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Actually there is a change log with every version, so you can see what was being worked on. On the latest version v. 14 which is for patreons first an will be public a month after you can see for example a fixed save system, which was needed to be done first before anything. It's framework building and all inside mechanics, so it's normal to content be delivered very slow. In fact he worked long time for even 12 hours/day and now has health issues because of overwork. Would you be able to do something 12 hours a day? I doubt. The content is really not important at this stage since it can be added fast when everything will be working after a year or so.
The development plan is for entire 3 years and it's still 2 years to end, so yes it is somehow distant future.
Thing is, he comes up with these excuses to do something else a lot lately. First all this AI stuff, now this typescript conversion and also a lot of other small things. For me it seems like he constantly gets lost in these endeavors because he doesn't really enjoy writing any actual content and looks for something else to do instead.
 
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ustar

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Thing is, he comes up with these excuses to do something else a lot lately. First all this AI stuff, now this typescript conversion and also a lot of other small things. For me it seems like he constantly gets lost in these endeavors because he doesn't really enjoy writing any actual content and looks for something else to do instead.
Some kind of AI may be useful to world feel alive when the game will be ready, though I don't know much about it and I wonder how he plan to do it.
About TypeScript conversion... I didn't hear about it before, but it seems the mean to help find bugs and he fixed some thanks to this conversion from what I read. Of course for the user the programming language is not important, so it's the matter what is more convenient for programmer. If this change help him make better code, then good.
Looking at his schedule all this year is planned making framework so he does it. Content is planned for next year.
 

SSJ3Monkey

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There doesn't seem to be an image pack with the current build. I wonder if that's a mistake, or if they're now built into the game.
 

saviliana

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There doesn't seem to be an image pack with the current build. I wonder if that's a mistake, or if they're now built into the game.
The latest version had the image pack built-in. Because some player were too dumb for the custom resource loading system.
 

grapedog

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there a way to edit the save file? the online save editor can't seem to open it, and wordpad/notepad just show a bunch of gibberish.
 

ChipandChop

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The images aren't loading for me, despite the fact that they are in the resources folder like it says at the beginning of the game, does that happen to anybody else?
 

SSJ3Monkey

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The built-in resources don't seem to work. I get an error message telling me the game was unable to load necessary resource files.
 

Prokopije

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Well, it's not really mine estimation, but his:

And I believe in that, since most normal games are made within this time.
Well, that "plan" is what makes me think it's milking. I mean, 4 months of "planing", 9,5 months for framework... And all that for fancy text based game... There is also lot of normal games made for much shorter amount of time.
But one thing is for sure, there is not lot of (if there is any) porn games which are in developement for over a year and have no sex implemented. In it's current state, this is not porn game it's wardrobe simulator.
 

Korder

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Well, that "plan" is what makes me think it's milking. I mean, 4 months of "planing", 9,5 months for framework... And all that for fancy text based game... There is also lot of normal games made for much shorter amount of time.
But one thing is for sure, there is not lot of (if there is any) porn games which are in developement for over a year and have no sex implemented. In it's current state, this is not porn game it's wardrobe simulator.
He's been clear about the long developmental cycle since the very beginning, before he actually earned anything from his Patreon. Calling it "milking" comes off as entirely disingenuous. Moreover AC is completely transparently developed, meaning you can check the progress out yourself down to every last line of code. As for your comment about "all of this for a fancy text based game" I fail to see your point. Do you think it's somehow easier to make a game like this than one of the gazillion DAZ 3D visual novels out there? If so, you're dead wrong and clearly clueless when it comes to programming.

Now, it's entirely possible that the developer loses interest in the project before it's done (though nothing indicates that) considering how common that is in this genre, but if one can actually be bothered to look at the work that's going into this it's pretty obvious it's not a scam or anything of the sort.
 

ustar

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Well, that "plan" is what makes me think it's milking. I mean, 4 months of "planing", 9,5 months for framework... And all that for fancy text based game... There is also lot of normal games made for much shorter amount of time.
But one thing is for sure, there is not lot of (if there is any) porn games which are in developement for over a year and have no sex implemented. In it's current state, this is not porn game it's wardrobe simulator.
Yes, I kind of agree. In it's current state it's not porn game, even not a game, because is not finished. But as far there is activity, so I have faith in this. Why it's slow? Well he does not use any game maker tool to speed things and write everything from zero with aim to be complex game instead of just simple HTML clicker. Time necessary to make something depends on what should be final thing and this looks big... but time will show if it succeed. One thing is sure, this is different than most HTML games I have seen.
 

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As for your comment about "all of this for a fancy text based game" I fail to see your point. Do you think it's somehow easier to make a game like this than one of the gazillion DAZ 3D visual novels out there? If so, you're dead wrong and clearly clueless when it comes to programming.
Well, people who do that 3D kind of games, have also lot of rendering to do, which is very time consuming. It is not just let PC work your render and you can go grab a coffee or something. There's lot of work before ,seting scene, poses, characters etc. Besides thath, they also have programing to do. I guess there are different levels of hardness about programing required sometimes, but difference can't be that large.
As for milking part, I never said I'm sure about it, just it is looks like me on that( little more than before, after I saw "plan"). And also not in the way that it is complete fraud, but in way that Framework can be done in, let's say, 6 months instead of almost 10. So ,there is 6 months of work and 3,5 months of milking.
 

IvoryOwl

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I get it that a lot of people want to "live the dream" of making videogames; to work from home, to be their own bosses and have their own schedules. Patreon allows all of that.

But I'm not sure it's a good idea to start asking for funds or donations when you have almost nothing to show for besides a fancy UI and character creation. It has been a year since I last played this and if there was any progress it was minimal. If he wanted to make his own engine for this game then he should have waited until he had something a bit more consistent and playable before asking for money. Those funding AW are basically just glorified alpha-testers for his barely functional prototype.

I don't know if the guy is milking his followers or not but it kinda feels like it. I mean, he makes over 4k a month, that's a lot of money for a guy to just be fiddly-playing and nit-picking code all day long. He should have just stuck to a pre-built engine that matched his goals and while he was trucking along on that one, building this one on the side, then, once the latter felt more stable or complete, shift content to it. Right now he basically gets a bunch of money for shit all.
 

RustyXXL

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Well, just because you don't see the progress doesn't mean there is no progress.
Framework _is_ stuff that get's done.
Go take a look in the source code for the different versions.
Sorry, but the reason why he takes so long is because he is building a solid foundation for his house. If you don't like his house, or prefer smaller houses, no problem. Walk away and take your pick. There are hundreds of other houses to choose.
But the only thing you are demonstrating is, that you don't understand what's happening.
He shows no signs of abandoning this project, and was very upfront with his vision. I see absolutly no reason to bash the author.

I do partly understand your anxiety. There are plenty and plenty of people who bite a big chunk and then can't chew it, but to my knowledge the author hasn't shown signs for that yet. On the contrary, he has shown multiple times, that he has a vision and a plan.
 

rolalinii

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having an issue with loading a save
Starting your morning...
Error: <<if>>: bad conditional expression in <<if>> clause: setup.sleep.opt is undefined
Error: cannot execute macro <<goto>>: Story.has title parameter cannot be undefined

also can't seem to work or find the workplace
 

ustar

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having an issue with loading a save
Starting your morning...
Error: <<if>>: bad conditional expression in <<if>> clause: setup.sleep.opt is undefined
Error: cannot execute macro <<goto>>: Story.has title parameter cannot be undefined

also can't seem to work or find the workplace
I didn't try to save, because there is not much game. This seems one of the bugs in save system, which the developer has mentioned in his blog. This should be fixed in the latest release, because he was working on save system for v 0.14.
Unfortunately free public version has one month delay.
 

Avaron1974

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I think that futa can be slotted in the "worst friend ever" pigeon hole.

First she knows you were in love with her yet kept it hidden that she loved you on top of hiding her secret from her "supposed" best friend and then tells you the job she dragged you to her town to take is no longer available to you because she fucked up and made you a woman on top of throwing you out of her house as soon as possible.

Whatacunt.
 

Prokopije

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Sorry, but the reason why he takes so long is because he is building a solid foundation for his house.
It not always take years to make a solid foundation, but that's up to quality of construction workers, I guess. If you have some semi professional guys which don't know how to do things, than it could take years indeed.
 

ustar

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It not always take years to make a solid foundation, but that's up to quality of construction workers, I guess. If you have some semi professional guys which don't know how to do things, than it could take years indeed.
The thing about programming is that you need always learn something and you cannot predict all errors that lies ahead and when it happens it can be a nightmare to fix a bug - that's the worst part. But if you are so smart, then go ahead... try to program something. Even professional grade games are made within 2 or 3 years and they have a lot more funds, more programmers and more people that make graphics, sound, UI, design, marketing and other stuff.
 
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