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john_jones21

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And the last thing I want to say, AWAM, is the L&P project! Therefore, whether we like the way he works, how he tells us his story or not, we at least need to understand that it is his full right to do everything as he does it himself. Based on this, comments and suggestions must be expressed with respect. This is the only way we have the opportunity to somehow influence the process.
Unfortunately on the internet we can each only control ourselves. I can choose to write with respect and so can you but neither of us can stop others. Believe me if I could just ban "does there sex yet?" posts I would. The reason I mention this is if this project is ever abandoned the blame will be reflected back on the community - not enough support, not enough money, too negative etc.

Onto your questions:

1. I don't think L&P is stupid but what he perceives as a problem and what you or I might will differ. He clearly doesn't consider the release schedule a problem since he only slows it down but also demonstrated awareness that his supports do have a problem with it since he keeps promising to improve it.

2. I don't think L&P has any desire to bring on specialists for this game. Every suggestion on this has been shot down.

3. At the current development rate I think the chances of abandonment are basically 100%. There's no chance this will still be in progress in its current form 5 years from now. Very very few games last even 2 years before they're either completed or abandoned. Female protagonist and slow burn type games fail even more often.

I've managed people and projects in the working world and if someone on it was telling they me they were doing 11 hour days, they were missing deadlines and getting only slower that would be a call for immediate action to get things back on track. Usually that person would be totally miserable already and delighted to do something, anything, to get back to a sustainable and productive working schedule. If that person was actually pretty happy and refused to change then I'd say their chances of having a job still 6 months later were slim.



When the data team at RescueTime , they discovered that most workers average just 2 hours and 48 minutes of productive time per day—a far cry from the 8 hours we all think we have. And because employees have less time for productive work than they think during the workday, many end up taking work home. In fact, RescueTime found that 26 percent of all work is done outside of normal working hours.


Whether it’s the fault of your organization’s management style or hustle culture, if your employees are overworking they are getting burnt out. They’re stressed, unfocused, and distracted, which means they’ll end up working longer hours but getting less done in that time.


It’s a lose-lose.
 

hzjujk

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One of the things I've noticed while I've been trying my hand at editing AWAM is how much unnecessary dialogue there is. I've occasionally taken out whole blocks just because they don't add anything to a particular scene, and removing it helps the scene flow better.

Which made me realise that for every block of conversation I take out, that's an unnecessary render. And I'm only on day 1. Really makes me curious how much I'll end up taking out after people have commented about not liking the amount of internal monologue Sophia has at times.
I don't even know how to comment on this without hurting you. Do you stand up and program the story just because you think you can tell the plot better? What hubris! Not even editors in publishing houses act like this and think they are doing something good for the author and his work. What you may think is superfluous is what makes history come to life for others.
They have a story to tell their style, L&P has its style. You will never agree on what should and should not go into a story. That is artistic freedom. Even if this sounds a bit strange on a porn game.
 

xxxorro

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Hi everyone, where i can find the all teaser images of the new update? I want to see again every image for assemble the "puzzle" idea ahah
Yes, maybe it's time for a bit of recap before the release:


https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-4957189
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5111021
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5280684
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5325334
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5357383
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xxxorro

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And here the second part


https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5414162
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5433979
(first version before editing)
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(second version after L&P editing)
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5608082
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(you need to squint your eyes and use your peripheral vision to get the image ;))
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Alley_Cat

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I don't even know how to comment on this without hurting you. Do you stand up and program the story just because you think you can tell the plot better? What hubris! Not even editors in publishing houses act like this and think they are doing something good for the author and his work. What you may think is superfluous is what makes history come to life for others.
They have a story to tell their style, L&P has its style. You will never agree on what should and should not go into a story. That is artistic freedom. Even if this sounds a bit strange on a porn game.
All good. I make no claims that my version will be better, only that I'm using this to develop some editing skills. L&P has in the past asked for help editing, so I thought I'd give it a try. This isn't the only game I'm using to develop my editing skills either.

If you have a look at some of my posts in the fan art thread, you'll see I fully support artistic freedom. I've never said someone's render is bad just because it's not my style.
 

Old Dog

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I don't think we can eliminate the Alyssa/Dylan route altogether.
If we choose Sophia to ride Antonio, we lose the yoga event. Which means we lose progress on the Marie/Dylan route and even Sophia/Patricia. It would even leave the Sunday ranch visit event up in the air.
So, Ellie/Julia/Patricia plus Dylan/Marie on one side and Alyssa/Sophia on the other. But, Alyssa/Sophia stops the advance on the Dylan/Marie route. In this case, Dylan is left with no women :cry::whistle:, just Sophia and ... Alyssa???:love:
When you have something concrete or even feasible then come back and we will discuss
 
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Alley_Cat

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That is from the game,the GW route,when Sophia visits Liam at work.
I wonder how many people are now going to try the sex scene after the Casino that wouldn't have otherwise because of that event. Since there's no requirement at all to play the Casino path on the Dylan or Sam routes.
 
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Taurusmale67

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I asked a question previously what it takes to make a game. Can someone explain the process and why L&P is taking his patroen membership for a ride.
 

nexer

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When you have something concrete or even feasible then come back and we will discuss
I got my like back. You've changed your post.
Let's review, if you choose Alyssa:
1. not Julia.
2. not Yoga.
3. postpone Ellie.
4. postpone Patricia.
5. postpone Dylan/Marie.
6. unclear if they will go to the ranch on Sunday

What are we left with if we choose Alyssa:
1. Zac
2. Ellie, later
3. Dylan
Two pairs :love:, Zac/Alyssa and Sophia/Dylan.
Now, what's left for Dylan? Sophia (maybe Emma) and Ellie.
And for Zac? Sophia.
And for Alyssa? Sophia again.
 
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Alley_Cat

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I asked a question previously what it takes to make a game. Can someone explain the process and why L&P is taking his patroen membership for a ride.
A program like Daz3D or Honey Select to make your renders (Daz is used in this instance)
Another program like Ren'Py or RPGM for the game engine (Ren'Py used here)

What makes AWAM different (at least IMO) is the level of detail in the renders, and the story. That he actually has developed female characters and no forced scenes, especially with old, ugly males, is why as much as I'm complaining lately, I continue to support the game.
 

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I got my like back. You've changed your post.
Let's review, if you choose Alyssa:
1. not Julia.
2. not Yoga.
3. postpone Ellie.
4. postpone Patricia.
5. postpone Dylan/Marie.
6. unclear if they will go to the ranch on Sunday

What are we left with if we choose Alyssa:
1. Zac
2. Ellie, later
3. Dylan
Two pairs :love:, Zac/Alyssa and Sophia/Dylan.
Now, what's left for Dylan? Sophia (maybe Emma) and Ellie.
And for Zac? Sophia.
And for Alyssa? Sophia again.
Zac/Alyssa is a maybe and Alyssa/Sophia is almost a certainly but you will have to chose between Zac/Alyssa.
There is no indication of Dylan having any sexual involvement/thoughts with Alyssa.
 
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Poser_Voyeur

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I asked a question previously what it takes to make a game. Can someone explain the process and why L&P is taking his patroen membership for a ride.
Because he is NOT taking them for a ride. Patreon membership is optional. They can choose to cancel at any time. That means they are choosing to support L&P.

I personally could nt support L&P at the current speed of development and release of updates. I think he is fundamentally lacking in Project Management skills, is stubborn to the point of obstinacy and thus unwilling to take on help on any areas that he struggles with, and is obsessed with artistic perfectionism way past the point of diminishing returns. So I have criticisms of L&P.

Yes it is annoying to read the CONSTANT stream of immature complaints about L&P blueballing / milking / cheating / taking for a ride his Patreons. All invariably from those downloading his updates for free. And then repeat their complaints time and again.....
 
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