VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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Scarlet56

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I still wonder if there is not an error in the placement of the characters.
You're not going to tell me that customers don't know there's going to be a concert.
While they are all seated with their backs to the stage.

And we can't even say that they all turned around at the sight of the 2 sisters.
Okay, I'm quibbling a bit, but hey ... that's fair to say.
 
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Luckysan001 said:
Sam is a big pervert outside but he acts like a boy who doesn't know anything, when he's alone with her.
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Sam is a sycophant he only wants to get laid and will pull any dirty tricks needed to get what he wants, I live in hope of Liam or Dylan coming home and seeing Sam trying to seduce Sophia only to recive an ass kicking for his effort.
 
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bipedal_bastard said:
Can't believe it but I feel like the adult here saying this: you SERIOUSLY need to reconsider a lot of things if that is the case.



And if you're grown, financially stable, and it's SO serious for you as you say it, why don't you become a part of said paying demographic. Personally I have played many games here (nothing more than fap material for me sorry mate) that gets certain updates that kill my boner. But I absolutely feel I have no right to really protest because it was voted in by patrons, and knowing (having experience) how absolutely soul crushing and tough game dev can be (yes even VNs) I think the devs are perfectly justified to cater to the demographics that pay their bills. Because they're the one's actually help making the games not us.
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No, I don't feel the need to reconsider anything but I do anyway, (frequently, need or not) & I'm quite content with my position. What I said was a paraphrase of a famous quote about football (soccer), spoken by a legendary manager, when I was young. It's called humour. I don't care if it seems I'm not been adult enough for you but your use of the upper case to reply suggests you could be the one taking things too seriously. Anyway, at my age that's almost a back-handed compliment, like getting asked if I was over 18 at a night-club, when I was 23. (That was the last time but it felt good). Maybe I'm just "young at heart," in the words of the over-used old phrase.

Why I don't pay for this is simple & concerns the rate of production. I may be financially stable now but I wasn't for most of my life. [I mean sell the jacket off your back to buy food unstable]. Many old folks will tell you that life is tough & that it was often harder "in their day". (That used to hack me off when I was a youth). Now I'm one of them.That means that I understand the value of money. I've been a patron of several Patreon creators in the past & still pay a Patreon bill every month. Whenever production falls off, I take my money to a different site, where production is steady & provide the honest feedback as to why I've left, when asked. (I may be stable but I don't have cash to burn). If production of AWAM ever reached the promised level, I would reconsider this issue accordingly. I understand production, to some extent, because like many people I was involved in producing things, at various times & for several extremely varied employers, from the shop-floor to the dizzying but not necessarily well-rewarded heights of middle management & this over several decades.

I've always, (check previous posts & also for my views on the totally predictable poll result), maintained that catering to a Dev's paying public makes perfect economic sense. It's so self-evident I usually comment believing that everyone understands that this is a given. If the paying public being catered to consists of a majority of kids who use the product to wank off to in their parent's attics, basements, or their own rooms, I'm not judging them, or anybody else. After all we certainly can't expect a world where everyone uses the same fap material. None of this negates my right to protest at what I don't like on a free(ish) speech platform. Only abusive language, political or religious posturing, or personal insults would do this IMO.

If you were to check my previous posts, you'd see that I've always had an over-arching hope for L&P & AWAM to succeed. This is how I still think but I also feel that there needs to be a reboot of the VN's original aims, ie L&P's stated goals, before things go too far in the direction that's now observable. When I say "succeed" I mean having a wide appeal to a varied audience, something that was achieved for several years. Well, that's a long reply but you did raise some salient points & I love the smell of keyboard in the morning. That's another paraphrase from my younger days but you already knew that?
 
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ancienregimele said:
Good point. Why didn't I think of that? Must be the old thing...again!
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Well, if our little Maquiavelo wants to make something with his MILF neighbour and his mother's friend after the performance, the first thing that he has to do is avoid his mother Amber goes at the concert. " No Mom don't go, you would don't like the place"
 
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jason12359 said:
okays got it, also played the game "life in middle east", quite a similar plot like this, also another good game, so asked it.
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Sophia might wear a hijab, or something similar, if there was to be a slave auction scene, then it would disappear. That would have been unthinkable a few years ago but now we're into the gathering of the fetishes, who knows?
 
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hzjujk said:
The barmaid's grin looks like she's thinking, "Oh, fresh meat for my male cats here".
When I saw the inside of the bar I immediately thought of an old film with the late actor Patrick Swayze. In this film he plays a bouncer in a bar. In the bar, the live bands were protected from the audience by a wire fence.
So if the teenagers perform in this bar, the concert should be over for this clientele after 10 minutes. If the bikers at the tables are not good husbands and have dressed up as bikers at the end of the day, they will personally lend a hand and kick the band out. Unless the two women appear on stage as dancers. Then the concert can last for hours.
If so, Sophia will be perceived as a sexual object for the second time that day and it will arouse her.
If so, the idea of Aiden doing a job for Sophia, appearing in a table dance bar, becomes more and more likely. In a sense, she has already trained here once.
If so then Sophia's clothes are just right and L & P's anger about the choice of clothes was not entirely sincere.
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You mean Roadhouse, that’s a fun movie, with lots of eye candy too
 
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Luckysan001 said:
You're right, my friend.
If Sam really loved Soohia and If he is the person who cares about her so much, he certainly wouldn't have been invited her to such bars.He would not tell her to come alone.

There is not a single woman besides Sophia and Patricia at that bar. And he has invited Sophia to this bar, even to come alone,

The strange thing here is that Sam did not invite his family to this bar for his concert. And he hasn't even invited his friend Dylan to the show.

He already knew about the bar, Sam is not invited to the bar because of the safety of his mother Amber and his sister Julia.

I think sam only loves Sophia's beauty and her body, He only wants to fuck Sophia.

The real thing is that stupid f**** Sam is a big Pervert. He has clearly proved that the Son is like the Father. He only wants to have sex with her.

When Sophia asks for water to drink, he brings her alcohol to drink . And These scenes are proof that Sam is a pervert.

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The sad thing for us is that Sophia went to the show wearing a hot dress for the perverted Sam.

In fact, Dylan is the only person in this game who loves Sophia the most, cares for her and protects her all the time.Maybe in the near future Sophia and Dylan will Appear as everyone's favorite pair on the romantic route.:love:



You are right my friend i agree with you. If that asshole Aiden blackmails Sophia directly, Sam emotionally blackmails Sophia and he tries to earn her love.

Sam is a big pervert outside but he acts like a boy who doesn't know anything, when he's alone with her.

Exactly he doesn't look any different than Aiden.
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i,ve been saying that about sam since the beginning of the game. he work with nasty tricks that, like his father. no other woman can get around.
 
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Luckysan001 said:
You're right, my friend.
If Sam really loved Soohia and If he is the person who cares about her so much, he certainly wouldn't have been invited her to such bars.He would not tell her to come alone.

There is not a single woman besides Sophia and Patricia at that bar. And he has invited Sophia to this bar, even to come alone,

The strange thing here is that Sam did not invite his family to this bar for his concert. And he hasn't even invited his friend Dylan to the show.

He already knew about the bar, Sam is not invited to the bar because of the safety of his mother Amber and his sister Julia.

I think sam only loves Sophia's beauty and her body, He only wants to fuck Sophia.

The real thing is that stupid f**** Sam is a big Pervert. He has clearly proved that the Son is like the Father. He only wants to have sex with her.

When Sophia asks for water to drink, he brings her alcohol to drink . And These scenes are proof that Sam is a pervert.

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The sad thing for us is that Sophia went to the show wearing a hot dress for the perverted Sam.

In fact, Dylan is the only person in this game who loves Sophia the most, cares for her and protects her all the time.Maybe in the near future Sophia and Dylan will Appear as everyone's favorite pair on the romantic route.:love:



You are right my friend i agree with you. If that asshole Aiden blackmails Sophia directly, Sam emotionally blackmails Sophia and he tries to earn her love.

Sam is a big pervert outside but he acts like a boy who doesn't know anything, when he's alone with her.

Exactly he doesn't look any different than Aiden.
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I like Sam being a little snake in the grass. It's interesting to see the options available to us.

I also like the Aiden little power hungry moves to manipulate Sophia.

These two routes are interesting to me. Or the novel wouldn't have me waiting for the next update. The Shota, incest and old dudes route is a turn off for me.

My personal opinions.
 
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