VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

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Bibifoc

Bibifoc

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palmtrees89 said:
What I meant with insight is more about a look behind closed curtains while L&P is still working on stuff instead of handing it to you when everything is done. BUT, if there's no other way then I guess that part of my post was just wrong.
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On this part, I don't see what he could tell/show me that could help me for the last phase.

But it also makes me question why you're not hired for the entire programming part as it sounds like you would handle it way better (and probably faster) than he does, which in return would result in less bugs, a smoother testing phase and faster progression in general as he could spend time on other things (DAZ Library for next update to name one example). I mean, maybe you don't have the time or he just doesn't want to hand it out like that, I can't tell and that's none of my business anyway, but I'm just sitting here shaking my head when looking at the output this year and the realization that if this is the new norm, a finished product is now 50+ years away, and that is without his plans for Steam. What's next? In 2024 the estimates go up to 70+ years?
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First don't get me wrong. What L&P does works. It's just that he may have some bad habits and I'm trying to keep things consistent.

With other devs, it sometimes works differently. I'm given a nearly Renpy script. For example this:
Code: 
# insert music blabla
# bird background
scene xxx with dissolve
s "blabla"
dy "blabla"
scene yyy # show a scrolling from bottom to top
if sophia has sex with Liam previously
    s "blabla"
else:
    s "blabla"
It's a totally untested written on the fly with similar Renpy code. Some comments are added to tell the coder what to do. So for example in the 2 first line above, the writer/artist doesn't lose time to search for what music files are really named. He just gives a hint. In the final "if", he says what test he wants but don't bother to search for the right variable.

So the coder have to replace these comments with real code, fix the numerous codes errors, test the whole and get the script back to the writer/artist for final testing.

But usually there are more than one scene. The writer gives you one scene, you code it while he writes another scene... or something close. In AWAM there is one big scene. I don't know if there is that much to gain this way. In my mind, there is more to gain on the translation part.. but I think I saw you say that this part didn't exist because it was nonsense to work in this way :p

I said it a couple days ago, but why not atleast hire an editor (photoshopping) and/or writer? You or whoever else fit for the job to do the programming part. He always acts as if he's trying to find help, when especially these roles can be filled quite easily as it doesn't require for him to work with another artist on his renders, which is what he always makes out to be the impossible thing for various reasons, just to bring it up months or a year later again, and again....without anything happening, except for him getting slower. He could probably push out twice as much content if he had these roles filled.
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Personally I think he really tried/tries to hire people. Hard enough? I don't know. He has a ""plan"". What does that mean? Nobody knows.
In some other games, I see one guy handling the management part. I really think L&P could benefit this type of job on AWAM.
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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PietruccioTheHilander said:
Did Bibifoc become like Onyxdime with icstor?
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Bibifoc said:
A hint for me perhaps? :unsure:
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Bibifoc said:
And nobody's going to tell me what that means, of course. :cautious:
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On the Milfy City F95 board, Onyxdime told them that Isctor was working hard on Milfy City's final version after two years, and he is working with him on the story arcs and that it would be released soon, back in April 2023. Oxyndime told people there would be no delays, and everything was good for an April release. Then, at the end of April, there was no release for Milfy City. Now May, June, and July pass, and still no release. Onyndime tried to play it off by not responding to comments he made and started making excuses or acting like he never said anything.

PietruccioTheHilander is implying the possibility of similar traits that he sees with you and L&P in some of your comments. That's what he means.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
On the Milfy City F95 board, Onyxdime told them that Isctor was working hard on Milfy City's final version after two years, and he is working with him on the story arcs and that it would be released soon, back in April 2023. Oxyndime told people there would be no delays, and everything was good for an April release. Then, at the end of April, there was no release for Milfy City. Now May, June, and July pass, and still no release. Onyndime tried to play it off by not responding to comments he made and started making excuses or acting like he never said anything.

PietruccioTheHilander is implying the possibility of similar traits that he sees with you and L&P in some of your comments. That's what he means.
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How the hell does ICSTOR still have over 5,000 patrons when he hasn’t updated game in 2 years?
 
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Bibifoc said:
It wasn't really bad. It was just the first time my name was mentionned while L&P was waiting for me on the testing phase. There were some pitchforks things... for joking... I guess :eek:
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Wait a second where's my torch? Anybody seen my torch? C'mon guys.......
 
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Bibifoc said:
On this part, I don't see what he could tell/show me that could help me for the last phase.
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That's not what I meant. I'm implying that you could possibly be seeing things he doesn't want you to see. Speaking of time spent working on the game among other things. For example why development is continually getting slower while L&P still acts like he's working 12 hours a day without enough time to take care of personal stuff, when he's likely just working less. Or in other words; I doubt he's just working slower every year, but rather less hours for whatever reason one may assume.

And that is while taking into consideration how render quality has increased compared to 2019+2020 for example, but especially the past 2 years there is no improvement to be seen that would justify such a massive reduction in renders per year.

That one certainly isn't speculation as the amount of renders he creates is declining by roughly 20-30% every single year for the past ~3 years, if not longer. 2023 is once again gonna end up with less renders compared to 2022, and render quality clearly isn't the reason for that. Something just isn't right as things have always gone downhill, never up.
 
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armion82 said:
Years ago,before Covid,there was devs making thousands even with no release in more than 3 years.
So nothing new.
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5000 patrons still support him, believe it. Half of those patrons are being deceived, or being mislead.
 
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