ambitious1234

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After Aiden, Dylan is the second creepiest kid in this VN, he keeps provoking Sophia into intimate situations by making her clean his room for the porno mag, grabbing her during tickle, the forceful bikini show, sneaking into Sophia and her friends' sauna, etc. In every interaction he has with Sophia, it feels like he wants to collect her as a body count and he has a creepy stare among the kids. inmo
 

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After Aiden, Dylan is the second creepiest kid in this VN, he keeps provoking Sophia into intimate situations by making her clean his room for the porno mag, grabbing her during tickle, the forceful bikini show, sneaking into Sophia and her friends' sauna, etc. In every interaction he has with Sophia, it feels like he wants to collect her as a body count and he has a creepy stare among the kids. inmo
Now once again for you. Dylan was actually planned as the antagonist. Until there was an outcry from his patreons when the twist was released. He deleted the twist, but kept the original twist story going for Dylan until PD13. That's why Dylan makes such a shitty appearance.
 

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For some like me, it's not so much hating a character, as not being interested in their content, or it not making sense for Sophia. In the case of Sam, it's the basketball game in the driveway. AFAIK, groping is a technical foul and as a sports teacher, Sophia shouldn't encourage it. For Dylan, it's the choice in the prologue to take two cars or one. Taking one car is highly dangerous and illegal.

And speaking of highly illegal, same for the sex ed class. Over here, Sophia would be jailed for it, and blacklisted from ever teaching again. The nursing job would just get her sacked.
Then its a good job this is all fantasy then and we don't need to worry about Sophia going to jail unless she is going to visit Larry again as that was very hot!!!!
 

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Now once again for you. Dylan was actually planned as the antagonist. Until there was an outcry from his patreons when the twist was released. He deleted the twist, but kept the original twist story going for Dylan until PD13. That's why Dylan makes such a shitty appearance.
Dylan still doesn't look like he has a long-term plan for a relationship with Sophia on the other hand Sam is a genuine romantic and he brings her musician hobbies and is the closest guy when it comes romance in this VN.
 

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Dylan still doesn't look like he has a long-term plan for a relationship with Sophia on the other hand Sam is a genuine romantic and he brings her musician hobbies and is the closest guy when it comes romance in this VN.
Did you read my comment carefully? L&P had no new storyline for Dylan and basically had major issues with incest between M/S.
With the tree-house-stalker next door, he has no problem telling a story that is well thought out from the start. If you play AWAM carefully, you should have noticed that he has turned Sam into a jack-of-all-trades. Totally nonsense. Which in turn suggests that Sam personifies L&P.
 

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Did you read my comment carefully? L&P had no new storyline for Dylan and basically had major issues with incest between M/S.
With the tree-house-stalker next door, he has no problem telling a story that is well thought out from the start. If you play AWAM carefully, you should have noticed that he has turned Sam into a jack-of-all-trades. Totally nonsense. Which in turn suggests that Sam personifies L&P.
Bro what are you talking about Dylan forces Sophia even grabbing her hands to get ready for the date. There is no romance just pure dominance by Dlyan to see what can he get away with it, Sam doesn't demand her to do stuff for him.
 

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Did you read my comment carefully? L&P had no new storyline for Dylan and basically had major issues with incest between M/S.
With the tree-house-stalker next door, he has no problem telling a story that is well thought out from the start. If you play AWAM carefully, you should have noticed that he has turned Sam into a jack-of-all-trades. Totally nonsense. Which in turn suggests that Sam personifies L&P.
you're right about this point but ambitious is right about dylan being a creep, if he did that to girls he had a crush on in school they'll most likely keep away from him or report him to a teacher.
 

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For some like me, it's not so much hating a character, as not being interested in their content, or it not making sense for Sophia. In the case of Sam, it's the basketball game in the driveway. AFAIK, groping is a technical foul and as a sports teacher, Sophia shouldn't encourage it. For Dylan, it's the choice in the prologue to take two cars or one. Taking one car is highly dangerous and illegal.

And speaking of highly illegal, same for the sex ed class. Over here, Sophia would be jailed for it, and blacklisted from ever teaching again. The nursing job would just get her sacked.
I don't think that the reasons you've mentioned are really comparable.

Sex ed class is illegal, no doubt. It's felony.
Too many passangers in one car is illegal. It's misdemeanor.
Foul in basketball is illegal. It's breaking rules of the game (by the way, there is nothing about groping in basketball rules :). At least in their versions I know).

So the real issue is probably not the legal/illegal but what makes sense (at least some sense, contrary to nonsense) for Sophia and for the story. Sex ed class is not only seriously illegal but it's also stupid. Sitting in a car on somebody's lap... allowing for excessive contact in a game... this is completely different category, and I don't have any problem with this, especially if it's necessary for the plot. Let's hate or ignore any character from the game - because they are inconsistent, badly written, behaving in a nonsense way, but not because of a single unimportant incident.

No offence, just talking like cat to cat ;).
 
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Who used cello lessons as a threat to make Sofia his secret girlfriend :WeSmart:
I wouldn't call it a threat as much as it is a scheme. It may not be obvious to some but for me, it seems like a well devised plot to screw the hot MILF neighbor next door. Creeps are not always defined by the obvious. In RL, stalkers, after being apprehended and their homes raided, were found to have had elaborate plots, numerous documents of a victims activities, et.al. People in RL have been, and still do, get charmed by the handsome, smooth-talking, intelligent sounding scammers of all time. The Enron scandal proved that as well as the guy involved in the cryptocurrency debacle. So I'm not willing to give Sam a pass on not being a creep just yet. At least with Dylan, we know where he's coming from. Both Dylan and Sam are responding to their hormones but Sam has the advantage of being able to tamper his down a notch to get the ultimate prize, Sophia's body.
 
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