VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[Bill_Buttlicker]

Omg lol

C'mon guys.

I'm sure many guys are hoping some women will do just that

 

[ancienregimele]

Haru and Jason don't bother me because I think they act only as an excuse for Patricia and Sophia to further their relationship. If it wasn't Haru and Jason then L&P would need to find another excuse for Patricia and Sophia to get together and do sexy things- and that may require extra characters anyways. But the other examples are perfect because L&P seems to have plans for them that go beyond just a simple plot device like Haru and Jason.

Oh No...you've become an advocate for Jason & Haru! Seriously, I get what you're saying. I can think of other characters to consider for the fadeout treatment but they could be more controversial, e.g. Vicky & DeShawn, (or dare I say just Vicky). It's not that I dislike them but there's just not the emotional involvement to warrant taking them further.

If Vicky is meant to be lesbian non-family LI, (which now doesn't seem as likely as it once did), we've got Alyssa & Nathalie for that. If they're going to be swingers, we've got Cathy & Andy to cover that angle. I would contend that it's far more likely to occur with the latter couple, because they're long-term friends of both Sophia & Liam, plus Liam has seen Cathy in her lingerie & well.... Some time ago, in a previous post, I gave a sketched outline of the closest my first wife & I came to this, back in the late 70s when swinging was a 'thing' & how a roomful of people all got cold feet. It's just not that easy & it would certainly threaten existing friendships but it's more likely with people you know than with complete strangers & Liam doesn't know Vicky or DeShawn.

Now I know some fans may think DeShawn is there to provide the interacial fetish but isn't that just too cliched & a bit tired? He would need some rapid progress if it is the case.

There's also the possibility to look at Nathalie & Zac. Where are their stories heading? Are they really necessary? I did say these choices could be controversial. I don't want all of the above to fade from the scene, of course but the VN definitely needs trimming now & not some time 4-7 years from now, when it could be one event every year, if it still exists.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Oh No...you've become an advocate for Jason & Haru! Seriously, I get what you're saying. I can think of other characters to consider for the fadeout treatment but they could be more controversial, e.g. Vicky & DeShawn, (or dare I say just Vicky). It's not that I dislike them but there's just not the emotional involvement to warrant taking them further.

If Vicky is meant to be lesbian non-family LI, (which now doesn't seem as likely as it once did), we've got Alyssa & Nathalie for that. If they're going to be swingers, we've got Cathy & Andy to cover that angle. I would contend that it's far more likely to occur with the latter couple, because they're long-term friends of both Sophia & Liam, plus Liam has seen Cathy in her lingerie & well.... Some time ago, in a previous post, I gave a sketched outline of the closest my first wife & I came to this, back in the late 70s when swinging was a 'thing' & how a roomful of people all got cold feet. It's just not that easy & it would certainly threaten existing friendships but it's more likely with people you know than with complete strangers & Liam doesn't know Vicky or DeShawn.

Now I know some fans may think DeShawn is there to provide the interacial fetish but isn't that just too cliched & a bit tired? He would need some rapid progress if it is the case.

There's also the possibility to look at Nathalie & Zac. Where are their stories heading? Are they really necessary? I did say these choices could be controversial. I don't want all of the above to fade from the scene, of course but the VN definitely needs trimming now & not some time 4-7 years from now, when it could be one event every year, if it still exists.

I'm totally fine dropping Vicky and DeShawn from the game for exactly the reasons you gave. Even if the two of them represent a specific fetish, I question if they're worth any more time investment. A game like AWAM can't be expected to cater to all fetishes, so either they're here for some sort of fringe kink or they're redundant. If they were to never show up again and all of their planned scenes were given to Dylan, or Ellie, or Allyssa I don't think anyone would complain. For me the sauna scene spoke volumes, L&P couldn't make the dialog convincing and I felt no connection between the characters, no matter how many smoldering looks they gave one another.

 

[Adolfo]

In the pic I think that there is 2 images. Above it seems Sophia is standing looking to someone. Below you can see a male arm embracing her or opening her a car's door. But it can be something absolutely different

 

[Adolfo]

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I'm totally fine dropping Vicky and DeShawn from the game for exactly the reasons you gave. Even if the two of them represent a specific fetish, I question if they're worth any more time investment. A game like AWAM can't be expected to cater to all fetishes, so either they're here for some sort of fringe kink or they're redundant. If they were to never show up again and all of their planned scenes were given to Dylan, or Ellie, or Allyssa I don't think anyone would complain. For me the sauna scene spoke volumes, L&P couldn't make the dialog convincing and I felt no connection between the characters, no matter how many smoldering looks they gave one another.

the sauna scene was a fantastic stepping stone but I agree with you that it was really badly exploited. I have always said that L&P is held back by something and this has caused the start of many interesting situations, which will then have to be eliminated (as happened for the coach's dlc)

 

[ashitanojoe]

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After enhacer tools

 

[MaliPizdek]

After enhacer tools

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what is this? new previews?

 

[ashitanojoe]

what is this? new previews?

The two most recent previews that weren't shared.

 

[ashitanojoe]

you can't see anything bro

What are you talking about? It's very clear to me: In the first pic (last preview), Sophia is sitting grabbing her shoes or a purse inside a car maybe. The second pic is even more clear, she is dancing together to a person *edit in blue jeans and white shirt, no doubts. I'm seeing it in a tv screen.

 

[Old Dog]

Omg lol

C'mon guys.

This is what I have heard that it can happen

 

[Alley_Cat]

What are you talking about? It's very clear to me: In the first pic (last preview), Sophia is sitting grabbing her shoes or a purse inside a car maybe. The second pic is even more clear, she is dancing together to a man in blue jeans and white shirt, no doubts. I'm seeing it in a tv screen.

Blue jeans and a white shirt? That's Patricia, not a man. We've already seen that teaser

 

[Old Dog]

The game is in no mans land. I agree with you that the 5+ month development cycles aren't the crux of the problem. Instead the problem is that it takes 5+ months and nothing/very little happens. This game lives in the details, so it's going to be really difficult to change the pacing of the game, even if he were to cut everything right to the bone. He doesn't want this game to be nothing but scenes with Dylan, Ellie, and Aiden; and I applaud him for that. It's good to mix the game up and have stories that crisscross one another. It's also good (on paper) that multiple days can go by without seeing a major character, that helps keep things fresh. I recently tried to play a game but quit because literally every scene was with the LI and no one else. After awhile it was just boring that every single conversation had to be so sexually charged. And a lot of game suffer from that. But not AWAM, but it has swung too far in the other direction. We have scenes and characters that are nice but do little but delay progress with the characters we'd rather be spending time with. And since each update covers such a small proportion of the game, and each update takes so long to come out, it's frustrating that everything moves sooooo slowly.

But now I'm just bitching and I don't want to do that. I've mulled over this topic for a long time, and I know we've discussed it to death; but I still think the only way to move the story forward quickly without sacrificing too much of what makes this game unique is to use time jumps. I know it's complicated, and that story lines could get mishandled in the process, but there just doesn't seem to be that much fat to cut. Yeah, you could cut the two side jobs, and that would save a lot of time, but if you start cutting other characters then you're treading on thin ice. I'd rather he cut the two side jobs and then focus on some well positioned time jumps to get the story moving a little. Instead of cutting "fat" he could prioritize and structure the scenes that we're only seeing the important ones. So, for example, Ellie isn't having a shower with Sophia every day- but every time we see her in the morning it is for a shower. We could also consolidate scenes so that something important happens in each one. Right now there are scenes that only add details for the future, but contribute little for titillation or entertainment. If the time jump could eliminate these scenes and consolidate them into other scenes that are simply more entertaining, I think that would be a huge win.

In the end I think no option is great. It's just the nature of how he has structured the game. There is a lot to learn from AWAM about how to structure a slow burn and how to reign in your ambition. I'd really like to make a voyeurism game, but since I don't know DAZ that seems impossible. But anytime I really think about it I find myself really using AWAM as one of the primary guides for what, and what not, to do.

Note- Maybe splitting the game up into seasons would be something that could work. Maybe changing the landmarks would help with expectations and anticipation. Right now most people are frustrated that sex is likely 7+ years away. But what if a season-ending climax could be reached in say 2 years? It wouldn't include sex, but with some restructuring maybe it could be something sexy, dramatic, and attainable. The problem that most of us have is that so much of what this game offers feels unattainable because it's too many years away. But what if a season ending climatic event could be achieved that would act as a pressure relief valve? Maybe setting more short term goals and adding more sexual content than what currently exists would be a good compromise.

Or maybe I'm writing too much.

He has talked about

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It has already been discussed what the pictures are

 

[ashitanojoe]

Blue jeans and a white shirt? That's Patricia, not a man. We've already seen that teaser

Do you mean blurry teaser or the real one? But yeah, Patricia has blue jeans and white shirt, after the enhancement her body looks like a male one, my bad.

 

[Old Dog]

Blue jeans and a white shirt? That's Patricia, not a man. We've already seen that teaser

Correct

 

[bayrischman]

No, its not true.
This is how the progress looks now
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update comes in mid- february. only 8 months after the last update. 3 weeks after the update nothing was done. in august 3 weeks vacation nothing done. in september 3 weeks without any progress. now the autumn holidays are coming 2 weeks nothing will work. november he is sick for 2,5 weeks . in dezember from january 20th to 7th it stops.

 

[Michael Rawson]

Perhaps in the next update something will happen with Dylan and Christine or Christina or what the hell her part time ass is.

My friend, in the next update, on the Dylan route. If you had set expectations that something hot will happen between Dylan, Ellie and Christine.What you are expecting does not happen. Because in this game Dylan's path only adds realism.Whatever his fans set such expectations, it will not happen. I'd say it's a waste. L&P Dylan only adds realism to one's path. But Unfortunately since there are no realism to the other paths and side paths, you can expect them to have will something hot happen along their routes. The Sophia and Natalie event will feature more hot scenes in the next update.Then Sam's event is the Big Event and if you notice that L&P is taking too much time for that event, The concert event is likely to feature more hot scenes. As far as I can see, the biggest event of the game is the Sam event coming up in the next update.That means one event of Sam is equal to two of Dylan's events. And while the Kathy and Andy event is small, I think we can see some hot scenes there too. But it is futile to expect such hot scenes at the Dylan, Ellie and Christine event, because there is some small teasing in the event, that's all.

Except for Dylan's path in PD12. Other paths and side roles have progressed at high speeds and have been extremely successful in getting the most out of Sophia. Except for one event of Dylan on PD12. The rest of the all events are well written by L&P. The next day, that means there may be events for Dylan in PD 13, but he will make more progress that day. I don't believe Dylan goes ahead of everyone else. Because in his path we have never seen even the slightest hint of romance. Let go of his romantic path, But even lust here is not right in his path. Some of the small progress we've seen so far on Dylan's path is that she showed her breasts to Dylan at a mall event and he touched Sophia's ass at a jogging event.


We can see these two through sex-ed. It took PD12 to show these two small progresses in the game and for Dylan fans to see, which means the story takes 12 days. If Dylan needs 12 days to touch her ass, it may look like he needs another 12 days to touch Sophia's vagina, which means that in PD 24 Dylan finally can touch her pussy. If this continues, Dylan's character, which has become very popular in the story, will surely fall. In the days to come. If Dylan's path fails to make much progress over the next 2 PDs, perhaps Dylan's supporters on Patreon's page will stop supporting him.

 

[ashitanojoe]

I have a strange theory about the last blurry preview. Sophia could be sitting in the back part of this pickup truck, the border looks green.



Althoug it's more probable Patricia's convertible with grey borders.

 

[XoXmmahmm]

I have a strange theory about the last blurry preview. Sophia could be sitting in the back part of this pickup truck, the border looks green.

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Althoug it's more probable Patricia's convertible with grey borders.

Maybe next month we all knows answer.

 

[Old Dog]

Maybe next month we all knows answer.

Nobody is in the pickup truck.