VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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People's really coming out to a porn game expecting morals,logic , realism and all

Even movies containing real actors doesn't have much logic in it

It's a game of 3d rendered character's with 18+ content, generally for fap and sexual fantasies treat it like one

If you want logical stories go read books and visual novels
Ofcourse any artist who has a popular series or game going on will try to prolong the main content for long to earn money , no idiot will just give you main course at starting , he knows everyone is waiting for it and will keep coming even after 100s of bait

Even pornhwa artists do the same

Don't come here with your bullshits that story is boring, it's taking too long and all
He is doing everything right from a creator's point and the ones paying for it are not complaining that much for Sophia sex scenes

It's a porn game , "PORN GAME"
 
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There are aspects of this game that are very good but script wise not so much and as I have said before"enjoy the game but leave your brain at home".
Maybe I am being too critical of this game but prt 1 even with all its fault was enjoyable but this is now a different game from what is once was and this makes me.
I do remember some of your posts and at times we have agreed with one another but we have always been polite with each other even when we don't agree.
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Dialogue is too wordy, a lot of the time I get bored reading it and click through fast.

I do think now the most significant thing L&P could do to speed up updates is cut down the dialogue in scenes and he wouldn't have to create so many renders then. He really doesn't need as much dialogue to explain what is going on in scenes and therefore it would cut down the amount of renders needed. He seems to match renders to specific dialogue which I understand and agree with him doing, but he has so much dialogue that it then increases renders totals and increases production time.
 
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Have no fear we will see a remake of the Sam event and Dylan part 1 very soon. I'm only excited because lp gave us something relatively new in that besides water we might get food introduced with water
 
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I liked this scene - Liam Finally had a chance to do a little something lewd - so Yeah - I had Liam peek - Bad Boy...

Cathy is a Hottie and trying on the wedding dresses makes this scene even better.

Perhaps in the 2040's when we get the swinging scene with Liam/Sophia & Andy/Cathy, Liam will actually get something more! ;)
 
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XaGnard said:
I think it's important that we all keep it fair, and not expect too much from a porn game. Even with some really major oddities (like Aiden, and the gangster scene with the pistol, etc.), AWAM story is still much better than almost all other games here. Especially considering the core characters (like Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patrica, etc.), L&P has done a good job of using the slow burn to portray characteristics and motivation not only of Sophia, but also the people she interacts with most. Now the question remains whether L&P will also succeed in bringing these characters through a progression in an exciting and comprehensible way. So far I like L&P's approach in this respect (apart from some side stories and Aiden). At the same time, it has to be said that the story is just beginning to unfold and the difficult part is yet to come.

Perhaps it makes sense to illustrate this with a concrete example. I played through "HerDesire" as an example for a game with similar setting as AWAM, and here I could see quite clearly how big the differences in quality really is (not only in terms of graphics). HerDesire virtually rushes through the story and loses all the excitement and possible entanglements that would make up a good story. An example of this is Parker, who in this game is the equivalent to Dylan, and in one scene kisses his mother while her husband interrupts them without noticing anything. At first glance, the whole event sounds like it could have been written by L&P (who also prefers this kind of interruption). But since all the characters in this game go along with everything at every opportunity, without even the slightest doubt, it seems downright artificial that in this situation, the mother would have to keep something secret. The game is so shallow that it doesn't even allow for any excitement. It is more or less a corruption story without any corruption and characteers who all are emotionless. If you compare AWAM with something like this, which is still above the average of what others deliver here, it becomes clear pretty quickly how good AWAM is (at least fo far).
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According to you, AWAM has been building characters for over six years, and after six years, "that the story is just beginning to unfold and the difficult part is yet to come."

And after 6 years, this developer has this game is too old, changed the video in the plane, changed the initial settings of the characters, and made a past that didn't exist.

No game should ever do this and no player would want to do this.
 
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roro said:
There are many reasons to facepalm his (tofhdns) posts. If he were a reasonable guy and wouldn't call stupid to others who has different views, maybe I would have explained it in detail.
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The time I've called someone 'stupid' is when he says wealth is not wealth or when he spoke as if every country's base currency should be the dollar.

At that time, I explained rationally, but he insisted on nonsense to protect the developer.
 
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tofhdns said:
According to you, AWAM has been building characters for over six years, and after six years, "that the story is just beginning to unfold and the difficult part is yet to come."
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On the basis of the classic three-act structure, which I simply assume, AWAM is now clearly in the second act (development). Here, in my opinion, we are still at the very beginning and it will be some time before the story really comes to an end (solution or disaster of the story). However, it should be clear to everyone here that L&P spent a lot of time on the exposition of the characters and the basic stettings. I think there is little to discuss here and if you have a problem with the time investment, then you are certainly not alone, because I also think that L&P is bad at project management.

tofhdns said:
And after 6 years, this developer has this game is too old, changed the video in the plane, changed the initial settings of the characters, and made a past that didn't exist.

No game should ever do this and no player would want to do this.
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Where do you see a change in AWAM setting?!? The point I was trying to make is that in a good story, the characters going through changes based on the story ( beased on the challenges that have to be overcome in the story). For Sophia, this certainly includes her curruption. But all this is part of the story and not a change of setting. Sorry, either I have completely misunderstood you or you are talking nonsense.
 
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XaGnard said:
On the basis of the classic three-act structure, which I simply assume, AWAM is now clearly in the second act (development). Here, in my opinion, we are still at the very beginning and it will be some time before the story really comes to an end (solution or disaster of the story). However, it should be clear to everyone here that L&P spent a lot of time on the exposition of the characters and the basic stettings. I think there is little to discuss here and if you have a problem with the time investment, then you are certainly not alone, because I also think that L&P is bad at project management.

Where do you see a change in AWAM setting?!? The point I was trying to make is that in a good story, the characters going through changes based on the story ( beased on the challenges that have to be overcome in the story). For Sophia, this certainly includes her curruption. But all this is part of the story and not a change of setting. Sorry, either I have completely misunderstood you or you are talking nonsense.
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I agree with you that the story of the game has moved on to the next branch.

But, the period was too long. (more than 6 years)

He also abruptly put Sofia's past in because he felt limited in advancing the story. (my feel)

As a result, Sophia, who had been "the daughter of a wealthy, conservative scholarly family living in a small town," became a poor, impulsive, promiscuous woman.

This is a setting change.

Dylan went from a kid who couldn't fight but was just, to a kid who was good at fighting but cheated on his mother.
Also, he was a naive kid who had difficulty approaching girls, but he changed into a kid who receives interest from various girls and knows the nightlife.

This is also a setting change.

This isn't growth, it's discarding the initial settings.

Six years is the period in which a drama can come out until season 3 or 4.
This game is old enough that the developer wanted to change the start date of the game from 2017 to 2020.

This developer should have started years ago with whatever he was going to do, including changing the settings.
 
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addition:

When there was no flashback of Sophia.
she was a woman who fell in love with her first love, Liam, at a relatively young age, became pregnant and married. (many people would have thought so)

When Sofia's flashbacks appear.
she was promiscuous from her childhood, that she had sex with several men, and that she had sex with Liam, and when she became pregnant, she became the woman who married him.

The two are completely different in content and feel.

There's a reason so many people complained when the flashbacks appeared, saying, "Sophia turned into a whore."
 
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tofhdns said:
addition:

When there was no flashback of Sophia.
she was a woman who fell in love with her first love, Liam, at a relatively young age, became pregnant and married. (many people would have thought so)

When Sofia's flashbacks appear.
she was promiscuous from her childhood, that she had sex with several men, and that she had sex with Liam, and when she became pregnant, she became the woman who married him.

The two are completely different in content and feel.

There's a reason so many people complained when the flashbacks appeared, saying, "Sophia turned into a whore."
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Completely exaggerated! Sophia is portrayed as a normal young woman who enjoys the freedoms of the 20th/21st century. I have yet to see anything from Sophia's youth for which Sophia deserves the label "whore".
 
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