VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[tofhdns]

Completely exaggerated! Sophia is portrayed as a normal young woman who enjoys the freedoms of the 20th/21st century. I have yet to see anything from Sophia's youth for which Sophia deserves the label "whore".

I admit that it was an exaggeration.
But it was such a shock and a betrayal.

 

[sssaam.cindy.2019]

I think someone else did the renders there and just slapped a youth story then got bored and finished quickly... let me suck my friend's dad cock ... so like Sophia

I admit that it was an exaggeration.
But it was such a shock and a betrayal.

 

[Golden Trump]

I once had a dream...
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It will come true, maybe by Christmas 2040 at the earliest.

 

[tofhdns]

I think someone else did the renders there and just slapped a youth story then got bored and finished quickly... let me suck my friend's dad cock ... so like Sophia

yes.

I think he realized at some point that he couldn't continue the story this way.
Or I think there must have been pressure from sponsors.

But his methods are so wrong.

Like I've said many times, he delayed the story too much and piled it on too much, so he ended up driving himself into a corner, and as he admits, he can't handle this anymore.

He should have started years ago what he was about to do now.

If he did, he wouldn't have done anything to change Sofia's past, and he would have been able to make Dylan's growing up (the changing process) convincing enough. not Dylan's setting change.

Also, even without the flashbacks, it would have been convincing enough for Sophia to change her behavior after moving to the big city. if had the principal or Neil pressured her a little more, if had progressed her relationship with Larry a little more, if had Sam and Sophia had sex.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Progress Report Ver. 0.190.

100% - 95% - 60%
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what's the fucking problem with that 5% render?

 

[菊花献给党]

Is it possible for September

 

[arifarfi]

it seems L&P wake up his dreams and get back to work.
Nice news.
Keep Going Man...

 

[Mortem67888]

Any other interesting game suggestions?

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

Any other interesting game suggestions?

True_Bond

 

[RUSSIAN MAFIA]

Purely theory (fantasy)! Sofia's scene at the Jacuzzi! The cunning dick Dylan, as usual, persuades Mom to take a refreshing bath (Jacuzzi). Dylan begs (begs) take off her underwear.... As usual, Sofia is wrong, we shouldn't and so on and so forth.... Suddenly she notices a dim light on the house (which is on a tree). It turns out that all this time, Sam was watching them.... Since Sofia likes to tease Sam, she starts to slowly take them off (showing a little show for Sam! ). At some point, Sam loses consciousness and falls.... They hear a noise and run to see what happened....While Dylan walks around the yard looking for noise, Sofia climbs the stairs to the tree house and sees Sam lying with a dick in his hands... And since they were completely naked in the Jacuzzi, this means that Sofia is standing completely naked on the stairs, then an epic view opens up from behind ..... And there are tons of options.... phaaaaah for taste and color! .... Her whole ass is at Dylan's disposal, and her mouth and hands are at Sam's disposal!

 

[Rajesh Ram]

Any other interesting game suggestions?

No more money , Life in Santa country , Away from home, Monkey Business.

 

[E = mc^2]

what's the fucking problem with that 5% render?

It's a reason if required.

 

[S.t.s]

This update has no value because even though it doesn't have any animation, it has passed so much time, I think it's time for the members of this game to ban it, so that maybe the developer would be disciplined a little, if he also abandons the game, it's not a problem Because firstly, there are many beautiful games with excellent progress and secondly, with this progress that this game has, 10 centuries will not end. This developer is very annoying.

 

[BigBrotherrrr]

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Best scene in the entire game

What is happening here?

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

what's the fucking problem with that 5% render?

A safety buffer to lure his imbecile enablers to the max.

 

[XaGnard]

I agree with you that the story of the game has moved on to the next branch.

But, the period was too long. (more than 6 years)

He also abruptly put Sofia's past in because he felt limited in advancing the story. (my feel)

As a result, Sophia, who had been "the daughter of a wealthy, conservative scholarly family living in a small town," became a poor, impulsive, promiscuous woman.

This is a setting change.

Dylan went from a kid who couldn't fight but was just, to a kid who was good at fighting but cheated on his mother.
Also, he was a naive kid who had difficulty approaching girls, but he changed into a kid who receives interest from various girls and knows the nightlife.

This is also a setting change.

This isn't growth, it's discarding the initial settings.

Six years is the period in which a drama can come out until season 3 or 4.
This game is old enough that the developer wanted to change the start date of the game from 2017 to 2020.

This developer should have started years ago with whatever he was going to do, including changing the settings.

It is not uncommon in story telling to break the timeline through flashbacks (in this case, through memories). But this is not a break with the setting, it is simply a storytelling element. I can't remember if Sophia said anything at the beginning of the story that contradicted the flashback. However, the conditions you mentioned could very well fit into a coherent story, considering that Sophia started her own household with Liam and this may not have been easy financially in the beginning.

The transformation of Dylan is very much part of the story (with the combat training) but does not fit at all with the idea of the game days. If L&P had spread the story over maybe a in game year, then the whole thing could have fit at least halfway. It's a too-fast transition based on Dylan's development in the story, but not a change of setting.

As I said, I think L&P is bad at project planning. AWAM simply needs far too much time for the development. That this should have an impact on the story is, in my opinion, unavoidable, since initially many planned contents should be omitted to speed up the development. I wish L&P would even go further here and take certain side stories, such as Aiden's, out of the game. For me, the story is mostly tied around Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Liam, Patricia, etc. Here lies the potential and the core of the story.

 

[Kirill86]

What is happening here?

peeping

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

The problem with AWAM is that he presented Sophia as a boundary oriented woman, thoughful, not light headed, with a strong frame. And that is what blocks him, that is why the flashback was a big mistake.

The Sophia with values and frame, would never fuck her friends dad. Im not talking about her as a virgin, or a slut, or that shit conversation, or having her premarital sex or not. We are talking about having dates and sex with your friends DAD, that is something the Sophia we knew wouldnt had done, so either the S1 Sophia was a fraud and we are angy on her and feel betrayed by the author because he made us lost our time, or the flashback was a stupid mistake because he improvised something to force the story forward and didn't worked.

The main problem with AWAM is not excesive characters, that is only a problem if you expect her to have sex with everyone. He can clarify that Sophia is not going to have sex with everyone and leave that to the fan made side of things. It is not excesive branches, if those branches were high quality, we would be enjoying the journey, but because it is not enjoyable anymore, there is a general novel ending anxiety that works for his pocket but not for the AWAM story at all.

The main problem is that he is trying to make her have sex in a REALISTIC way (this is very important) with underdeveloped teenagers through a 1000 concessions, and that is not going to work, no matter how creative he becomes in the setting for the "corruption" process. There is a point were things get ridiculous, the Cello scene was embarrasing if you think about it from a 40 yo woman's perspective (it might not if you think the virgin teenager boy dream). Imagine you are the woman, and you are there, naked infront of a 15yo guy with her mother outside and you stop doing the horrible sounds of the first six months of clasical instrument training, it is embarrasing. The same is going to happen with the club scene in the next update, imagine a 40yo woman, walking through a club with a 15yo kid close to her (dont ask me how he was allowed to get in...), and 25/35 handsome men walking around, the situation is embarrasing, not arousing.

As people had pointed, Sophia is 40ish at 2020, that means that she turns on tv and she sees the fucking Chris Hemsworth playing Thor, or Zac Effront, or olimpic swimmers. Then she walks away and in real life she watches men like the janitor, the mover, DeShawn, Bennet, and handsome people she casually walks by. There is no way she could find attractive underdeveloped teenagers, imagine a 15yo guy naked close to a real man, how ridiculous that looks like.

Sophia story should inmediately quit the kids mistake, corrupt her through an interesting adults journey, and then, if you score all the corruption points, and you break all her frame and her boundaries through adults experiences, maybe, given the right circunstances at the right moment, she could have a mistake with the young teenagers. The other way around, well, you would better play this one, is more fun... Mira

A hint, a woman like Sophia, before cheating would go on her husband 100% hints like "fuck me TONIGHT!", if that doesn't work and she internalise having extramarital sex, she would cheat away from the family, because protecting the family is one of her core values (this is partially why the neightbours Cello thing was REALLY stupid). She would go clubbing and met someone there from the other side of the city, or she would have a casual affair in the sauna with an unknown guy, or she would date a father with a kid with no remote relationship with his son and her daughter, or she would have a casual affair at the gym where she goes alone, etc... She would never cheat with someone around her family initially, but then, once the wheel starts to move, maybe things get out of bounds.

The problem with AWAM is L&P

 

[tofhdns]

It is not uncommon in story telling to break the timeline through flashbacks (in this case, through memories). But this is not a break with the setting, it is simply a storytelling element. I can't remember if Sophia said anything at the beginning of the story that contradicted the flashback. However, the conditions you mentioned could very well fit into a coherent story, considering that Sophia started her own household with Liam and this may not have been easy financially in the beginning.

The transformation of Dylan is very much part of the story (with the combat training) but does not fit at all with the idea of the game days. If L&P had spread the story over maybe a in game year, then the whole thing could have fit at least halfway. It's a too-fast transition based on Dylan's development in the story, but not a change of setting.

As I said, I think L&P is bad at project planning. AWAM simply needs far too much time for the development. That this should have an impact on the story is, in my opinion, unavoidable, since initially many planned contents should be omitted to speed up the development. I wish L&P would even go further here and take certain side stories, such as Aiden's, out of the game. For me, the story is mostly tied around Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Liam, Patricia, etc. Here lies the potential and the core of the story.

This is something everyone knows and you know it too.

Sofia had never modeled in the past.
But, a flashback scene came out as a model activity.

She is "the daughter of a wealthy, educated family living in a small town," and she was a university professor who was good at arts and sports and had a good basic education.
But because of this flashback, all of this has become obsolete.

Because of this, it is not a game to see Sophia's process of her corruption, but became a game to explore how her Sofia's past has affected her in the present.

People used to wonder if Sophia's parents would have an incestuous situation when they visited, but now they wonder what Sophia's parents will tell them about her secret.

People used to expect Patricia to have some influence on Sophia, but now they expect Patricia to know about Sofia's past.

The focus has changed.

It probably only took a day or two for Dylan to become good at fighting.
This is an extremely short period of time, but could say 'growth'.

But why did he steal Sophia's money?
He could have just asked for it.
(Of course, there was also a 'twist' that was deleted.)

He was a naive kid who was afraid of women.
How does he know a nightclub, a restaurant, a rooftop lounge?
(Of course he can know. You know that when I say "know" I mean something else.)

He should have had the freshness of the first date.
Nightclubs and rooftop lounges are by no means beginner's routes.

Growth requires a process of stepping on the stairs.
These are not growth, but settings have changed.
What was the process? no.

 

[sphynks80]

The problem with AWAM is that he presented Sophia as a boundary oriented woman, thoughful, not light headed, with a strong frame. And that is what blocks him, that is why the flashback was a big mistake.

The Sophia with values and frame, would never fuck her friends dad. Im not talking about her as a virgin, or a slut, or that shit conversation, or having her premarital sex or not. We are talking about having dates and sex with your friends DAD, that is something the Sophia we knew wouldnt had done, so either the S1 Sophia was a fraud and we are angy on her and feel betrayed by the author because he made us lost our time, or the flashback was a stupid mistake because he improvised something to force the story forward and didn't worked.

The main problem with AWAM is not excesive characters, that is only a problem if you expect her to have sex with everyone. He can clarify that Sophia is not going to have sex with everyone and leave that to the fan made side of things. It is not excesive branches, if those branches were high quality, we would be enjoying the journey, but because it is not enjoyable anymore, there is a general novel ending anxiety that works for his pocket but not for the AWAM story at all.

The main problem is that he is trying to make her have sex in a REALISTIC way (this is very important) with underdeveloped teenagers through a 1000 concessions, and that is not going to work, no matter how creative he becomes in the setting for the "corruption" process. There is a point were things get ridiculous, the Cello scene was embarrasing if you think about it from a 40 yo woman's perspective (it might not if you think the virgin teenager boy dream). Imagine you are the woman, and you are there, naked infront of a 15yo guy with her mother outside and you stop doing the horrible sounds of the first six months of clasical instrument training, it is embarrasing. The same is going to happen with the club scene in the next update, imagine a 40yo woman, walking through a club with a 15yo kid close to her (dont ask me how he was allowed to get in...), and 25/35 handsome men walking around, the situation is embarrasing, not arousing.

As people had pointed, Sophia is 40ish at 2020, that means that she turns on tv and she sees the fucking Chris Hemsworth playing Thor, or Zac Effront, or olimpic swimmers. Then she walks away and in real life she watches men like the janitor, the mover, DeShawn, Bennet, and handsome people she casually walks by. There is no way she could find attractive underdeveloped teenagers, imagine a 15yo guy naked close to a real man, how ridiculous that looks like.

Sophia story should inmediately quit the kids mistake, corrupt her through an interesting adults journey, and then, if you score all the corruption points, and you break all her frame and her boundaries through adults experiences, maybe, given the right circunstances at the right moment, she could have a mistake with the young teenagers. The other way around, well, you would better play this one, is more fun... Mira

A hint, a woman like Sophia, before cheating would go on her husband 100% hints like "fuck me TONIGHT!", if that doesn't work and she internalise having extramarital sex, she would cheat away from the family, because protecting the family is one of her core values (this is partially why the neightbours Cello thing was REALLY stupid). She would go clubbing and met someone there from the other side of the city, or she would have a casual affair in the sauna with an unknown guy, or she would date a father with a kid with no remote relationship with his son and her daughter, or she would have a casual affair at the gym where she goes alone, etc... She would never cheat with someone around her family initially, but then, once the wheel starts to move, maybe things get out of bounds.

The problem with AWAM is that he presented Sophia as a boundary oriented woman, thoughful, not light headed, with a strong frame. And that is what blocks him, that is why the flashback was a big mistake.

The Sophia with values and frame, would never fuck her friends dad. Im not talking about her as a virgin, or a slut, or that shit conversation, or having her premarital sex or not. We are talking about having dates and sex with your friends DAD, that is something the Sophia we knew wouldnt had done, so either the S1 Sophia was a fraud and we are angy on her and feel betrayed by the author because he made us lost our time, or the flashback was a stupid mistake because he improvised something to force the story forward and didn't worked.

The main problem with AWAM is not excesive characters, that is only a problem if you expect her to have sex with everyone. He can clarify that Sophia is not going to have sex with everyone and leave that to the fan made side of things. It is not excesive branches, if those branches were high quality, we would be enjoying the journey, but because it is not enjoyable anymore, there is a general novel ending anxiety that works for his pocket but not for the AWAM story at all.

The main problem is that he is trying to make her have sex in a REALISTIC way (this is very important) with underdeveloped teenagers through a 1000 concessions, and that is not going to work, no matter how creative he becomes in the setting for the "corruption" process. There is a point were things get ridiculous, the Cello scene was embarrasing if you think about it from a 40 yo woman's perspective (it might not if you think the virgin teenager boy dream). Imagine you are the woman, and you are there, naked infront of a 15yo guy with her mother outside and you stop doing the horrible sounds of the first six months of clasical instrument training, it is embarrasing. The same is going to happen with the club scene in the next update, imagine a 40yo woman, walking through a club with a 15yo kid close to her (dont ask me how he was allowed to get in...), and 25/35 handsome men walking around, the situation is embarrasing, not arousing.

As people had pointed, Sophia is 40ish at 2020, that means that she turns on tv and she sees the fucking Chris Hemsworth playing Thor, or Zac Effront, or olimpic swimmers. Then she walks away and in real life she watches men like the janitor, the mover, DeShawn, Bennet, and handsome people she casually walks by. There is no way she could find attractive underdeveloped teenagers, imagine a 15yo guy naked close to a real man, how ridiculous that looks like.

Sophia story should inmediately quit the kids mistake, corrupt her through an interesting adults journey, and then, if you score all the corruption points, and you break all her frame and her boundaries through adults experiences, maybe, given the right circunstances at the right moment, she could have a mistake with the young teenagers. The other way around, well, you would better play this one, is more fun... Mira

A hint, a woman like Sophia, before cheating would go on her husband 100% hints like "fuck me TONIGHT!", if that doesn't work and she internalise having extramarital sex, she would cheat away from the family, because protecting the family is one of her core values (this is partially why the neightbours Cello thing was REALLY stupid). She would go clubbing and met someone there from the other side of the city, or she would have a casual affair in the sauna with an unknown guy, or she would date a father with a kid with no remote relationship with his son and her daughter, or she would have a casual affair at the gym where she goes alone, etc... She would never cheat with someone around her family initially, but then, once the wheel starts to move, maybe things get out of bounds.

it may be that these pieces go together if we consider that it is a porn game and therefore in the end it follows a porn logic...