I don't want to get into this dispute, but to be perfectly honest, even Dylan has shown evidence of inheriting some bad behavior from his father.
Pretty sure everyone of us guys has a wondering eye.
If so, then this person deserves a "thumbs up" emoji for inventing this artificial character. And in this case I hope for many more of his funny and quite strange posts here in the forum. But I will not make the mistake of replying to him.
Well Dylan has also inherited a bit from Sophia.
That is what is confusing. Since Sophia does not like Logan, Sophia Logan just does not seem to make any sense.
Whenever you post such a statement here then my whole beautiful thought structure collapses. This is really frustrating! You are so mean!!!
if you think about it Sam is so obsessed with touching the fabric that everything meaningful he did to her he did it through the fabric
seeing the first render made me think that someday L&P might have the brilliant idea to remake the older updates...
Sophia would really have to be quite drunk by then. And Elli would have to encourage her mother to do it in conversation, which would be pretty violent. I admit the scene would be hot and since Logan or and Tyler are not love interests, but just human dildos to dispose of after use, I would also have no problem with the involvement of the two characters.
Yes, we discussed at the time the semantics of "sex scene" and obviously there is no way to tell whether it's part of the language barrier or he is voluntarily and astutely, as usual, playing on the line of ambiguity.
uh Yes it does Nat and Sophia
Just a comparison to the real world. Current rate of production is 20+ months per PD. 3 PDs = 60 months = 5 years // 4 PDs=80 months = 6 years 8 months.
I had considered a reply but, I am so happy to have read yours. I just got up off the floor to reply.
Hmmmm? Thought: Logan and Ellie are getting a bit involved and then Ellie decides this is not what she wants and tries to stop things. Logan only has a few functional brain cells at this point (lack of blood flow above shoulders) and is trying to force issue. Sophia comes in room in response to certain sounds. She breaks up the event and chases Logan away. Then Ellie and Sophie spend time talking things over and Ellie finally says she feels dirty from the event and needs a shower. She goes for a shower and, after a bit, Sophia comes in for her obligatory 5th shower of the day. Soon there is more than hot water flowing. Would this define a wild event?
(For married guys only) You can always look at the menu. Just don't order!
So then what is he making such a distinction between the lesbian sex scene and the Big lesbian sex (ual) scene. I think this day is the first truley lesbian full go at it scene.Yes, we discussed at the time the semantics of "sex scene" and obviously there is no way to tell whether it's part of the language barrier or he is voluntarily and astutely, as usual, playing on the line of ambiguity.
And on this topic, I think someone else mentioned it before but it popped out again in my mind while I was compiling the list for the d-day PD 16:
PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
- there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) with the return of Tyler and Logan (thanks Adolfo)
- She does not teach on Mondays so if there's an Aiden event it's likely to be out-of-school (in the afternoon)
- "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P quote
Now, if we assume that
then the "within" has no other interpretation than PD 16, so that Sophia is really having 2 sexual intercourses in a day.
- the wild event quote is still valid
- we are really talking about sex scene as full sex, i.e. sexual intercourse (big if!)
Isn't that too much? I know, I know, things have to move on, progress, we've been waiting for so long etc etc. Ok
But **story-wise** isn't a little bit out of pace for the type of story that has been told so far? I mean, given the character and the story, I would have expected that the first time Sophia has sex with a male it's a defining moment in the story, with Sophia completely overwhelmed emotionally as it is a huge step giving her story of loyal wife and after all still in love with her husband. So one can easily imagine the emotional conflict, on one side the excitement for the event and on the other the regret and the sense of guilt for stepping over the line. I'd find a bit out of character if, as usual, she resets and in one of the other events of the day she goes at it again. It is difficult to reset something like that.
Obviously my reasoning is based on the fact that, whatever happens and with whomever, Sophia is "willing" to step over that line, i.e. I'm not assuming some "forced" (or worse non-consensual) act. Like, e.g. as part of an Aiden's task (even if atm such progression seems premature) or something like that as part of a blackmail path. Even in that case, and even if the 2nd time is more something à la Sam (giving in to the passion/"romantic" route) or à la Tyler (stranger + alcohol), it would be still (IMO) a bit out of place. Unless she gets drunk to cope with the shock of the 1st and she gives in with the 2nd encounter.
This is my feeling, I don't know if some of you had the same impression. And obviously there are still many things that can happen until then, many moving variables that we are not aware of and a lot of "ifs" in the premise.
To explore other possibilities, it could be that the 2 scenes are mutually exclusive: she can have sex with X or Y but not both because X and Y are on different incompatible paths. Male characters that atm have alternative routes from the top of my head:
Not really conclusive I must say.
- the old gents and the apostles: they are on alternative paths but there is more than a possible candidate in each and I'd tend to exclude threesomes or orgies
- Aiden and Morello: we don't know yet the details but after the solution they become two different paths but we still don't know if Morello will have a role/path in the story
- Aiden and Dylan: if sent to boarding school there is mutual exclusion, but we know that it ends Sophia/Dylan so it's a no.
- Aiden and Carl: if Dylan goes to boarding school Carl plays an important role finding the school but the character had only little interaction with Sophia atm.
The other possibility is that one of the 2 events is the swing event with Cathy&Andy. It's not yet clear if that happens in all the routes, GW or FW, atm we don't have this information for sure. In any case, at the end of the past event they said they are going to think about it for a few days. The timing would be still a bit stretched but that could be one of the two events (and it would fit well the "wild" and the "something unexpected", at least at the time of that post). That won't be cheating per se as Liam and Sophia already discussed, and (IMO) it would be more "compatible" with the previous cheating event (assuming the swinging happens in the evening at the end of the day). Of course it could also be optional in case it happens only for GW > FW or other combinations.
Ok, enough speculations for today
PD 16 will have at least 4 events with Elly.I doubt all will be with Sophia.
How could you add Logan and Tyler returning on playable day 16 and not add Jules?Yes, we discussed at the time the semantics of "sex scene" and obviously there is no way to tell whether it's part of the language barrier or he is voluntarily and astutely, as usual, playing on the line of ambiguity.
And on this topic, I think someone else mentioned it before but it popped out again in my mind while I was compiling the list for the d-day PD 16:
PD 16 - Day 23 - Monday
[1st big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd big hetero sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
[2nd lesbian sex scene with an important character: Within the next 4 playable days]
- there are "several Ellie's events spread out over the day" (aka Ellie's day) with the return of Tyler and Logan (thanks Adolfo)
- She does not teach on Mondays so if there's an Aiden event it's likely to be out-of-school (in the afternoon)
- "Something definitely really "wild" what is not with the husband [...] and it will be something no one will definitely expect at the moment!" as per L&P quote
Now, if we assume that
then the "within" has no other interpretation than PD 16, so that Sophia is really having 2 sexual intercourses in a day.
- the wild event quote is still valid
- we are really talking about sex scene as full sex, i.e. sexual intercourse (big if!)
Isn't that too much? I know, I know, things have to move on, progress, we've been waiting for so long etc etc. Ok
But **story-wise** isn't a little bit out of pace for the type of story that has been told so far? I mean, given the character and the story, I would have expected that the first time Sophia has sex with a male it's a defining moment in the story, with Sophia completely overwhelmed emotionally as it is a huge step giving her story of loyal wife and after all still in love with her husband. So one can easily imagine the emotional conflict, on one side the excitement for the event and on the other the regret and the sense of guilt for stepping over the line. I'd find a bit out of character if, as usual, she resets and in one of the other events of the day she goes at it again. It is difficult to reset something like that.
Obviously my reasoning is based on the fact that, whatever happens and with whomever, Sophia is "willing" to step over that line, i.e. I'm not assuming some "forced" (or worse non-consensual) act. Like, e.g. as part of an Aiden's task (even if atm such progression seems premature) or something like that as part of a blackmail path. Even in that case, and even if the 2nd time is more something à la Sam (giving in to the passion/"romantic" route) or à la Tyler (stranger + alcohol), it would be still (IMO) a bit out of place. Unless she gets drunk to cope with the shock of the 1st and she gives in with the 2nd encounter.
This is my feeling, I don't know if some of you had the same impression. And obviously there are still many things that can happen until then, many moving variables that we are not aware of and a lot of "ifs" in the premise.
To explore other possibilities, it could be that the 2 scenes are mutually exclusive: she can have sex with X or Y but not both because X and Y are on different incompatible paths. Male characters that atm have alternative routes from the top of my head:
Not really conclusive I must say.
- the old gents and the apostles: they are on alternative paths but there is more than a possible candidate in each and I'd tend to exclude threesomes or orgies
- Aiden and Morello: we don't know yet the details but after the solution they become two different paths but we still don't know if Morello will have a role/path in the story
- Aiden and Dylan: if sent to boarding school there is mutual exclusion, but we know that it ends Sophia/Dylan so it's a no.
- Aiden and Carl: if Dylan goes to boarding school Carl plays an important role finding the school but the character had only little interaction with Sophia atm.
The other possibility is that one of the 2 events is the swing event with Cathy&Andy. It's not yet clear if that happens in all the routes, GW or FW, atm we don't have this information for sure. In any case, at the end of the past event they said they are going to think about it for a few days. The timing would be still a bit stretched but that could be one of the two events (and it would fit well the "wild" and the "something unexpected", at least at the time of that post). That won't be cheating per se as Liam and Sophia already discussed, and (IMO) it would be more "compatible" with the previous cheating event (assuming the swinging happens in the evening at the end of the day). Of course it could also be optional in case it happens only for GW > FW or other combinations.
Ok, enough speculations for today
KillJoys lived up to his name because I kept saying the "wild" event is likely to be with Ellie. According to an email he recieved from L&P, the wild event would be hetero.Hmmmm? Thought: Logan and Ellie are getting a bit involved and then Ellie decides this is not what she wants and tries to stop things. Logan only has a few functional brain cells at this point (lack of blood flow above shoulders) and is trying to force issue. Sophia comes in room in response to certain sounds. She breaks up the event and chases Logan away. Then Ellie and Sophie spend time talking things over and Ellie finally says she feels dirty from the event and needs a shower. She goes for a shower and, after a bit, Sophia comes in for her obligatory 5th shower of the day. Soon there is more than hot water flowing. Would this define a wild event?
After last time with Ellie, it seems like I'm really trying my best to disappoint you!How could you add Logan and Tyler returning on playable day 16 and not add Jules?
Julia being back on PD16 came from a Patreon post KillJoys showed me, so not explicitly credible. But like I said, it seems fair to assume that all three of Ellie's LIs will make an appearance for the start of their branches.After last time with Ellie, it seems like I'm really trying my best to disappoint you!
But honestly this time I didn't know about that. Where does that come from? Is it intel from someone or from the script?
We know that Ellie is supposed to give back the jacket to Julia in the upcoming PD but there is no explicit event in the list.
But on Monday I had no idea. I'm glad though, and I'll update the post!
