RPGM Abyss of Pleasure [v0.2.6 Remastered] [Jpegsama]

[SasugaRyzeSama]

It's just so he has an excuse to prolong the development of the game. Unnecessary remakes/remasters/reworks of unfinished games seems to be the newest tactic in the arsenal of Patreon/SubscribeStar/Boosty hustlers.

Straight up untrue.
One of the first posts of the guy after releasing the draft of the game all this time back was about asking people for opinions and ideas about the game central mechanics - usual RPGmaker vs zelda-esque. He said many times through the development, from the very start, that he wants to make the gameplay (as in, the part where you actually play, not fap away) fun to play. And did change and introduce mechanics to help with that with... some success. The basic rpgmaker is not a grand design for engaging gameplay, rarely ever was, its mostly used for walking sim with scenes scattered here and there. If this is the way he wants to archieve that goal of his, well, good as any.

What I mean is, this decision does not feel like a simple cash grab, looking from the time perspective. The maps in game are way better looking than before, with lighting, parlax maps or whatever this is called, and the new scenes are consistently arriving, with (kinda) unrelated shining new pieces from time to time. It at least seems that the guy learns how to make game better, and tries to do so. For now, its not raising any real red flags, or get the feel of being milked for nothing, like LOQOO or evil goddes study cases are. If we are talking about milking tho, the new sub level...

Don't know who's the bigger clown. The dev or the supporters.

How about that one guy who supports, gets his nick into the credits of the porn game in which you fuck dogs, monsters, etc. (you get the idea), and his nick is his real name and surname. God, help him, he clearly can't help himself.

ok, I solemnly prefer the game before the remake, but on an absurd level prefer it before y'know, not bitching, just making a point

Me too, if we are talking gameplay-wise, the feel of fighting now is wayyy of, and kinda not responsive enough, if you get my meaning. But I must say, this way of playing is infinitely more engagning than "Hold z with command remember on to basically skip every battle", bc this is what it was before. It worked, if you came to the game for the scenes only, but it was glorified visual novel then, with loading bars eerily similar to "battles", as many rpgmaker games are made into that, galleries with annoyances along the way.

 

[naturaljunior]

wow this new version is much better!

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

wow this new version is much better!

Would you consider elaborating on the matter? For the amount of hate for the recent update from people (arguably justified so), and writing messages without any emotes whoatsoever being really bad in passing the intonation and facial gestures of the words intent, I am not sure if you are overly sarcastic or genuinly think its just way better overall than it was.

 

[Deleted member 4375502]

Any solution?

 

[Dom1anon]

Would you consider elaborating on the matter? For the amount of hate for the recent update from people (arguably justified so), and writing messages without any emotes whoatsoever being really bad in passing the intonation and facial gestures of the words intent, I am not sure if you are overly sarcastic or genuinly think its just way better overall than it was.

This is the dev's anonymous f95 account, right?

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

This is the dev's anonymous f95 account, right?

No, this is: Jpegsama, and not really that anonymous either. He wrote a message or two here somewhere.

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

He said many times through the development, from the very start, that he wants to make the gameplay (as in, the part where you actually play, not fap away) fun to play.

Ye, that might be true but I do enjoy my time fapping and playing but if I am engaged so much into the gameplay and I have no time to fap then this defeats the whole purpose of a porn game or not?
So what does he want to make? An adventure or a porn game?

Many diamonds in the H-game genres are basic turn based games.

Granted the gameplay video he posted doesn't look bad but the player opinions about the new system is crushing. I believe he would have been better of testing and polishing some more before release.

The version he had before was just fine though. Also its no wonder it raises brows making a "remaster/rebuild" of a game that is not even a year old.... which is also his only saving grace. The game in the state it was in really had nothing going on and imagine the shitstorm if he decided halfway through the game to change the core gameplay.

(I want to use the chance to hint at "Corruption of Champions" because exactly that happened and the shitstorm that followed was enormous and the playerbase is divided.)

I do agree with you that the maps are worlds better visually than before so thats that.

The basic rpgmaker is not a grand design for engaging gameplay, rarely ever was, its mostly used for walking sim with scenes scattered here and there. If this is the way he wants to archieve that goal of his, well, good as any.

It dont need to be. Its perfect for what its for.

 

[SpiderGamerXxx]

I don't really know what these fellas are on, I honestly feel like the game right now is fine.

I don't have any strong opinions since this is an alpha and absolutely unfinished one at that too.

I'll just share some thoughts,

I like the new combat tbh, I'm not really a big fan of turn based... unless it's actually somewhat interesting like Karryn's Prison or any of the sort interesting. The old one is just... literally every other turn based games so there isn't really much to go about here. While the new gameplay system is also pretty bland in it of itself, I can feel like he wants to do just more than what he's showing, just a matter of time.

Only nitpick I got about the new system is the stamina thing or whatsit and the awful lack of spells for the character being a supposed witch and that she starts out with a sword for a reason even though she's already an established witch. Starting out with magic spells would've been swell... or maybe she's not a very impressive witch so we'd get to that but either way the start sucks.

Every button hasn't been explained other than the ones we've been told about. I kinda wish he'd just keep some buttons hollow if there isn't a function for it yet. I was pressing some buttons on my keyboard and alluva sudden some shit pops up.

He cut way too much out of the old content like you being kept in the goblin burrow with you having the option to leave or get fucked, pretty unnecessary Imo. There was probably more but I'll just say that happened to quickly get the point across.

Read some of the comments like "This is just to milk the game" and honestly, I don't believe that a single bit, the dev seems to just want to try something new and create an entirely different game. I mean, for a game he's supposedly "milking the fuck out" there're still some new things that is pretty big for a game that he's "milking". The game just seems like it's going into the direction the dev wants and I'm here for it.

This game seems alright now, still don't like the proportions and the filter but I can live with it. The new version just needs a bit more of tweakings and whatnot and maybe the game would be alright.

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

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But that's my point exactly - the reaction itself is way overblown. It's first draft of a system, it's gonna be lacking, no one's Dante Alighieri to just try and get it right. Dev of Sinisistar 2 for half a year wrote in weekly devlogs that he tinkered with movement again and again because the first version of movement so fluid it was god-awful, like throwing paper balls at the wind. Dev here will propably take feedback and work on it, hopefully decreasing the cost of sprint, maybe just making it base movement, changing it for the dodge or something, and let upgrade stamina with level ups - he said it's inspired by souls, and in souls you can improve your stamina, so why not here.

Just some poeple (not everyone) instead of just criticizing changes, or saying their thoughts in "normal" manner go apeshit, like this is be-all-end-all change, now its lost forever, cursed to the depths of oblivion, gg fucked your mom bye. There's less scenes bc there is less context to put them in, they are still present in old version (still available to download on the page btw.), so really, nothing is lost, they are not decrypted in the game files so anyone can just go there and enjoy, no reason to even start the game if CGs are what you are after.

And again, the dev seems to just be doing what he thinks is best for the game, not fucking over people for money because he's greedy or evil or some shit. He remade all the scenes some versions ago in different, way less pixelated cg-y way EXPLICITLY because many people were bitching about them not being to their taste, which I myself found charming in their own uniqueness.

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

But that's my point exactly - the reaction itself is way overblown. It's first draft of a system, it's gonna be lacking, no one's Dante Alighieri to just try and get it right

It may not read like that but I also am under the impression that its too early to really judge the game. Early is the keyword here. The game was/is early in every aspect so lets wait and see.

or saying their thoughts in "normal" manner go apeshit, like this is be-all-end-all change, now its lost forever, cursed to the depths of oblivion, gg fucked your mom bye

That made me chuckle a bit

He remade all the scenes some versions ago in different, way less pixelated cg-y way EXPLICITLY because many people were bitching about them not being to their taste, which I myself found charming in their own uniqueness.

The filter was/is a unique take and gives the game its own flair but I also thought that it was pixelated too much. Even now I think it could be reduced just a tad more but it is what it is.
The game stays nonetheless on my watchlist.

 

[Joey_Boy]

Im on 60% keyboard am I able to keybind?

 

[Dr.Jean Pepper]

Just wanna know if the only way to get scenes is to lose fights or can you can get them by winning or other ways?

 

[aneame]

I believe this game has potential

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Just wanna know if the only way to get scenes is to lose fights or can you can get them by winning or other ways?

For now, only by losing. Except the still of herbalist overfucked by slimes - its part of the quest. There is no gallery if that's what you are asking.

Im on 60% keyboard am I able to keybind?

I'm afraid not.

 

[Dr.Jean Pepper]

For now, only by losing. Except the still of herbalist overfucked by slimes - its part of the quest. There is no gallery if that's what you are asking.


Wasn't asking for if there was gallery or not. Just was wondering if you can also get scenes from talking to characters and/or get them during combat and not just from losing. Not a fan of the "lose to see H-scenes" games so wanted to know before if the remastered changed it or not. Thanks for answering my question tho

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

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Oh, yeah, there is/was/will be(complicated) lot of those. Whoring yourself out in public, being sold as a slave, opening a chest with a suprise inside (a lot of cocks), serving as a bartender bunny girl, remembering the goblin rape of some unfortunate elf, giving head to a random on a street - there's quite a lot in previous version tbh, and they will eventually return in remastered version in due time. Dev wanted to do whole system for selling your ass as a prostitute, so there will be lots of ways to get the D without losing in a fight.

 

[nyarlathotep~]

Didn't tried the "remake" yet, but seeing this thread I assume it really divided opinions like a lot! A new update has been posted by the creator, could someone care to list the scenes it include so far please?

 

[GreatDictator]

For now let's sit back and wait what bro will cook. I think previous entery to plot was bad and this start was quite good and tragic. Imagine you are the last witch standing from your guild and those you fought alongside died turned into skeletons. It is tragic and horrifying. So good start but yeah combat system sucks ass

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Hey folks, new update rolled out some days ago, here's the stuff:

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The version 0.1.2 include those changes:

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[Zen0F1r5t]

Everytime I see an installer in this website, I always asked myself.

"Did you backup your save files? Did you save the list of mods you installed for your Terraria/MineCraft/Stardew Valley/etcetera etcetera....."

But, seriously. Isn't it more transparent to have a ".rar/.zip" or any archive format?