VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[new_user!]

There was a time when updates were 1 playable day. Although events were comparatively small.
then half day into update
then again one third ....
now even 1 scene update is taking 60- 90 days
I wonder what's coming next
sophia parks car in garage 1 update
sophia walks to main gate 1 update
sophia greets her husband at door 1 update
sophia goes to her room 1 update
sophia changes clothes drops her skirt 1 update
sophia removes bra from one boob, there you go 1 hot update

I also thought: everyone was so tired of waiting for the update that they discussed the details of the second after the next update, because in the first they had already discussed everything, the growth of characters and other nonsense. All this is in order to fill the painful expectation with something. And since the conversation does not subside, it means that there are a lot of interlocutors, and many more people are waiting for updates, but they are silent. But something doesn't allow everyone to just slam the door and leave? What kind of drug is this?

 

[Rojouninco1]

Spoiler: Without "Alcohol Influence" :)

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[jonnybravo11]

But something doesn't allow everyone to just slam the door and leave? What kind of drug is this?

Its the Fap that's holding us here. Hope of fapping to our best choice of scene.

 

[Sadowdark]

Spoiler: Without "Alcohol Influence" :)

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Sophia is slightly inserted here that shows her behavior.

 

[hzjujk]

Just an important point, this is no longer a "Normal" mother and son we are talking about. The son has seen his mother bare chested of her own volition. Has jerked off to her with her permission, the mother has posed like a Playboy model for her son and the son has publicly grabbed her ass and massaged it in a public park. Not to mention if you replay the last jogging scene with Dylan you will see how much more open she is while talking to Dylan about her breasts and butt and so on.

So in order to initiate a conversation about her first time, just a few right buttons need to be pushed and things will sail smoothly without alcohol.

On the one hand you write that it makes sense that Sophia's next events are not influenced by the previous events and then you take the past to prove that Sophia's relationship with Dylan has changed so much that she tells without hesitation about the spicy details of her first sexual experience. And still moves lasciviously and naked and probably lets Dylan touch her. You argue here as it fits your fantasies.
And I mean not only the writer of the post but also those who have given a "Like" here.
And no matter what you write now. It will not convince me.
Yes, Sophia's relationship with her son is special. But she is still not so far that she would do that now so simply.
And as for the special buttons, I'm curious to see what L&P will come up with.

Please don't take this as an attack, I just didn't know how to write it differently.

And now "good night".

 

[Sadowdark]

You don't get the feeling that Sam is acting like a psychopathic stalker killer. First, he surrounds his victim, Sophia. (He often visits Sophia by accident. He invites her to learn to play an instrument. He spies on her from the treehouse.) Then she falls asleep, her vigilance makes her feel safe and vulnerable. Pretending to be romantic When Sophia feels safe, she will drink alcohol and will use Sophia. When he gets bored, he will abandon Sophia or pass on to someone else. The character of Rokman I will find a new purpose. An example from the textbook activity of a psychopathic killer.

 

[FullyAnimated]

You don't get the feeling that Sam is acting like a psychopathic stalker killer.

Nope.

Teenager with a crush is all I see.

On the other hand, Dylan's behavior ...

 

[ancienregimele]

I just glanced through a few scenes of the game and it just leads me to believe the the height given for Sophia is a randomly thought up number by L&P just because he was asked.
I say this because. Almost every adult in the game is taller than Sophia. Liam is taller even when Sophia is wearing heels in some scenes so is Andy. So is Larry, Neil looks very tall in comparison to Sophia ( refer the moment when he tries to take off her bra in the bathroom ), The Thugs are taller, Morello is taller as well even though Sophia is easily wearing heels higher than 4 inches. The Janitor is taller, Bennett is taller as well even when she is wearing heels, Deshawn is pretty tall too and so is the case with the Bald Drunk guy in the Park. Some guys from Aiden's group were taller even with Sophia in heels and also at the art class some boys were almost as tall as Sophia and I believe Xavier was taller. He has also recently made Dylan and Sam taller than before ( maybe because of patreon who knows ).

I really hope you're right on this but many 3D off-the-shelf models do scale out at around 6 feet & even more than that with heels added, probably owing to the current requirement for tall supermodels on the cat-walks of fashion houses. Looking like Miss/Ms girl-next-door, let alone Mrs/Ms Average, doesn't suit the image that is required, for whatever reason, not that Sophia could ever look average. IMO it's better for Sophia not to have any more exaggerated features, after what the Dev did to her breast size. I prefer her as the 'woman-next-door' who happens to be beautiful, intelligent, multi-talented & rich.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

Progress Report Ver. 0.175.
75% - 70%
0% - 0%

 

[lockerxx]

good progress.

 

[Sabertooth__]

On the one hand you write that it makes sense that Sophia's next events are not influenced by the previous events and then you take the past to prove that Sophia's relationship with Dylan has changed so much that she tells without hesitation about the spicy details of her first sexual experience. And still moves lasciviously and naked and probably lets Dylan touch her. You argue here as it fits your fantasies.
And I mean not only the writer of the post but also those who have given a "Like" here.
And no matter what you write now. It will not convince me.
Yes, Sophia's relationship with her son is special. But she is still not so far that she would do that now so simply.
And as for the special buttons, I'm curious to see what L&P will come up with.

Please don't take this as an attack, I just didn't know how to write it differently.

And now "good night".

Okay, i believe you are gravely misunderstanding what i have said now or in the past relating to the topic. And no i am not taking this as an attack. I'll try to explain myself clearly so there is no misunderstanding.

Firstly my post in no way means that Sophia will not hesitate to talk about the details. But if the conversation is written well it will be possible to write such a situation without needing alcohol. Driving a conversation from a completely innocent topic to a sexual one requires a decent writing and L&P has done it in a good number of events.

Second, i never ever said past events don't impact future events. Infact i have myself said that the past events together have had a huge impact on Sophia till now. She is much more willing to divulge Sexual information and to do sexual things with others. What i said was that it is near impossible for L&P to accommodate for all possibilities and hence he tries to avoid intertwining other routes too much.

But in this case what i have said is that Sophia will remember all her past events with Dylan while playing the Dylan route. Because you won't have the next Dylan event without the past events.
Similarly while playing the Sam route Sophia remembers Everything she has done with Sam.
In the Ellie route she remembers kissing in the shower, masturbating with her, kissing Patricia and Julia. She will not forget that.
Sophia may or may not recall the events of the other routes, depending on the players choice of routes, but she will definitely remember what she did with a particular character in the past.
The structure of the game is built on the very idea, that if a past event with a character does not happen then nothing else can happen with them in the future.

Like for Sam, if Sophia never showed her areolas nothing would start, if she didn't form a bond with him, she would never go to his performance, if she never went to his performance she would never get to be in the Jaccuzi with Sam and if she never made out with Sam in the Jaccuzi she would not be going to Sam's house as she is in the next update.
This principle applies to all routes.

 

[Sadowdark]

Okay, i believe you are gravely misunderstanding what i have said now or in the past relating to the topic. And no i am not taking this as an attack. I'll try to explain myself clearly so there is no misunderstanding.

Firstly my post in no way means that Sophia will not hesitate to talk about the details. But if the conversation is written well it will be possible to write such a situation without needing alcohol. Driving a conversation from a completely innocent topic to a sexual one requires a decent writing and L&P has done it in a good number of events.

Second, i never ever said past events don't impact future events. Infact i have myself said that the past events together have had a huge impact on Sophia till now. She is much more willing to divulge Sexual information and to do sexual things with others. What i said was that it is near impossible for L&P to accommodate for all possibilities and hence he tries to avoid intertwining other routes too much.

But in this case what i have said is that Sophia will remember all her past events with Dylan while playing the Dylan route. Because you won't have the next Dylan event without the past events.
Similarly while playing the Sam route Sophia remembers Everything she has done with Sam.
In the Ellie route she remembers kissing in the shower, masturbating with her, kissing Patricia and Julia. She will not forget that.
Sophia may or may not recall the events of the other routes, depending on the players choice of routes, but she will definitely remember what she did with a particular character in the past.
The structure of the game is built on the very idea, that if a past event with a character does not happen then nothing else can happen with them in the future.

Like for Sam, if Sophia never showed her areolas nothing would start, if she didn't form a bond with him, she would never go to his performance, if she never went to his performance she would never get to be in the Jaccuzi with Sam and if she never made out with Sam in the Jaccuzi she would not be going to Sam's house as she is in the next update.
This principle applies to all routes.

L&P would occasionally give a flashback reminiscent of an event, it would be nice.

 

[tom-poolman]

My mom was a hot milf

send us some pictures of her

 

[Sabertooth__]

send us some pictures of her

I agree we are on a porn game forum but this might be a little inappropriate to ask for.

 

[Hlextor]

send us some pictures of her

I agree we are on a porn game forum but this might be a little inappropriate to ask for.

why "was",not"is"? So is my cousin. She is now 43 years old.

I said she was a hot milf! When I was 16/17, she was the same age as Sophia. However, we had a "normal" mother/son relationship! ... now I'm old

 

[Sabertooth__]

I said she was a hot milf! When I was 16/17, she was the same age as Sophia. However, we had a "normal" mother/son relationship! ... now I'm old

The way you emphasize normal gets me thinking and suspecting something is off

 

[SophiaLovesDylan]

Some players here believe Dylan's sex education is a real progress with Sophia. From PD 1 to 13, whatever tiny bit of progress between Sophia and that Frodo Dylan had progressed, Sophia admitted that from Sophia's point of view, it was only for educational purposes that I did with Dylan. Sophia has not done any sexual stuff with Dylan willingly. Sophia is only seeing Dylan for educational purposes, Sophia has not yet developed any sexual or romantic feelings for Dylan.

Frodo/pygmy Dylan has no experience with girls so Sophia takes a little pity on Dylan. that's why, Sophia does some sexual things with Dylan, that's all. That too she does only with pure sexual motive. Sophia tries to solve it with Dylan in the same way as she solved it with the 3 shota kids in an educational way.

My boy Sam is the real hero of this AWAM and the only one who has made real progress with Sophia. that's why, sophia loves sam very much and wants to see sam in liam's place in her life. Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. For that Sophia has a romantic relationship with Sam. But Sophia tries to solve it in pure educational way with Dylan. Poor shota kid Frodo Dylan.


Go My Boy Sam, Make Sophia yours before that little shit Dylan's turn.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Okay, i believe you are gravely misunderstanding what i have said now or in the past relating to the topic. And no i am not taking this as an attack. I'll try to explain myself clearly so there is no misunderstanding.

Firstly my post in no way means that Sophia will not hesitate to talk about the details. But if the conversation is written well it will be possible to write such a situation without needing alcohol. Driving a conversation from a completely innocent topic to a sexual one requires a decent writing and L&P has done it in a good number of events.

Second, i never ever said past events don't impact future events. Infact i have myself said that the past events together have had a huge impact on Sophia till now. She is much more willing to divulge Sexual information and to do sexual things with others. What i said was that it is near impossible for L&P to accommodate for all possibilities and hence he tries to avoid intertwining other routes too much.

But in this case what i have said is that Sophia will remember all her past events with Dylan while playing the Dylan route. Because you won't have the next Dylan event without the past events.
Similarly while playing the Sam route Sophia remembers Everything she has done with Sam.
In the Ellie route she remembers kissing in the shower, masturbating with her, kissing Patricia and Julia. She will not forget that.
Sophia may or may not recall the events of the other routes, depending on the players choice of routes, but she will definitely remember what she did with a particular character in the past.
The structure of the game is built on the very idea, that if a past event with a character does not happen then nothing else can happen with them in the future.

Like for Sam, if Sophia never showed her areolas nothing would start, if she didn't form a bond with him, she would never go to his performance, if she never went to his performance she would never get to be in the Jaccuzi with Sam and if she never made out with Sam in the Jaccuzi she would not be going to Sam's house as she is in the next update.
This principle applies to all routes.

I think that there are several ways to view each of the events:

* Each is like a drop of rain, landing on a dry surface, slowly wetting that surface and changing it, but no raindrop is connected to the other, they are all just part of the same storm.

* Each event is a new pearl added to the pearl strand representing each unique route - the pearls are intended to fit together in sequence and there is a specific pattern in how they are arranged.

Each pearl tells a small part of the story, but taken together, they tell a broader story starting with the first pearl and continuing up to the latest pearl added to the strand.

I see the different paths as strands of pearls.

Some pearls may exist on multiple strands of pearls, but the way they are sequenced, and the unique pearls added through time create different strands of pearls - different stories.

These strands have at their center, some common characteristics, the presence of Sophia, Ellie and/or Dylan, but all three are not common to each pearl on every strand.

As to the storytelling to get Sophia to tell Dylan about her first sexual experience (and Sophia's continuing evolution in how she sees Dylan - more and more as a man and less and less as 'just' a son), I believe that L&P will be able to write this part of the story well enough for this aspect of the relationship evolution to be believable.

I did not know how he was going to turn the Sophia visit from 'stop Sam' to 'Sam, don't stop' but the last teaser with Sam on top of Sophia tickling her showed the way.

We have not seen any of the teasers for the Sophia/Dylan events yet, but when we do, I think this part of the story will become acceptable canon for those on the Sophia/Dylan path in AWAM.

 

[Cid Kagenō]

Some players here believe Dylan's sex education is a real progress with Sophia. From PD 1 to 13, whatever tiny bit of progress between Sophia and that Frodo Dylan had progressed, Sophia admitted that from Sophia's point of view, it was only for educational purposes that I did with Dylan. Sophia has not done any sexual stuff with Dylan willingly. Sophia is only seeing Dylan for educational purposes, Sophia has not yet developed any sexual or romantic feelings for Dylan.

Frodo/pygmy Dylan has no experience with girls so Sophia takes a little pity on Dylan. that's why, Sophia does some sexual things with Dylan, that's all. That too she does only with pure sexual motive. Sophia tries to solve it with Dylan in the same way as she solved it with the 3 shota kids in an educational way.

My boy Sam is the real hero of this AWAM and the only one who has made real progress with Sophia. that's why, sophia loves sam very much and wants to see sam in liam's place in her life. Sophia loves sam more than Dylan. For that Sophia has a romantic relationship with Sam. But Sophia tries to solve it in pure educational way with Dylan. Poor shota kid Frodo Dylan.


Go My Boy Sam, Make Sophia yours before that little shit Dylan's turn.

No, Dylan is a real hero. He will fuck all MILFs. Sophia Patricia Amber wants Dylan's dick.

 

[Cid Kagenō]

He's only a hero if he gets her mother pregnant and his father finds out about his incest with her

He'll be a hero for sure. If Lust & Passion cares about Dylan's fans.