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Then Loagn would have to turn out to be a total ass. At the moment Elli would scratch out her brother's eyes if he would "take care" of Logan. But if the situation changes regarding the relationship between Logan and Elli and Dylan has the chance to prove himself, that happens much later in the game. Too late in my opinion to be able to impress the women effectively.
Logan is a total ass already.
He beat up a kid because he looked like Justin Biber,he was drunk at the time and lost out on a modeling contract because of this.
If Ellie told Logan that she is a virgin then Logan would shout it from the roof tops and brag about how he took Ellie's virginity.
Ellie has doubts about losing her virginity to Logan for a number of reasons but if Ellie did do it with him and Logan told everybody that he took Ellie's virginity then I don't think that she would mind too much if Dylan taught him a lesson.
 

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Logan is a total ass already.
He beat up a kid because he looked like Justin Biber,he was drunk at the time and lost out on a modeling contract because of this.
If Ellie told Logan that she is a virgin then Logan would shout it from the roof tops and brag about how he took Ellie's virginity.
Ellie has doubts about losing her virginity to Logan for a number of reasons but if Ellie did do it with him and Logan told everybody that he took Ellie's virginity then I don't think that she would mind too much if Dylan taught him a lesson.
Why is everyone here so obsessed with Elli's virginity? Well no matter.
That a young woman / girl is a little restless before her first time, is totally normal and has nothing to do with Logan. Of course Elli wonders if he's the right one for it. She's not sure about Logan and her feelings for him. Especially since she is just starting a relationship with Julia and her mother. I still don't think Logan is an ass. Too little evidence. But he got the facilities from the developer to become one.
 
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Why is everyone here so obsessed with Elli's virginity? Well no matter.
That a young woman / girl is a little restless before her first time, is totally normal and has nothing to do with Logan. Of course Elli wonders if he's the right one for it. She's not sure about Logan and her feelings for him. Especially since she is just starting a relationship with Julia and her mother. I still don't think Logan is an ass. Too little evidence. But he got the facilities from the developer to become one.
I am more obsessed on trying to find this god dam piano :ROFLMAO: :oops:
 

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What makes you think that?
Apart from common sense? We know that Ellie is concerned about her reputation, and doesn't want word getting out that she's a virgin. You really think she'd risk being seen as so pathetic that she needed her brother to lose her v-card?

And doesn't like horse-dicks. Hasn't even used her dildo.

Ellie said she wanted to lose her lose her virginity to someone special. Who that is, is likely to develop in the Ellie branches. So either Logan, Sam, Jules or Sophia. Which will be too late for the bonus storyline, which will have culminated already.
 
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I envision Dylan changing Ellie's attitude towards him by Dylan taking care of Logan.
This will impress Ellie/Sophia/Christine and many more females.
You see.. Just by the visual alone, I would have a hard time understanding this concept.

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I know Dylan is becoming a "Ninja," but this is no Hobo drinking alcohol that Dylan could take on with 3 days of MMA training. Logan's physique is more about muscle, and he appears to be in great shape physically. I would think Dylan would have to outwit Logan instead of fighting him, like maybe slashing his car tires. Aiden, IMO, would be a much more believable person to fight and win. A couple of things come to mind about your thought here.

  1. Either Dylan tries to pick a fight, maybe to defend Ellie from something, and loses. This will show Ellie that her brother would defend her no matter the cost.
  2. Or if there is a confrontation and Dylan is on the winning side, He must have used The Hyperbolic Time Chamber for training (DBZ reference) since we are way out of the realm of realism now.
I think the training is more in line with Marie's story, as she likes MMA stuff, and it may lead to a sparring match between Dylan and Marie to find common ground to advance their relationship. However, even the walkthrough shows Dylan's training is for the side story, in which Dylan and Ellie's story started as a side story, but the next P.D. will be a choice between Sophia and Ellie. This tells me that Dylan/Ellie's story will replace Sophia/Dylan's if the reader chooses this path.
 
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Apart from common sense? We know that Ellie is concerned about her reputation, and doesn't want word getting out that she's a virgin. You really think she'd risk being seen as so pathetic that she needed her brother to lose her v-card?

And doesn't like horse-dicks. Hasn't even used her dildo.

Ellie said she wanted to lose her lose her virginity to someone special. Who that is, is likely to develop in the Ellie branches. So either Logan, Sam, Jules or Sophia. Which will be too late for the bonus storyline, which will have culminated already.
There you have it straight from the horses mouth,erm I mean cats mouth :ROFLMAO:
 
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Apart from common sense? We know that Ellie is concerned about her reputation, and doesn't want word getting out that she's a virgin. You really think she'd risk being seen as so pathetic that she needed her brother to lose her v-card?

And doesn't like horse-dicks. Hasn't even used her dildo.

Ellie said she wanted to lose her lose her virginity to someone special. Who that is, is likely to develop in the Ellie branches. So either Logan, Sam, Jules or Sophia. Which will be too late for the bonus storyline, which will have culminated already.
Common Sense? You're still operating on L&P's outline from 3 years ago and how often has that changed now???????? And because the "Incest" tag is in AWAM, You really don't think Dylan and Ellie will hook up at some point?????
 

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Common Sense? You're still operating on L&P's outline from 3 years ago and how often has that changed now???????? And because the "Incest" tag is in AWAM, You really don't think Dylan and Ellie will hook up at some point?????
Incest between Sophia and Dylan, sure. Between Sophia and Ellie, of course. But Sophia and Ellie look at Dylan completely differently. Ellie is practically jumping for joy if he goes to boarding school.
 
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Incest between Sophia and Dylan, sure. Between Sophia and Ellie, of course. But Sophia and Ellie look at Dylan completely differently. Ellie is practically jumping for joy if he goes to boarding school.
Have you not been paying attention to Dylan/Ellie's Side Story? You may want to play Dylan/Ellie Side Story again. You will see Ellie's attitude is starting to change towards Dylan. There will be Brother and Sister arguments, but it seems to be changing now.
 
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Question for the ITK folks because I have a hard time keeping it straight: is it possible that there's a Dylan/Ellie path and a Sophia/Ellie path in the same play through? Or will they be completely exclusive of each other? Like, say you're on the Sophia+Dylan path, and then Dylan chooses the Ellie path, where does that leave Sophia? I guess I should stop thinking so hard....
 

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Incest between Sophia and Dylan, sure. Between Sophia and Ellie, of course. But Sophia and Ellie look at Dylan completely differently. Ellie is practically jumping for joy if he goes to boarding school.
The codes are telling you, no sex between Ellie and Dylan, right? Always your codes. You make me laughing. Don’t forget to choose the right path next pd.
 

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I know Dylan is becoming a "Ninja," but this is no Hobo drinking alcohol that Dylan could take on with 3 days of MMA training. Logan's physique is more about muscle and appears to be in great shape physically. I would think Dylan would have to outwit Logan instead of fighting him, like maybe slashing his car tires. Aiden, IMO, would be a much more believable person to fight and win. A couple of things come to mind about your thought here.

  1. Either Dylan tries to pick a fight, maybe to defend Ellie from something, and loses. This will show Ellie that her brother would defend her no matter the cost.
  2. Or if there is a confrontation and Dylan is on the winning side, He must have used The Hyperbolic Time Chamber for training (DBZ reference) since we are way out of the realm of realism now.
I think the training is more in line with Marie's story, as she likes MMA stuff, and it may lead to a sparring match between Dylan and Marie to find common ground to advance their relationship. However, even the walkthrough shows Dylan's training is for the side story, in which Dylan and Ellie's story started as a side story, but the next P.D. will be a choice between Sophia and Ellie. This tells me that Dylan/Ellie's story will replace Sophia/Dylan's if the reader chooses this path.

Lets not forget that Dylan isn't taking 45 minute Karate classes with Sensei Steve at the local dojo he's training three hours a day with a Navy Seal close quarters combat expert somebody that has likely used those skills to kill in combat situations plus Logan has no way of knowing Dylan is training (or even that he exists) so he has the element of suprise like with the hobos.
 
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Have you not been paying attention to Dylan/Ellie's Side Story? You may want to play Dylan/Ellie Side Story again. You will see Ellie's attitude is starting to change towards Dylan. The is will be Brother and Sister argument, but it seems to be changing now.
Play the bonus storyline again? What makes you think I have played it once? All information I have about it comes from this thread, or from the code. I've openly stated I get out of the Dylan and Sam routes at the basketball game.

But that doesn't matter anyway. If you have a look at both the Ellie and Sam routes, there is evidence on both sides that something might happen between them. Sam admits to finding Ellie attractive when he is talking to Sophia on day 18 in the backyard. And Ellie admits to finding Sam cute during one of the showers, he's just too young. There's nothing in the Ellie route to indicate a change in attitude in her opinion of Dylan.

I'm not saying that Ellie wont relax her disdain for him. Them having an amenable relationship would be a good thing. Only that it wont lead to sex.

That Christine is now in the bonus storyline opens up her as an LI for Dylan. Which I see as ar more likely than anything significant between Dylan and Ellie.
 
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Question for the ITK folks because I have a hard time keeping it straight: is it possible that there's a Dylan/Ellie path and a Sophia/Ellie path in the same play through? Or will they be completely exclusive of each other? Like, say you're on the Sophia+Dylan path, and then Dylan chooses the Ellie path, where does that leave Sophia? I guess I should stop thinking so hard....
I was led to believe that choosing between Sophia and Ellie would work like choosing between Ellie and Alyssa that it wouldn't end a path but just delay one? guess I was wrong.
 

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But that doesn't matter anyway. If you have a look at both the Ellie and Sam routes, there is evidence on both sides that something might happen between them. Sam admits to finding Ellie attractive when he is talking to Sophia on day 18 in the backyard. And Ellie admits to finding Sam cute during one of the showers, he's just too young. There's nothing in the Ellie route to indicate a change in attitude in her opinion of Dylan.

I'm not saying that Ellie wont relax her disdain for him. Them having an amenable relationship would be a good thing. Only that it wont lead to sex.
The day Dylan gets a haircut Ellie is very obviously shocked by her brothers looks and basically does a double take when seeing him so in my opinion she finds him cute at the least and after he fixed her computer she seems to bond with him and is even playful with winking at him at the end of the event. It's really not unreasonable for something to develop between them.
 
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