes into labour. Fans don't want a hero of the story to be burdened with responsibilities, especially those that are in no sense erotic. (That's too much like RL, especially if consanguinity were to result in birth defects. That's nobody's idea of good or even average porn).

Dylan's popularity in polls must have been at least one reason for the Dev to re-interpret AWAM. ("It's where the market is"). As I've said before, however, even though Dylan's fans form the biggest voting bloc amongst the paying Patrons, (i.e. those fans who matter) doesn't mean that a majority of fans want him to take over. L&P uses the "First past the post" system in polls but the fact that Patrons have more than one vote complicates the outcome.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about broadening a story to contain activities & POVs of other characters. When AWAM started & for the first couple of years, so many people were introduced, it seemed that it wouldn't be constrained by the standard, slightly claustrophobic, incest-driven family of 3D games but this was an illusion. It was easier to bring in new characters than it was to write a coherent story. Dylan's & other character's POVs, along with their stories, would, IMO, be more successful if the roll-out was faster & wasn't restricted by the event-based update strait-jacket.
 
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You know. I have been an avid fan of this game and defended L&P at every turn but I have become dissolutioned with this game. It really has gone down hill. Too much faff. Too much branching stories to keep track of. Too many locked off story. Too long development. No communication. I feel like walking tbh I don't want to but L&P is stretching this game to it's thinnest limits.

Dessert for Daughter was completed in less time than this has and that had 20 parts and thousands of lines of dialogue. I want to keep supporting it but I've had enough of the long delays and the small updates that go no where.
that's my little grasshopper!!! I said it once and I'll say it again, L&P is playing with your money and doesn't know how to take advantage of it. It's "very stupid." The moment that boy speeds things up will be when he starts losing SPONSORS!!! otherwise he will continue making fun of you!!!!
 

ancienregimele

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Because L$P won’t let him have a sex scene for about 10 or more years
Also, we must not forget, that art materials are more effective than an ice cold shower, when it comes to destroying sexual desire. If only they could be reduced to tablet form they'd be marketed as the best contraceptive, as in "Make Your Lust & Passion Disappear in a Nanosecond."
 

XaGnard

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Yes, it's a 'A Wife & Her Son,' AWAHS, or as I think of it now, DATBO, 'Dylan And The Bloated One,' or DATMJ, 'Dylan And The Milk Jugs...(ref. L&P). It's been publicly stated, by the Dev, that Dylan's appearances will be brought up to par with Sophia's, because apparently there's not enough of him so far. He's been an official "2nd MC" for several years, (which is a contradiction in terms), yet there's still no male protagonist tag, nor does the promo blurb make clear that this game is as much about the adventures of a teenage virgin schoolboy, as it is about his mother. All we can be certain of is that Dylan can never be "a wife & mother," unless he undergoes some drastic & painful surgery. He can certainly dominate the whole game, as he's doing at present. AWAM is so well-known that it would be detrimental for the Dev to retitle the game officially.
First of all, I think some here should realize that AWAM is not a game about Sophia alone, but a game about Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother". Nowhere does this title specify that all scenes must be depicted from Sophia's perspective.

Telling a story from multiple perspectives is an often-used device. One example is maybe "The Godfather" were not all the scenes in this movie are told from just one perspective. Like in AWAM also in this movie it is not just about one charakter, but about the construct and dynamics in this family. The change of perspective is necessary to show the development of other characters and thus give depth to the story.

Originally it was intended that Liam would feature more prominently & that his POV would be in the nature of a dual game with his wife. His predictable unpopularity caused this plan to be dropped. Predictable, because teenage oedipal M/S incest stories usually contain a son who wants to replace his father, even to the extent of becoming a father himself, to his own brother/son, or sister/daughter. Genetic issues are not usually a problem because the fantasy finishes before the mother goes into labour. Fans don't want a hero of the story to be burdened with responsibilities, especially those that are in no sense erotic. (That's too much like RL, especially if consanguinity were to result in birth defects. That's nobody's idea of good or even average porn).
I think one of L&P's biggest mistakes was wasting time in the good wife path. Not because I dislike Liam as a character, or would like to see Dylan replace him, but because this path is too boring. In the current version of the game, Liam seems like an unnecessary appendage, which I think is a great pity.

I think that a little more liam in the game, apart from the good wife story, would have done quite well. At the latest, if he had noticed something of what was going on between Sophia/Ellie, Sophia/Dylan or Sophia/Sam.

Dylan's popularity in polls must have been at least one reason for the Dev to re-interpret AWAM. ("It's where the market is"). As I've said before, however, even though Dylan's fans form the biggest voting bloc amongst the paying Patrons, (i.e. those fans who matter) doesn't mean that a majority of fans want him to take over. L&P uses the "First past the post" system in polls but the fact that Patrons have more than one vote complicates the outcome.
I think that Dylan and Ellie are doing so well in the polls is because they are such important charakers in the game. The fact that this does not mean that the story is also told from Ellie's perspective is probably because the perspective of one of Sophia's children is sufficient and Dylan also brings in the other gender and thus more variety.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about broadening a story to contain activities & POVs of other characters. When AWAM started & for the first couple of years, so many people were introduced, it seemed that it wouldn't be constrained by the standard, slightly claustrophobic, incest-driven family of 3D games but this was an illusion. It was easier to bring in new characters than it was to write a coherent story. Dylan's & other character's POVs, along with their stories, would, IMO, be more successful if the roll-out was faster & wasn't restricted by the event-based update strait-jacket.
Yes, I also think that L&P opens too many side stories that have nothing to do with the actual theme of the game. So in my opinion you could delete Aiden (as probably the most unbelievable thug of all times) and especially the two side jobs from the game without really losing anything. The plot here has strayed so far from Sophia in her role as "A wife and mother" that the game is actually just wasting time here and everything is just unnecessarily stretched out rather than really telling a few storylines with depth.

Anyway, the current update is about Dylan and Ellie, and therefore alone a part of the core of the game, because they are both in the family that Sophia is "A wife and mother" of. That is what this game should be much more about and not less.
 
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